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    Quote Originally Posted by kaki View Post
    I wonder about that...seems plausible....except George would question where Caylee was that morning. The amount of time though she was on the phone with Tony that night where was Caylee all night long?

    If she killed her the night before the suffocation search could have been for George and Cindy.
    Just like on the Larry King live show where George said " I never knew trash smelled that bad" he was ordered to follow the directions of the ringleader

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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJamesBond View Post
    The latest revelation regarding the timing of the "fool-proof suffication" (sic) calls to mind:

    "Watch your thoughts: They become your words.
    Watch your words: They become your actions.
    Watch your actions: They become your habits.
    Watch your habits: They become your character.
    Watch your character: It becomes your destiny." - various authors attributed

    As it relates to what happened to Caylee, this newest piece of the puzzle resolves a fundamental 'theories' issue for me, personally.

    For the sake of simplicity, I'm abandoning my usual approach of attempting to reconcile all the available information with a theory.

    IMHO...

    Caylee was murdered ~7:30PM 6/16, when Casey's 'plan A' and 'plan B' attempts to hand her over for the night to Cindy, then, Amy failed. The strongest evidence supporting this is that the unanswered 7:22PM call to Amy emphatically marked the end of Casey initiating communications. After this time Casey's behavior shifted dramatically to being elusive. The last call to Amy was a very clear turning point in Casey's observable behavior on a macro scale.

    Casey's actions, IMHO, weren't fueled by a well-developed plot to off Caylee. They were the result of accumulated frustrations in recent months, seemingly accelerating by the hour 6/15-6/16.

    There was a stark shift in events @ Hopespring 6/16 after 2PM, as evidenced by the computer searches. The 2:51PM 'fool-proof' search coincided with the time George, who appears to have been caring/entertaining Caylee the majority of the day whilst Casey was engrossed in all-things-Casey, left for work. The search reads, to me, like a 0-100mph launch over the edge. The immediate and purposeful choice of 'suffocation' suggests, to me, putting in words Casey's desire to silence an inconsolable Caylee immediately. ETA: That George called Casey @ 3PM at the house, then on her cell is very telling that some situation was underway when he left, IMHO. From phone records, George calling Casey was a very, very rare event. To me, George's behavior in placing those calls indicates something was seriously awry when he left the house and he wanted to get an update. It doesn't seem too far a stretch that Caylee would be upset @ his leaving, and he felt guilty/responsible and perhaps wanted to console her over the phone if he could. So, there are at least two independent, observable behaviors (Casey's abrupt 'fool-proof' search & George's rare calls) that suggest things were in a drastic downward spiral by ~2:30PM.

    Regardless of whether Casey harmed Caylee @ all before they left Hopespring that afternoon, the thought had become words, and the words materialized in the action of picking up the duct tape. Perhaps it was used temporarily to quieten Caylee, and then the roll went into the Pontiac as threat to Caylee; "Be quiet, or the tape goes back on!" For me, the latest computer search information seals this important means of the tape getting into the car that afternoon, to be used later. Otherwise, it seemed highly unlikely to me that it would randomly be in the car.

    Casey actively sought out Cindy (i.e. flurry of calls) and hovered in the area of Gentiva after 4PM to effect the quickest possible Caylee handoff-and-escape-to-Tony's scenario. Casey was 'dressed for work' to pull of the ruse until the 'plan A' handoff to Cindy had clearly failed.

    Dropping Caylee at Amy's became 'plan B', and Casey changed Caylee into her 'sleeping away from home' pajamas - the "Big Trouble..." shirt.

    When meager attempts to reach Amy failed, an infuriated Casey, perhaps fueled by a fitful Caylee, used the carseat straps to restrain Caylee while she first applied the tape to quieten her (again?), then, in rage, to suffocate her as her thoughts and actions from the afternoon computer search reached fruition.

    There wasn't any pre-agreed-to rendevous time for Casey and Tony that evening that we are aware of. The timing of her arrival at his apartment ~7:42PM was only paced by the 20 minutes it took for Casey to erupt, cinch the carseat straps, apply the tape, wait for Caylee to stop breathing and place her body into the trunk of the Pontiac.

