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    Quote Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes View Post
    Nancy Grace has been covering a trial that began on Wednesday, but I encourage folks here to contact her via "On the Radar". If her staff notice that there is enough interest in this case, the information will be posted on the website, and eventually I think we'll see something on the HLN show.

    http://www.hlntv.com/shows/nancy-grace/on-the-radar

    I've also contacted local media but haven't had responses or seen/heard coverage of the case beyond the day or two following the hit-and-run. It's possible that there is nothing new to report that local producers don't find the case newsworthy.
    Good Morning BDE

    I was just thinking that yesterday as I was watching the Jodi Arias trial coverage. That case has center stage at the moment and all eyes are focused there for the time being.

    The more people that contact the HLN On The Radar Link the better!

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    I just watched the video of the crimestoppers press conf. I might just be thinking too deeply but I also find it odd that she was dumped in a mobile home park. Again, back to that message board it seems like living in a trailer park is looked down on (you are judged by your house size, where your house is, your wealth, your spouse and looks), and whoever did this to her was it their final revenge. They thought they were so much better then her and she deserved to be in the trailer. Was the husband so angry he did this and dumped her where she belonged (because he is so great and she is nothing without him). Again, I might just be thinking too much into it, but just wanted to see if anyone else thought that. Was it just a coinscience that she was hit by there and it was a convient place to pull over and dump her or was she dumped there on purpose because she was just useless trailer trash and that is where she belonged. Sorry if I offended anyone that was not my intent, but I just find it strange that she was left there.

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    I will also contact HLN about running this story, thanks BDE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beffie View Post
    I just watched the video of the crimestoppers press conf. I might just be thinking too deeply but I also find it odd that she was dumped in a mobile home park. Again, back to that message board it seems like living in a trailer park is looked down on (you are judged by your house size, where your house is, your wealth, your spouse and looks), and whoever did this to her was it their final revenge. They thought they were so much better then her and she deserved to be in the trailer. Was the husband so angry he did this and dumped her where she belonged (because he is so great and she is nothing without him). Again, I might just be thinking too much into it, but just wanted to see if anyone else thought that. Was it just a coinscience that she was hit by there and it was a convient place to pull over and dump her or was she dumped there on purpose because she was just useless trailer trash and that is where she belonged. Sorry if I offended anyone that was not my intent, but I just find it strange that she was left there.
    The trailer references run amuck over there on Topix. To me it makes no difference where this woman lived or what her social standing was. Before she was identified I saw references on several boards in reference to it probably being some one from the mobile home park and of course the next insinuation was that she were most likely doing drugs {sigh} More stereotypical banter.....

    But I do recall running across a comment early on one new story that a poster commented on Sandras coming from a "Rough Background" .. I will have to see if I can go find a link to that. I'm editing this to add that not for one minute do I believe this is the case. I do however believe that someone was in CYA mode right off the bat!

    IMO do not think this was their reason for leaving here there. I just think it was the most convenient and empty lot available at the moment.
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    The topix discussion is gone. Where are you watching the arias trial? Court TV is offline until Monday. Isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KayKay72 View Post
    The topix discussion is gone. Where are you watching the arias trial? Court TV is offline until Monday. Isn't it?
    Hi KayKay,

    I just noticed the Topix thread had been deleted myself. It was there an hour ago before I left for the grocery store and now poof its gone. Strange!

    My only conclusion is that when you have friends in certain circles then it may be easy to have things taken down that may put one in an unbecoming light?????

    No worries I have all the links that were posted on there and a new thread has started.

    I was watching the Jodi Arias thread here yesterday though I did not catch any of the on-line live feeds as they seem to have went off after lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guinevere View Post
    Hi KayKay,

    I just noticed the Topix thread had been deleted myself. It was there an hour ago before I left for the grocery store and now poof its gone. Strange!

    My only conclusion is that when you have friends in certain circles then it may be easy to have things taken down that may put one in an unbecoming light?????

    No worries I have all the links that were posted on there and a new thread has started.

    I was watching the Jodi Arias thread here yesterday though I did not catch any of the on-line live feeds as they seem to have went off after lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes View Post
    FYI: During one of my visits to that site this afternoon, the computer screen locked up with a warning for Windows System Restore. I'm no expert, but I think that site had gone "toxic" in more ways than one and that I might not have been the only visitor to end up with an "infection". Since DH got home, we have run the system restoration, rebooted our computer, and run a complete McAfee scan. I will avoid that site in the future. Please be careful!
    Hmmmm very strange. Did you alert topix?

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    ^ No, and I'm not going to go back to the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes View Post
    ^ No, and I'm not going to go back to the site.


