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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenpalm View Post
    We took our kids on a Carnival Cruise once and we left them in the kids club ONE evening so we could have a date night! The rest of the evenings they ate in the dining room with us! That includes formal night! We got them dress-up clothes, and brought them to dinner with us an used the opportunity to expect good table manners from them!

    We didn't leave them there in the kids' club.

    On the other hand we are going to a wedding in a few weeks. We are leaving them with my dad for the whole weekend. They'll have a great weekend with grandpa and we'll enjoy grown-up time.

    If we take a family vacation it is our expectation that we'll spend time with the children! It's hard for me to understand why you'd bother to go to the expense of bringing them with you if you didn't want to be with them. Although, I haven't done a price comparison perhaps it was actually less expensive for the McCann's to get to PDL with all 5 of them than it would have been to hire a nanny for a week at home? Airline tickets are expensive!!
    Good post I agree entirely.

    I can NEVER understand why if you want a break from it all you would take kids with you.

    The McCanns were both doctors, Gerry a heart specialist, they would work hard and long hours and need to wind down without a doubt. Also Mrs McCann was frazzled with caring for 3 young children under 3 years old.

    I believe they did have a NANNY. Its out there somewhere she came from Canada originally I believe.

    Also the McCanns had parents who I am sure could have looked after the children for a week.

    To hire a nanny would not have been expensive and one has to remember the salary these two people would have been on we are talking about a LOT OF MONEY.

    They could have even took a nanny with them on holiday.

    I dont understand this holiday. It was not for family at all it seemed to be more for GM as he seemed to be doing the most activity.

    Which to be fair he worked hard all year so I dont begrudge him that, just find the whole scenario totally odd.

    Oh well........

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    Quote Originally Posted by SapphireSteel View Post
    This is true, but of the group, the McCann children were the only ones who spent every available minute in the crèche.

    Their parents took them for an ice cream, once.

    This in a seaside resort on a "family holiday".

    Maybe the children preferred to play with other children, involved in different activities, instead being bored with their parents and listening to their talks?

    My son would definitely prefer being with other children!

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    JMO, I think that most two year olds are unlikely to prefer the stimulating company of strangers to spending time with the family. Children of that age don't necessarily even play that well with others yet, it may be that they play alongside others who have interesting toys but they may not have the social skills to engage in a lot of cooperative play with new children. It's different when they get older, and of course if it's a lonely child it may be a different story but there were three of them who could keep company to each other. It can be a little stressful for a child in a creche with lots of strangers.

    I don't really believe that two- and three year olds think in terms of being bored by listening to their parents talk. If they're not interested they simply don't listen, they find something to play with or interrupt with something that interests them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SapphireSteel View Post
    I believe the McCanns are involved in their daughter's death and/or disappearance.

    The evidence is just too compelling to think otherwise, in my view.

    Even feeling as I do, I watched a video of them speaking and I believed them...or should I say, I experienced the overwhelming desire to believe them.

    I get it, I really do.

    I understand why people are so strongly supportive of them. They are very, very credible. You want so badly to believe them.

    They don't skip a beat (unless you look very closely). They are the young and competent professional you want to examine you next time you feel a lump or something. You

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    Might they be innocent as claimed?

    Yes, they might. They certainly put on a fantastic display of it. Maybe they even believe it now. Maybe they have bargained so much guilt away as being in the interests of their remaining children that what they did seems completely justified and they even FEEL innocent.



    Despite what I want to believe, what I DID believe for that few minutes of video, my logical, straight-line thinking brain will just not allow it. Every shred of common sense and intelligence I have has tells me they are guilty as sin...but I can empathise from where other's faith comes from. This thread isn't for arguing the details of the case, just for me to say - I get it.

    Ironically, it's this very credibility I believe the McCanns have used to pull the wool over everyone's eyes, including those politicians who now just want the whole thing to go away. They believed them too. There are a lot of people now trying to distance themselves from the whole saga.

    It's just almost unbelievable. But then truth often is stranger than fiction.

    As usual, this is my opinion only.

    Exactly, your opinion! IMO far from reality..
    Luckily Scotland Yard is working on the case now, and they have expertise, resources and the realistic facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haden View Post
    Exactly, your opinion! IMO far from reality..
    Luckily Scotland Yard is working on the case now, and they have expertise, resources and the realistic facts.
    There are a lot of cases Scotland Yard could do with resolving in this country. As to the facts, they are using all the files from the PJ not their own information.

    Basically going over old ground....as per Smiths sighting, and Jane Tanners which was DISMISSED by the PJ many moons ago....sigh.

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