    Steering clear of the details, there just isn't enough information to determine with any certainty if Caylee was sedated in any way. It seems to me very unlikely, though. Casey's efforts were to hand Caylee off right up until the time she snapped. Further, Casey doesn't strike me as being empathetic, nor possessing the forethought to sedate Caylee to 'soften' the end that came so abrubtly.
    BBM
    I agree with this.
    Well I agree with your whole post but the BBM part has me going back to March 2008 with the computer searches for chloroform, neck breaking, household weapons etc..that were conducted AFTER Cindy closed her checking account and Casey was cut off from her money supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2goldfish View Post
    was the blockbuster video a little after 6 that evening? because if I recall that correctly, caylee must have been killed before that as OCA was with TL and no caylee to be seen, and TL never saw her that day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzychick View Post
    regardless of the searches on the puter I think Caylee was killed the night of fathers day. Except for early on in the case no one seems to remember Cindy had that fight with Casey over stealing the money for her cell phone from Mr. P's nursing home account . I saw CIndy say she may have pushed Casey too far and that was an understatement IMO. I think the mom knows exactly why the child disappeared, she may have not known at the time what exactly happened but I think she had a pretty good idea. So the mom's testimony about that nice little evening looking at pics of Caylee was a cover up for what really happened which was a neck throttling feat in front of the brother. After that night the entire family went on a fact covering mission.. and the rest is history
    Cindy and Casey might have had a fight that night, but Lee wasn't there (IIRC he supposedly told Jesse that Cindy told him about the fight), and I doubt it was about the nursing home account money, because Cindy had discovered that weeks earlier.

    "It would seem to me that June 16, 2008 was the last time that the victim was viewed by her grandparents. It became quite evident that from the OS of the Defense that the 16th was a date of great importance and that a so called time line of activities dealing with CA, LA, GA and ICA on the 16th and what, if any, activities took place on the 15th, 16th and 17th of June on 24 hour cycles would have been, at least, of a minimal requirement of review. I take it at some point you had a computer expert look at that data?" HHJP, 6/21/11
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    My theory has never changed. She honestly probably meant to make it look like an accident and blame George. I think some of this stuff presented by Baez was actually Casey's plan.

    Most likely the drowning thing is a metaphor or telling us a grain of truth. Caylee was drowning...under water where she was dumped. If you break down things that Casey says she gives a way what happened in small doses of truth.

    But I'd say she gave her just the right amount of something to sleep, then taped her up and bagged her up while she was in her deep sleep. If she gave her too much it would also help when the body started rejecting it and Caylee possibly would start to vomit. Sorry so graphic...

    Only one thing is how did she get so lucky by moving the body around and not being seen? Except moving the body as if pretending it was trash. I don't think she buried her in the back yard sandbox. I think she was trying to figure out how to make it look like an accident and ran out of ideas. She didn't do a search for that ,s o was just improvising all of that.

    On a side note I tried looking up"Fool Proof Suffocation" just to see what comes up, and thought that would give more clues, but all that does come up is about the new evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBounds View Post
    My theory has never changed. She honestly probably meant to make it look like an accident and blame George. I think some of this stuff presented by Baez was actually Casey's plan.

    Most likely the drowning thing is a metaphor or telling us a grain of truth. Caylee was drowning...under water where she was dumped. If you break down things that Casey says she gives a way what happened in small doses of truth.

    But I'd say she gave her just the right amount of something to sleep, then taped her up and bagged her up while she was in her deep sleep. If she gave her too much it would also help when the body started rejecting it and Caylee possibly would start to vomit. Sorry so graphic...

    Only one thing is how did she get so lucky by moving the body around and not being seen? Except moving the body as if pretending it was trash. I don't think she buried her in the back yard sandbox. I think she was trying to figure out how to make it look like an accident and ran out of ideas. She didn't do a search for that ,s o was just improvising all of that.

    On a side note I tried looking up"Fool Proof Suffocation" just to see what comes up, and thought that would give more clues, but all that does come up is about the new evidence.
    RBBM ~ This is not the first time I've seen this problem with the current searches. IIRC, Google has an option to change to historical search dates; i.e., one day ago, one week ago or custom dates.

    So, if you're using Google, look around and see if they have any kind of "options" button and explore further from there.

    ETA: Please forgive me. I just tried this using the date June 16, 2008, and it didn't work. It still gave me current news; don't know why.

