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  1. #721
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kali&89 View Post
    Yes, that's what Im saying... the SCPD have contradicted themselves...They say there is no connection between Shannons case and the LISK murders but then they say the release off her 911 tape would frustrate and compromise their investigation in to the LISK case...do how could that be unless her murder is somehow connected to the LISK case...I posted the exact statement they made in the Shannon Gilbert possible victim thread
    Yup I'm feeling you kali89

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous81 View Post
    Not sure where to post this so apologies if it's not the right thread. Does anyone know how far the old OBI is from where the victims were found? It was open until 2000, torn down in 2003 and was/is a popular place to hangout. I believe there are still Sunday morning car club meet ups there.
    My understanding is that it is very close. But I'm not from the area nor have I been . You should do some digging on the obi which was not an inn but a bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleChris View Post
    Yes. The cars still meet up on Sunday mornings.
    The main Coffee and Cars group moves over to Captree until late April, but it is possible cars still show up there. There are usually a couple of coffee trucks at the OBI site. I was there last in September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteryattic View Post
    My understanding is that it is very close. But I'm not from the area nor have I been . You should do some digging on the obi which was not an inn but a bar.
    The OBI lot is about 600 or 700 feet west of the Brewer house.

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    Just a random thought but what if he is a "collector" type of SK? Either keeping them alive possibly drugged/sedated to be easier to handle either one at a time or is working with a partner or submissive type who does what he tells them to do. From all the research I've been doing it seems he is holding onto the victims whether already deceased or possibly incapacitated until he is finished with them. I find it odd that in certain pieces of evidence there is NO trace of anything left behind but in others, it is not as clean in that nothing is left behind like the Burlap bags. In the documentary something sticks in my mind when Rachel and Josh talk to one of the Serial Killers incarcerated when he says it is an "organization" meaning that there are or could be MORE than One, more than Partners that are ultimately Kidnapping these victims, raping, possibly holding them and then killing them. Perhaps the authorities need to do more in-depth interviews with the Prisoners who are now giving more information that before. Just opinion here but I have been following this case closely because it nags at me that no one has been caught for the amount of time all these Murders have been done in such a broad area. My heart and prayers are will all the families that have been affected by the loss of their loved ones and none of these victims deserved to die in such Inhumane and Evil ways. Praying the one or ones responsible are caught and brought to justice.

  6. #726
    Just thinking out loud... Long haul trucker, refridgerated truck, picks up seafood out of MA (New Bedford), delivers to restaurant on LI. Keeps bodies in the truck frozen, and proceeds to cut them like a butcher. Changes MO when he loses job with refridgerated truck.

  7. #727
    I don't know where else to put this, it's a bit of a rant, but I feel like something needs to be done to protect sex workers in this country. I watched a documentary yesterday that featured a sex worker that was rigidly controlled by a pimp. She was arrested 50 times and not once did someone ask her if she was being forced to sell herself by someone else (i.e. a pimp, human trafficking, etc.)

    I know there are many women that choose this lifestyle for the money or to support a habit, but many don't. Their lives and family's lives are threatened, etc. It seems incomprehensible that there is not a common protocol to follow when a sex worker is arrested that could ascertain whether or not they chose this lifestyle or they just happen to be caught up in it. Maybe they want out? Maybe they are working against their will? It is as if our justice system sees them as lesser people just because of what they are doing. They are HUMAN BEINGS!!! Many have been physically abused, brainwashed, mentally abused, drugged, etc. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I am just outraged at how our society treats this marginalized sect of women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpio_sleuth View Post
    I don't know where else to put this, it's a bit of a rant, but I feel like something needs to be done to protect sex workers in this country. I watched a documentary yesterday that featured a sex worker that was rigidly controlled by a pimp. She was arrested 50 times and not once did someone ask her if she was being forced to sell herself by someone else (i.e. a pimp, human trafficking, etc.)

    I know there are many women that choose this lifestyle for the money or to support a habit, but many don't. Their lives and family's lives are threatened, etc. It seems incomprehensible that there is not a common protocol to follow when a sex worker is arrested that could ascertain whether or not they chose this lifestyle or they just happen to be caught up in it. Maybe they want out? Maybe they are working against their will? It is as if our justice system sees them as lesser people just because of what they are doing. They are HUMAN BEINGS!!! Many have been physically abused, brainwashed, mentally abused, drugged, etc. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I am just outraged at how our society treats this marginalized sect of women.
    Well said

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    Interesting that the authorities went after this guy recently, but nothing ever materialized.

    http://www.houstonpress.com/news/jud...rs-ceo-8954073

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpio_sleuth View Post
    I don't know where else to put this, it's a bit of a rant, but I feel like something needs to be done to protect sex workers in this country. I watched a documentary yesterday that featured a sex worker that was rigidly controlled by a pimp. She was arrested 50 times and not once did someone ask her if she was being forced to sell herself by someone else (i.e. a pimp, human trafficking, etc.)

    I know there are many women that choose this lifestyle for the money or to support a habit, but many don't. Their lives and family's lives are threatened, etc. It seems incomprehensible that there is not a common protocol to follow when a sex worker is arrested that could ascertain whether or not they chose this lifestyle or they just happen to be caught up in it. Maybe they want out? Maybe they are working against their will? It is as if our justice system sees them as lesser people just because of what they are doing. They are HUMAN BEINGS!!! Many have been physically abused, brainwashed, mentally abused, drugged, etc. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I am just outraged at how our society treats this marginalized sect of women.
    Legalize it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeeandacig View Post
    Just thinking out loud... Long haul trucker, refridgerated truck, picks up seafood out of MA (New Bedford), delivers to restaurant on LI. Keeps bodies in the truck frozen, and proceeds to cut them like a butcher. Changes MO when he loses job with refridgerated truck.
    That theory is as good as the others. Or goes from refrigerated truck to regular trailor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpio_sleuth View Post
    I don't know where else to put this, it's a bit of a rant, but I feel like something needs to be done to protect sex workers in this country. I watched a documentary yesterday that featured a sex worker that was rigidly controlled by a pimp. She was arrested 50 times and not once did someone ask her if she was being forced to sell herself by someone else (i.e. a pimp, human trafficking, etc.)

    I know there are many women that choose this lifestyle for the money or to support a habit, but many don't. Their lives and family's lives are threatened, etc. It seems incomprehensible that there is not a common protocol to follow when a sex worker is arrested that could ascertain whether or not they chose this lifestyle or they just happen to be caught up in it. Maybe they want out? Maybe they are working against their will? It is as if our justice system sees them as lesser people just because of what they are doing. They are HUMAN BEINGS!!! Many have been physically abused, brainwashed, mentally abused, drugged, etc. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I am just outraged at how our society treats this marginalized sect of women.
    A young teen was forced into prostitution on her way to and from school everyday. Pimp said he would kill her family if she told anyone. Pimp talked about her sister joining them. She told her teacher what was going on. LE relocated the family. Then the arrest were made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddalena1 View Post
    Legalize it!

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    Legalize it??? I strongly disagree. Legalization will not change the mindset of a predator. It would only make it easier for the predator to operate.

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    Leanne has mentioned the possible connection to the New Bedford homicides -- is there anything public about why?


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    Quote Originally Posted by deedee21 View Post
    Legalize it??? I strongly disagree. Legalization will not change the mindset of a predator. It would only make it easier for the predator to operate.
    I think she meant to protect the girls from pimps. If it were legal pimps wouldn't have jobs and wouldn't be killing, beating the crap out of and forcing girls into prostitution.

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