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    DE - Wilmington, WhtFemale Skeletal UP8827, 25-70, long brown braid, Jun'11

    This seems solvable to me although there is no info on height and weight, but few women have a braid like that.

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/8827

    New Castle County, Delaware
    25 to 50 year old White Female
    Partial human skeletal remains found in area of thick underbrush and heavily wooded area near Colony Ct Apts off Lea Blvd in wooded area behind buildings, Wilmington, DE.
    Long, fairly thick, dark brown hair, arranged in a single, loose braid, about 13 inches in length.
    Blue men's shorts several feet away from remains. (may not be associated)

    Dental radiographs and photographs are available in Images section. Teeth #8, #9, and #5 were separate from the skull and placed in appropriate sockets for the examination and radiographs.
    Root tips present in area of # 12, and #14.
    Appearance and type of dental treatment suggests that the dental treatment was completed prior to 1960, before the common usage of dental composite material. (Comment from original dental report) Unable to determine if mandibular molars are 17 or 18 after consult with two other odontologists. Also could not determine if 31 or 32, therefore all are coded as / for default code in NCIC.
    DNA tests are not complete.

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    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1194/16/

    Sharon Redmon
    Orange County, Virginia
    29 year old white female
    LKA February 22, 1993
    Head hair:Brown midway down to back. Typically in braid

    She wouldn't have had dental work prior to 1960 though.

    She's missing from about 187 miles, 3 hrs 40 minutes away.
    Wilmington, DE, USA to Unionville, 2, VA, USA - Google Maps



    She is missing with her husband
    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/1195
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    Andrew Redmon and his wife, Sharon Kim Redmon, were last seen in their hometown of Unionville, Virginia on February 22, 1993. Sharon was employed at an automobile parts company in Fredericksburg, Virginia at the time. She phoned her employer and requested the day off from work. Andrew was employed as a truck driver with Panel Construction in Fredericksburg, Virginia at the time of his disappearance. Andrew and Sharon's young son was staying with Andrew's parents on the day the couple disappeared. Andrew's mother told authorities that he arrived at their home with some of their child's belongings and mentioned that he and Sharon were considering traveling to Florida in the near future. Investigators also determined that Andrew asked an acquaintance for money on the day he and Sharon disappeared. The couple's vehicle, a blue 1986 Oldsmobile Calais with Virginia license plates numbered HIQ-285, has never been recovered.

    Andrew's family contacted authorities after they were unable to locate the couple by early March 1993, approximately one week after they were last seen. Law enforcement officers searched the Redmons' residence and discovered shell casings from a small caliber handgun, as well as a broken table and other evidence of a struggle. DNA testing proved that blood stains located on the carpet were from Andrew.
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    Although the circumstances seem a little unlikely that facial construction is really very strong.

    I'm sure there were/are little backstreet dentists still using the 'old methods' after 1960.

    Have you submitted? I would if I were you. Dentals are available just not input yet so it would be an easy rule out (or not!).

    I also found this news release on Sharon and Andrew: http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=1755,1536708

    And to confuse matters further I also found a man and woman together (Sharon and Andrew?) in Virginia:
    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/6666
    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10776
    It says that the woman is african-american but given the circumstance and the huge amount of rules outs against the woman with no hit, it might be worth mentioning at the same time, just in case they have the race wrong. Age, place and timing is right. Then at least they can decide whether they want to look at this couple further or not.
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    The same person was listed as the Namus regional contact for both the MP and the UID so I sent an email to her.

    I also noticed that Andrew's Namus page says that DNA is not available but if they matched bloodstains to his DNA it must have been available at some point so I asked about locating those results and loading them into the database. Maybe Sharon's DNA is somewhere as well.

    The circumstances are a bit iffy, what with the struggle at home, but since there are indications that she/he/they might have had plans to leave home and the car is missing, maybe? It's across the state border on the way to Philadelphia or New York. Not Florida but if Andrew had anything to do with the struggle and the handgun casings at home he might not have been truthful about where he/they were going.