    But the moral of this story is that I should try my own ideas out before presuming to give grand advice. Sorry, JBounds!!!
    Last edited by ExpectingUnicorns; 11-29-2012 at 01:47 PM. Reason: ETA: The bolded.
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    I think she killed Caylee at home. I also think she drowned that baby in the backyard pool. The duct tape either went on before she drowned her, or right after death in an attempt to make it look like a kidnapping. Hence the birth of Zanny the Nanny. She bagged that baby up and threw her in the trunk. In approximately 2.6 days she backed into the garage, borrowed the shovel from the neighbor and tried to dig a hole, but realized it was too risky and too much work. I think she probably put Caylee’s body in the Turtle sandbox while she was going to dig, hence the hit by the dogs. She returned the shovel, put Caylee in the trunk once again and drove around the corner and dumped her. Period.

    I believe she killed Caylee and planned on making it look like George did it (which plays into the defense BS). I think some of those computer searches for neck breaking, etc were for George (not for self-defense against George as the defense wants people to believe, but how to kill George). I think she had a bigger plan, but Cindy got in her way when she called 911.

    The rest is history.

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    I have never believed that GA remembered the last time he saw Caylee and what clothing they were wearing. According to him it was just an ordinary morning, with their usual routines. I can't remember what anyone was wearing at our Thanksgiving dinner just a week ago, so for him to insist on that was sinister.
    IMO she killed her not long after he left for work, when she realized there was no way she would get to spend the night with Tony. I think she drowned her, planned to call it an accident, but then changed course after she thought about how to tell Cindy, that would seem believable..
    I think the duct tape was to prevent body fluid leakage after death, the source of the odor in her car.
    No baby sitter was the deciding factor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJamesBond View Post
    The latest revelation regarding the timing of the "fool-proof suffication" (sic) calls to mind:

    "Watch your thoughts: They become your words.
    Watch your words: They become your actions.
    Watch your actions: They become your habits.
    Watch your habits: They become your character.
    Watch your character: It becomes your destiny." - various authors attributed

    As it relates to what happened to Caylee, this newest piece of the puzzle resolves a fundamental 'theories' issue for me, personally.

    For the sake of simplicity, I'm abandoning my usual approach of attempting to reconcile all the available information with a theory.

    IMHO...

    Caylee was murdered ~7:30PM 6/16, when Casey's 'plan A' and 'plan B' attempts to hand her over for the night to Cindy, then, Amy failed. The strongest evidence supporting this is that the unanswered 7:22PM call to Amy emphatically marked the end of Casey initiating communications. After this time Casey's behavior shifted dramatically to being elusive. The last call to Amy was a very clear turning point in Casey's observable behavior on a macro scale.

    Casey's actions, IMHO, weren't fueled by a well-developed plot to off Caylee. They were the result of accumulated frustrations in recent months, seemingly accelerating by the hour 6/15-6/16.

    There was a stark shift in events @ Hopespring 6/16 after 2PM, as evidenced by the computer searches. The 2:51PM 'fool-proof' search coincided with the time George, who appears to have been caring/entertaining Caylee the majority of the day whilst Casey was engrossed in all-things-Casey, left for work. The search reads, to me, like a 0-100mph launch over the edge. The immediate and purposeful choice of 'suffocation' suggests, to me, putting in words Casey's desire to silence an inconsolable Caylee immediately. ETA: That George called Casey @ 3PM at the house, then on her cell is very telling that some situation was underway when he left, IMHO. From phone records, George calling Casey was a very, very rare event. To me, George's behavior in placing those calls indicates something was seriously awry when he left the house and he wanted to get an update. It doesn't seem too far a stretch that Caylee would be upset @ his leaving, and he felt guilty/responsible and perhaps wanted to console her over the phone if he could. So, there are at least two independent, observable behaviors (Casey's abrupt 'fool-proof' search & George's rare calls) that suggest things were in a drastic downward spiral by ~2:30PM.

    Regardless of whether Casey harmed Caylee @ all before they left Hopespring that afternoon, the thought had become words, and the words materialized in the action of picking up the duct tape. Perhaps it was used temporarily to quieten Caylee, and then the roll went into the Pontiac as threat to Caylee; "Be quiet, or the tape goes back on!" For me, the latest computer search information seals this important means of the tape getting into the car that afternoon, to be used later. Otherwise, it seemed highly unlikely to me that it would randomly be in the car.

