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    Sandy Hook shooting victim Anne Marie Murphy was 'a light in the darkness'

    Newsday reported that Murphy's 86-year-old parents were told by a "first-responder" that she died a hero, shielding her students from the shooter.

    Murphy, 52, of Sandy Hook, was reportedly a special education teacher. Her profession prompted many on Twitter to urge donations to Autism foundations in her memory.

    Read more: http://www.sbsun.com/ci_22200152#ixzz2FBDvgtOS

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootballMom View Post
    Would you mind posting that link when you find it? I thought her autopsy would not be completed until tomorrow.
    Another unconfirmed report, imo. You are correct. Her autopsy is tomorrow and so is the shooter's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    Has it been confirmed that he was going to purchase his own weapon? IMO, that is just another unconfirmed report.

    There has been a lot of misinformation in this case. LE is doing a good job at keeping the investigation close to their vests.

    Just a few examples:

    The brother was the initial person named as the shooter.

    Mom was a teacher at the school.

    Mom was shot at the school.

    Shooter shot through window.

    Shooter had a confrontation days before the shooting.

    Shooter attempted to purchase a weapon.

    There are probably others but those off the the top of my head. The first 3 turned out to be incorrect.
    BBM In fact at today's presser Vance even refused to confirm the name of the killer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothOperator View Post
    I apologize for not being able to stay caught up here in this thread..so please forgive if this issue has already been discussed ad nauseum and I've missed it altogether ..

    As several of my posts have noted I've been quite floored at what a contradictory nature that mom's words and actions have been regarding her IMO obvious full awareness of the severity of her son's mental instability, yet as we know was an avid gun collector that chose to keep such a large arsenal of both artillery/ammo in the home in which she and her son lived..

    So, what if mom did possibly believe she had this issue well under control by having ALL OF THE GUNS AS WELL AS ALL OF THE AMMO very secured and locked up to where she knew her son was completely unable to access any of the guns or ammo without her knowledge and allowing him to do so??

    IMO while I personally still find that situation too close for comfort ..I can see how one would possibly believe that they were taking all precautions and necessary steps to keep the son safe from harming himself or others with any of the guns she collected and kept securely locked up..

    Because in now knowing that the son actually had full intentions and planned to go and purchase the guns on his own without mom's knowledge..and followed through in his attempts at procuring guns on his own and was unsuccessful in doing so.. this IMO makes me believe that its possible mom did have some sort of security measure in plLace that would have kept him from just simply being able to have access to the guns whenever he wanted. IMO I feel like if that were the case that he would have never even made the attempt to purchase guns on his own IF HE'D ACTUALLY HAD ACCESS TO MOM'S GUNS TO USE AT HIS DISPOSAL...

    IMO its only when he was unsuccessful in his attempts at purchasing gun(s) that he had to go about this differently, as in finding a way around getting into the likely locked up guns/ammo of his mothers...I find it possible that this was done via force and could have been achieved in a couple different ways..

    a) IMO I find it POSSIBLE that maybe mom had A GUN(as in one single handgun that she maybe kept NOT LOCKED UP for personal protection in the sense it was just she and her son living there alone).. for that reason I find it plausible that there was possibly one gun available and that her son used this gun to kill her thereby his then being able to gain access to the entire arsenal of locked up guns/ammo..

    or..

    b) I can also see it possible that maybe she didn't have ANY OF THE GUNS OUT, BUT RATHER KEPT THEM ALL SAFE UNDER LOCK/KEY..(TBH I find this less likely as IMO i truly believe she likely had a single gun she kept out for her and her son's personal safety).. but if they were all locked up its possible he hit her over the head with any object available so as to gain access to the locked guns and then after having gained access with plans to then head to the school maybe he knew he had zero choice but to kill her if he was going to be able to pull off his plan at the elementary school(ie.as in an alive mom could easily come to and call for help thereby thwarting his entire plan)

    I honestly believe it to quite likely be that option (a) IMO is the more likely of the two to be similar to what happened..and that mom actually did have the whole large collection of handguns, rifles, shotguns, etc, along with all the ammo UNDER LOCK AND KEY UNACCESSABLE TO HER SON WITHOUT HER HAVING KNOWLEDGE OR ALLOWING HIM TO DO SO..but that just as many of us women who either are divorced or whose hubbys work out of town, or night shift..how many of us have a gun(handgun, shotgun, whatever youre most comfortable with) that you DO NOT KEEP LOCKED IN THE GUN SAFE, BUT OUT OF THE SAFE AVAILABLE TO USE FOR PROTECTING YOURSELF AND YOUR CHILDREN IF SOMEONE WERE TO BREAK IN..

    I find it plausible that now that we know that mom DID NOT EVER EVEN WORK AT THE SCHOOL,,IMO I find it possible that the only reason she was killed was because the SON FELT HE HAD TO KILL HER ONCE HE'D FAILED AT BEING ABLE TO HIMSELF PURCHASE GUNS FOR HIS RAMPAGE..