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    She has pretty good overall resemblance to the sketch and could have had dental work before 1960. Age LKA is younger than the age estimate but who knows when she might have died (I can't open the CP file, is there something about the circumstances of her disappearance?)

    She's hard to rule in or out with no DNA and no dentals.

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    I finally figured out how to load imagines.

    Robin Graham:
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/graham_robin.html
    Attached Images Attached Images

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
    She has pretty good overall resemblance to the sketch and could have had dental work before 1960. Age LKA is younger than the age estimate but who knows when she might have died (I can't open the CP file, is there something about the circumstances of her disappearance?)

    She's hard to rule in or out with no DNA and no dentals.
    Weird that you can't open the Charley Project page. Details of her disappearance:

    The day before her disappearance, she appeared troubled and told her mother she had something to tell her, but changed her mind. The next day, she vanished. She was last seen carrying a suitcase at the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Station and sent a telegraph that night saying, "Got married. Leaving town. Will not be back. Don't worry. Babe".

    One of the theories is that she ran away because of an illegitimate pregnancy.

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    I'm having problems with all the Charley pages at the moment. None of them open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1194/16/

    Sharon Redmon
    Orange County, Virginia
    29 year old white female
    LKA February 22, 1993
    Head hair:Brown midway down to back. Typically in braid

    She wouldn't have had dental work prior to 1960 though.

    She's missing from about 187 miles, 3 hrs 40 minutes away.
    Wilmington, DE, USA to Unionville, 2, VA, USA - Google Maps



    She is missing with her husband
    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/1195
    Orange
    Circumstances
    Andrew Redmon and his wife, Sharon Kim Redmon, were last seen in their hometown of Unionville, Virginia on February 22, 1993. Sharon was employed at an automobile parts company in Fredericksburg, Virginia at the time. She phoned her employer and requested the day off from work. Andrew was employed as a truck driver with Panel Construction in Fredericksburg, Virginia at the time of his disappearance. Andrew and Sharon's young son was staying with Andrew's parents on the day the couple disappeared. Andrew's mother told authorities that he arrived at their home with some of their child's belongings and mentioned that he and Sharon were considering traveling to Florida in the near future. Investigators also determined that Andrew asked an acquaintance for money on the day he and Sharon disappeared. The couple's vehicle, a blue 1986 Oldsmobile Calais with Virginia license plates numbered HIQ-285, has never been recovered.

    Andrew's family contacted authorities after they were unable to locate the couple by early March 1993, approximately one week after they were last seen. Law enforcement officers searched the Redmons' residence and discovered shell casings from a small caliber handgun, as well as a broken table and other evidence of a struggle. DNA testing proved that blood stains located on the carpet were from Andrew.
    Was she submitted as a possible match?
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    Re: the dental work -- I had non-composite fillings in the early 70's because they were quite a lot cheaper than the composites. Especially likely in a rural area, I would think.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    NT:

    I believe the braid in the hair on the Unidentified is a match to Sharon Redmon

    I submitted this to the Doe Network. It could be a few months before there is an answer but they will investigate and forward on to authorities.

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    I think Sharon Redmon is a very likely possibility, but I wanted to add that while the braid is distinctive, it wouldn't necessarily be mentioned in a missing persons report. Any woman with long hair might put her hair in a braid like that on occasion. When I had long hair, I'd sometimes braid it when I was doing yard work. So any missing woman who has very long hair might fit.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    Was she submitted as a possible match?
    I had emailed the Namus contact person about it and she replied that she'll contact the investigators.

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    I had amalgam fillings up until the early 90s, here in Mass, not rural area. I think the prior to '70 should be disregarded, as I remember all the fillings my friends were getting were also, like mine, the silver rather than composite, right up thru the eighties.

    Maybe the composites came in earlier in some areas, but.... I don't know if I'd exclude someone by year just based on type of filling alone.
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