    Casey actively sought out Cindy (i.e. flurry of calls) and hovered in the area of Gentiva after 4PM to effect the quickest possible Caylee handoff-and-escape-to-Tony's scenario. Casey was 'dressed for work' to pull of the ruse until the 'plan A' handoff to Cindy had clearly failed.

    Dropping Caylee at Amy's became 'plan B', and Casey changed Caylee into her 'sleeping away from home' pajamas - the "Big Trouble..." shirt.

    When meager attempts to reach Amy failed, an infuriated Casey, perhaps fueled by a fitful Caylee, used the carseat straps to restrain Caylee while she first applied the tape to quieten her (again?), then, in rage, to suffocate her as her thoughts and actions from the afternoon computer search reached fruition.

    There wasn't any pre-agreed-to rendevous time for Casey and Tony that evening that we are aware of. The timing of her arrival at his apartment ~7:42PM was only paced by the 20 minutes it took for Casey to erupt, cinch the carseat straps, apply the tape, wait for Caylee to stop breathing and place her body into the trunk of the Pontiac.

    Steering clear of the details, there just isn't enough information to determine with any certainty if Caylee was sedated in any way. It seems to me very unlikely, though. Casey's efforts were to hand Caylee off right up until the time she snapped. Further, Casey doesn't strike me as being empathetic, nor possessing the forethought to sedate Caylee to 'soften' the end that came so abrubtly.
    Well Bond, you haven't lost your touch. You can still put it all in perspective very succintly. Tough to read though.

    Re. the BBM: This is the part I really can't handle. I tell myself that she was sedated because it makes it a little easier for me to stomach. However, to be honest, the evidence tells me something different. Like, that 4th piece of duct tape. I truly believe it was used to bind her wrists. When we sleuthed the tear pattern of the duct tape, there was one piece that never matched up. I think it is highly possible...no probable.. that there was another (undiscovered) piece that Caylee removed herself, then Casey tore that long piece off and bound her wrists so she couldn't do it again. That 4th piece was different than all the others. It still haunts me. Common sense tells me if she were sedated, she wouldn't have done that. I wish somebody could prove to me there is no way that could have happened like that. I welcome to be proved wrong on that account. It would make me feel better not believing she was fighting for her life... just to take a breath. Not to mention, I would hope she wasn't aware that it was her own mother was murdering her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Intermezzo View Post
    BBM
    I agree with this.
    Well I agree with your whole post but the BBM part has me going back to March 2008 with the computer searches for chloroform, neck breaking, household weapons etc..that were conducted AFTER Cindy closed her checking account and Casey was cut off from her money supply.
    ITA. I think Casey had been wanting to rid herself of the responsiblity for a long time. We have evidence she was considering it as early as March. Like Bond pointed out with George's rare calls, something very disturbing was going on at that house the afternoon of June 16th. I think she snapped, and even though she had given it much consideration before, I believe it was an impulsive, quick final decision to do it on that day.

    The New York Craigslist employment ad for shot girls she viewed that same afternoon is not lost on me either. She wanted to go to NY with Tony. Caylee wasn't going to fit into that plan. She'd be damned before she signed over custody to George & Cindy. That was never going to happen, so....


    I hate her all over again. More than ever.
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    The New York Craigslist employment ad for shot girls she viewed that same afternoon is not lost on me either. She wanted to go to NY with Tony. Caylee wasn't going to fit into that plan. She'd be damned before she signed over custody to George & Cindy. That was never going to happen, so....


    I hate her all over again. More than ever.
    This.

    In my opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJamesBond View Post
    The latest revelation regarding the timing of the "fool-proof suffication" (sic) calls to mind:

    "Watch your thoughts: They become your words.
    Watch your words: They become your actions.
    Watch your actions: They become your habits.
    Watch your habits: They become your character.
    Watch your character: It becomes your destiny." - various authors attributed

    As it relates to what happened to Caylee, this newest piece of the puzzle resolves a fundamental 'theories' issue for me, personally.

    For the sake of simplicity, I'm abandoning my usual approach of attempting to reconcile all the available information with a theory.

    IMHO...