    DUE TO THAT FAILED ATTEMPT HE HAD TO GAIN ACCESS TO HIS MOM'S GUN COLLECTION that I now find possible that his mom DID IN FACT HAVE THE GUNS/AMMO UNDER LOCK AND KEY(except for possibly keeping one gun out of the safe to use for protection in case of a break in)..and possibly that's what he shot mom with, its why he felt he had to kill his mom in order to gain access to the guns...

    sorry so long...and sorry if already has been discussed ad nauseum..its just a possibility at this point I do find to be plausible...jmo.
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    I get tired of just hearing him referred to as the "shooter". He is a flat out killer. A baby killer, at that.

    Edited to add: This post is not directed at anyone in particular. It landed at random. I have a friend who is nicknamed "Shooter" and has been called that since birth. So I hate that his name is being used to describe such an evil person. Sorry if anyone thought I was criticizing their terminology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flipflop View Post
    Sandy Hook shooting victim Anne Marie Murphy was 'a light in the darkness'

    Newsday reported that Murphy's 86-year-old parents were told by a "first-responder" that she died a hero, shielding her students from the shooter.

    Murphy, 52, of Sandy Hook, was reportedly a special education teacher. Her profession prompted many on Twitter to urge donations to Autism foundations in her memory.

    Read more: http://www.sbsun.com/ci_22200152#ixzz2FBDvgtOS
    This is interesting to me. Could she have taught a young Adam Lanza? From what I understand, Nancy moved from NH to Conn. in 1998. Adam was only 6-years-old. If she was a special education teacher, she may very well have. Truly heartbreaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief View Post
    Have we gotten exactly what years this man attended the local schools? Could Mary have had anything to do with the decisions the school was making in his interest?
    Could she have been a target?
    Mary started at Sandy Hook in 1994.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeymom View Post
    Having worked in the mental health field, the main concern was that patients would hurt themselves,not others.I'm alittle surprised based on Adam's profile that she wasn't worried about him being suicidal. It is very rare that someone is homicidal,and usually there is violent indicators before that. I would guess Nancy was responsable with her guns,and like most of us parents,would never dream that our children would be capable of hurting someone.
    Was it wise,as you said NO,looking back,but if he had no violent tendancies before it may not have occured to her that just because he had mental issues that he was dangerous.
    I have to wonder if Adam Lanza had any violent tendencies prior to the massacre, let alone before it happened.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    This is interesting to me. Could she have taught a young Adam Lanza? From what I understand, Nancy moved from NH to Conn. in 1998. Adam was only 6-years-old. If she was a special education teacher, she may very well have. Truly heartbreaking.
    I was thinking the same thing....a special ed teacher and a psychologist, both gunned down, both who were employed at the school during the years that Adam would have attended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeymom View Post
    Having worked in the mental health field, the main concern was that patients would hurt themselves,not others.I'm alittle surprised based on Adam's profile that she wasn't worried about him being suicidal. It is very rare that someone is homicidal,and usually there is violent indicators before that. I would guess Nancy was responsable with her guns,and like most of us parents,would never dream that our children would be capable of hurting someone.
    Was it wise,as you said NO,looking back,but if he had no violent tendancies before it may not have occured to her that just because he had mental issues that he was dangerous.
    I really don't want to criticise Nancy, I don't know her, or her life and she is a complete victim. I just think there were a few red flags around her son which are visible now in hindsight (the social isolation combined with playing violent video games for instance) which don't combine well with gun ownership. As you yourself say that the main concern is that patients would hurt themselves .. an even more obvious reason not to keep guns in the home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampMama View Post
    I get tired of just hearing him referred to as the "shooter". He is a flat out killer. A baby killer, at that.
    I assume, perhaps wrongly, that this was directed at me. I meant nothing by it. Still, I've corrected my wording.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzyBlanche View Post
    BBM In fact at today's presser Vance even refused to confirm the name of the shooter.
    Exactly. The media is desperate. They have to report something so they go to their sources but as we've come to realize, their sources are not always the most reliable especially in this case.

    As for the shooter and the mom, we can assume the information is correct because the family has made a statement but LE has yet to confirm the shooter and "the female" at the residence. IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    This is interesting to me. Could she have taught a young Adam Lanza? From what I understand, Nancy moved from NH to Conn. in 1998. Adam was only 6-years-old. If she was a special education teacher, she may very well have. Truly heartbreaking.
    yes did she discover he had problems?
    Did he blame her.......another target?
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    I thought I would share this with everyone to give us all a little inspitation. Two weeks ago tonight, 2 of my son's classmates were killed in a car accident. It was all over the news,even national and very tragic for our community. The mother of one of the boys is blogging to help her through. Todays blog she shares some personal things, you can skip through if you want,but she describes a vision she had in relation to the poor children of Sandy Hook. I don't know this woman personally,but I know from other people she is a great woman of faith,and I pray her vision and the message she was given is real and can provide comfort to us all.

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    Just saw AL mother's picture on TV.........young looking and very pretty......
    may she rest in peace
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    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........

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