Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #40

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Gerard Bayden-Clay has been arrested and charged with the murder of Allison Bayden-Clay


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Aha - FIRST (edited in by request ;)

Just a repeat post, as I posted this just as the previous thread was being closed, so it may have been missed:


Dr Watson a question for you would drugs disperse through a person if administered after death - wouldn't be ingested but as they broke down would they be present in the tissues and organs they were close to?

Short answer - no. If administered after death, (or even very shortly before death) especially in tablet form, those tablets would just be sitting in the stomach. They would become very mushy and may even dissolve completely, depending on what was already in the stomach or if the stomach was empty. But virtually none would be absorbed, and certainly not circulated.

The levels obtained by the pathologist were from blood taken from the liver.

There is a principle in physiology called "first pass" - blood from the bowel passes through the liver FIRST (via the portal vein) before getting into the general circulation, and it would not be unexpected that levels of a drug would be higher in the liver than anywhere else.

And as I posted several pages back, before the bit came out in yesterday's court hearing about the difficulty in doing the toxicity screen tests and the fact that they had to use blood from the liver, the levels in the general circulation would be almost impossible to measure after 11 days.

I don't believe for one minute that she took an overdose of Zoloft, or that it would have killed her. She may have been forced to swallow some (chipped tooth, bruising on chest wall, etc) to make her drowsy, but none of this would suggest suicide to me.

If there were no residual tablets of Zoloft in Allison's stomach, then they would have been taken or administered at least 15-20 minutes before death.
 
Haven't been on here for ages, so hello to everyone. I was appalled by the article in todays "Courier Mail" reporting that the policemen who went to the Baden-Clay house at 8.45am on the morning of disappearance reported that had told the children "Mummy went for a walk, she probably fallen in a hole and won't be back," and with that news the happy cherubs skipped off to school.

You think your wife has died, you tell your children as much and then expect them to attend school? Incredible nerve!!
 
Unreal. "fallen down a hole and won't be back'. I can just see the kids taking that well. :(
 
I use the same type of razor - a Gillette Mach III - and the only way you could cut yourself with one of those would be to slide it sideways or lop the top off a spot! They're incredibly safe - even safer when blunt...

Those are scratch marks, pure and simple.

And good for Constable Ash for being suspicious - excellent work.

"Fell down a hole and won't be back"?? Kidding, right? And OW knew this? Uh oh...
 
Constable Ash said he first saw a woman he now knows to be Baden-Clay's sister Olivia Walton walk three children down the stairs and put them in a car.

I said all along OW the girls were home and OW took them to school. I remember when I said it world war 3 nearly broke out in here.

A lot of the theories, rumours and inside info seem to be true. GBC couldnt lie straight in bed!!
 
Haven't been on here for ages, so hello to everyone. I was appalled by the article in todays "Courier Mail" reporting that the policemen who went to the Baden-Clay house at 8.45am on the morning of disappearance reported that had told the children "Mummy went for a walk, she probably fallen in a hole and won't be back," and with that news the happy cherubs skipped off to school.

You think your wife has died, you tell your children as much and then expect them to attend school? Incredible nerve!!

I had to re-read that line (from news) "Mummy went for a walk, she probably fallen in a hole and won't be back," the callousness of those words left me speechless - what sort of monster would say that to a child LET ALONE his own children !!


All MOO.
 
Creep.....He actually thinks,perhaps thought, he would get away with this. Those scratches are damming. Yet he still thought police would be too stupid to suspect him.
He murders her then wants to disgrace her name. So mad. MOO
 
Come on Doc, be immature for once.
Edit and write "FIRST" in your top post : )
 
I had to re-read that line (from news) "Mummy went for a walk, she probably fallen in a hole and won't be back," the callousness of those words left me speechless - what sort of monster would say that to a child LET ALONE his own children !!


All MOO.
http://www.news.com.au
Court documents show police focus on "blunt razor" cuts on Gerard Baden-Clay's face
The main facial injuries have all the hallmarks of fingernail scratches... which appeared to have been caused "between about 6 and about 24 hours earlier" ... and highly unlikely after 6.15am," in a report by senior Queensland Health forensic medical officer, Dr. Robert Hoskins.
 
This case is big news in Nth Qld - I bought the last Courier Mail off the shelf at my local store this morning.
The quote: "Mummy probably fell down a hole and won't be back" I have no words to describe this comment said to those children. How could a Father do this and how can his family be covering up for him?
 
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