    Caylee was murdered ~7:30PM 6/16, when Casey's 'plan A' and 'plan B' attempts to hand her over for the night to Cindy, then, Amy failed. The strongest evidence supporting this is that the unanswered 7:22PM call to Amy emphatically marked the end of Casey initiating communications. After this time Casey's behavior shifted dramatically to being elusive. The last call to Amy was a very clear turning point in Casey's observable behavior on a macro scale.

    Casey's actions, IMHO, weren't fueled by a well-developed plot to off Caylee. They were the result of accumulated frustrations in recent months, seemingly accelerating by the hour 6/15-6/16.

    There was a stark shift in events @ Hopespring 6/16 after 2PM, as evidenced by the computer searches. The 2:51PM 'fool-proof' search coincided with the time George, who appears to have been caring/entertaining Caylee the majority of the day whilst Casey was engrossed in all-things-Casey, left for work. The search reads, to me, like a 0-100mph launch over the edge. The immediate and purposeful choice of 'suffocation' suggests, to me, putting in words Casey's desire to silence an inconsolable Caylee immediately. ETA: That George called Casey @ 3PM at the house, then on her cell is very telling that some situation was underway when he left, IMHO. From phone records, George calling Casey was a very, very rare event. To me, George's behavior in placing those calls indicates something was seriously awry when he left the house and he wanted to get an update. It doesn't seem too far a stretch that Caylee would be upset @ his leaving, and he felt guilty/responsible and perhaps wanted to console her over the phone if he could. So, there are at least two independent, observable behaviors (Casey's abrupt 'fool-proof' search & George's rare calls) that suggest things were in a drastic downward spiral by ~2:30PM.

    Regardless of whether Casey harmed Caylee @ all before they left Hopespring that afternoon, the thought had become words, and the words materialized in the action of picking up the duct tape. Perhaps it was used temporarily to quieten Caylee, and then the roll went into the Pontiac as threat to Caylee; "Be quiet, or the tape goes back on!" For me, the latest computer search information seals this important means of the tape getting into the car that afternoon, to be used later. Otherwise, it seemed highly unlikely to me that it would randomly be in the car.

    Casey actively sought out Cindy (i.e. flurry of calls) and hovered in the area of Gentiva after 4PM to effect the quickest possible Caylee handoff-and-escape-to-Tony's scenario. Casey was 'dressed for work' to pull of the ruse until the 'plan A' handoff to Cindy had clearly failed.

    Dropping Caylee at Amy's became 'plan B', and Casey changed Caylee into her 'sleeping away from home' pajamas - the "Big Trouble..." shirt.

    When meager attempts to reach Amy failed, an infuriated Casey, perhaps fueled by a fitful Caylee, used the carseat straps to restrain Caylee while she first applied the tape to quieten her (again?), then, in rage, to suffocate her as her thoughts and actions from the afternoon computer search reached fruition.

    There wasn't any pre-agreed-to rendevous time for Casey and Tony that evening that we are aware of. The timing of her arrival at his apartment ~7:42PM was only paced by the 20 minutes it took for Casey to erupt, cinch the carseat straps, apply the tape, wait for Caylee to stop breathing and place her body into the trunk of the Pontiac.

    Steering clear of the details, there just isn't enough information to determine with any certainty if Caylee was sedated in any way. It seems to me very unlikely, though. Casey's efforts were to hand Caylee off right up until the time she snapped. Further, Casey doesn't strike me as being empathetic, nor possessing the forethought to sedate Caylee to 'soften' the end that came so abrubtly.
    I don't recall the duct tape being in the pontiac. What am I missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcrum12 View Post
    I don't recall the duct tape being in the pontiac. What am I missing?
    I think that BJB's mentioning of the tape being in the car is part of a hypothetical scenario and not something that was evidence in this case. JMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJamesBond View Post
    ...
    For the sake of simplicity, I'm abandoning my usual approach of attempting to reconcile all the available information with a theory.

    IMHO...

    Caylee was murdered ~7:30PM 6/16...ETA: That George called Casey @ 3PM at the house, then on her cell is very telling that some situation was underway when he left, IMHO. From phone records, George calling Casey was a very, very rare event. To me, George's behavior in placing those calls indicates something was seriously awry when he left the house
    I agree, he rarely called her before this date but called her from this point on.
    ...and then the roll went into the Pontiac as threat to Caylee; "Be quiet, or the tape goes back on!" For me, the latest computer search information seals this important means of the tape getting into the car that afternoon, to be used later. Otherwise, it seemed highly unlikely to me that it would randomly be in the car.
    I don't believe there was ever any evidence presented to support the Henkle duct tape was ever in the car. There was evidence that a roll was in George Anthony's possession after June 16 though. Are you saying she took the tape back to the house and gave it to George or put it back in the garage for him to use later?
    Dropping Caylee at Amy's became 'plan B', and Casey changed Caylee into her 'sleeping away from home' pajamas - the "Big Trouble..." shirt.
    Caylee had pjs and I highly doubt a someone like Casey would choose shorts that are infant size she outgrew. Also, it was afternoon, hours before her bedtime.

    The timing of her arrival at his apartment ~7:42PM
    The cell pings put her at or very near Tony's by 5:57 at the latest.

    Steering clear of the details
    I'm sure you care a lot about the details so thought I'd share these. Assuming there is a sliver of truth in the lies Casey told, perhaps George began calling her that day for another reason than what you suggest. But, if that were true, he'd surely remember that day clearly and wouldn't have sworn under oath that he saw her happy with her mom when they left that day at 12:50. To never call his daughter then call her that day and more calls later is enough to make that day stand out in his mind.

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    Ok so here's how I think it all went. It all started with the big fight the night before. Cindy I believe gave her an ultimatum. The next day starts per usual. Casey focus is on Casey and thinking about good time, hence the uploads of "her" club the researching for the shot girls etc. The phone calls and texts to friends. As the day wears on her situation gets more desparate so she talks with friends about moving out and needing places to stay. She pretends to leave for her fake job with Caylee and George watches her leave. She waits for him to leave for work and comes back to the house. I think the calls to and from her Dad are about keeping tabs on his whereabouts. He can't come back home and catch her there. Now she's watching Caylee alone and being reminded all the time about Cindy and her fight. She's very resentful of Caylee. Casey does what she always does when she's that angry. She fantasizes about killing her daughter. Then she starts up the google searches. I think she's always had this kind of back up plan about what she'd do. Now the situation is escalating. So around this time she talks with Jesse G who hears Caylee in the background but Casey kinda snaps and decides to go ahead with it. So I believe she gives Caylee zanax to make her sleepy. (remember AD can give her Zanax whenever she wants it) Casey gets herself packed up for the week or so she's staying with Tony and doesn't pack for Caylee. She decides on duct tape and more Xanax. She doesn't have scissors so she grabs knife from the kitchen. (there was a knife found with the remains with white fibers attached which I believe are duct tape fibers) She then starts calling her Mom as she's leaving the house. This I think is her giving Cindy one last opportunity to maintain status quo and that would be taking Caylee for the night.. so Casey is free to do as she wants.. Remember this is all fantasy until she actually does the murder. Caylee is still useful to her alive as a pawn/leverage. Casey gets ignored, she's still livid from last night, her friends won't give her a place to stay and her Mom is on to her games ie stealing from her Grandparents. Casey cuts communication at that point and drives to a remote location. It's dark and rainy and she thinks she won't be seen. I think the critical time between 4:30-6:00 when her phone is off when there's no way to track her she overdoses Caylee on Xanax and applies the duct tape. She does all this while in the car using the knife to cut the three long pieces and places her in the trunk where Caylee assumes the fetal position. Casey leaves her there and is free to celebrate with her boyfriend. And that all begins the 31 days. Everything else is cover up, the change of Caylees clothes, the deleted sections of the pc, the zenida story the myspace pages and secret pass words all cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpectingUnicorns View Post
    RBBM ~ This is not the first time I've seen this problem with the current searches. IIRC, Google has an option to change to historical search dates; i.e., one day ago, one week ago or custom dates.

    So, if you're using Google, look around and see if they have any kind of "options" button and explore further from there.

    ETA: Please forgive me. I just tried this using the date June 16, 2008, and it didn't work. It still gave me current news; don't know why.

    But the moral of this story is that I should try my own ideas out before presuming to give grand advice. Sorry, JBounds!!!
    There somehow has to be a way. I really think it could give us something to go on if we could see what came up and give us some insights. I even copied&pasted from the excel to my browser and it still gave me current news.
    It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.

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