    I'm on with apple products so less risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes View Post
    FYI: During one of my visits to that site this afternoon, the computer screen locked up with a warning for Windows System Restore. I'm no expert, but I think that site had gone "toxic" in more ways than one and that I might not have been the only visitor to end up with an "infection". Since DH got home, we have run the system restoration, rebooted our computer, and run a complete McAfee scan. I will avoid that site in the future. Please be careful!
    Interesting! I didn't run into any issues but just to be safe I'll run a System scan when I get home.

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    Another pedestrian struck by vehicle

    This fatality has similarities to Sandra Loepp's tragic death:


    Woman struck by vehicle, killed while walking on road in Farmington Hills

    Woman struck by vehicles while walking near Grand River Avenue, Martel Drive


    Published On: Jan 04 2013 09:05:10 PM EST Updated On: Jan 04 2013 10:40:50 PM EST

    FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. -
    A woman was struck by a vehicle and killed Friday night while she was walking on the road at Grand River Avenue and Martel Drive in Farmington Hills...

    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/W...z/-/index.html



    January 4, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    Woman killed crossing Grand River in Farmington Hills

    By Francis X. Donnelly
    The Detroit News

    Farmington Hills A 37-year-old woman was killed Friday night after being struck by several cars while trying to cross Grand River Avenue.

    The woman, whose identity wasn't released, was wearing dark clothes and wasn't at a crosswalk, Farmington Hills police said...

    From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz2H7Ls7wTB

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    I seen that this morning and thought the same thing. Both woman, both 37, both killed, but it looks like whoever hit this woman did not run off. I did not see anything about it being a hit and run, just she was killed crossing the street. So sad.

    Also they started another thread about Sandra on Topix. Looks like another one of her so called friends (who says she does not know them, but they are sure they are all wonderful great people blah blah blah) just threw a little temper tantrum. I wonder if they realize how they look to complete strangers. They are the ones name calling and it seems like strangers are the ones who want justice for Sandra. Questions must be asked, but if anyone says anything they do not like they resort to name calling and I am better then you, I am so intelligant, wealthy,better looking then you so I can do what I want and you better just be quiet or I will call you more names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes View Post
    This fatality has similarities to Sandra Loepp's tragic death:


    Woman struck by vehicle, killed while walking on road in Farmington Hills

    Woman struck by vehicles while walking near Grand River Avenue, Martel Drive

    Published On: Jan 04 2013 09:05:10 PM EST Updated On: Jan 04 2013 10:40:50 PM EST

    FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. -
    A woman was struck by a vehicle and killed Friday night while she was walking on the road at Grand River Avenue and Martel Drive in Farmington Hills...

    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/W...z/-/index.html



    January 4, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    Woman killed crossing Grand River in Farmington Hills

    By Francis X. Donnelly
    The Detroit News

    Farmington Hills A 37-year-old woman was killed Friday night after being struck by several cars while trying to cross Grand River Avenue.

    The woman, whose identity wasn't released, was wearing dark clothes and wasn't at a crosswalk, Farmington Hills police said...

    From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz2H7Ls7wTB

    Very Sad

    The only similarities I see here though are their ages and the fact they were on "Busy" roadways. This particular stretch of road seems much busier than Old Van Dyke where Sandra was hit though.

    Only this/these driver(s) stopped. So it was not a Hit & Run type scenario as we have with poor Sandra. This woman was also identified rather quickly in comparison and not left MIA for half a day without anyone noticing.

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    Most suburban areas don't have sidewalks, so it's simply not safe to walk along the shoulder or side of the road regardless of traffic patterns. Except for the streets in my neighborhood, I wouldn't walk or ride my bike anywhere without a sidewalk, and I would never do either in the dark.

    Most suburban neigborhoods don't have streetlights and unless homes are illuminated with post lamps or other outdoor lighting, it's just too dark for anyone to walk unless they wear reflective clothing. Even major roads aren't well-lit with streetlights being few and far between.

    Both of these unfortunate accidents should serve as a reminder that it's better to be safe than sorry.

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    Family of Sandra is looking for an estate lawyer to volunteer some expertise , contact through http://www.facebook.com/sandral117#!/sandral117
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatguy View Post
    Family of Sandra is looking for an estate lawyer to volunteer some expertise , contact through http://www.facebook.com/sandral117#!/sandral117
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    Hmmm. Sandra's family? Would that be... Sandra's mother? Her sisters? Sandra's children? Her husband, Vern? Exactly who is seeking legal advice regarding Sandra Loepp's "Estate"? I hope and pray that this request is not coming from someone who wants to "cash in" on the tragic and untimely death of the lovely Ms. Loepp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes View Post
    Hmmm. Sandra's family? Would that be... Sandra's mother? Her sisters? Sandra's children? Her husband, Vern? Exactly who is seeking legal advice regarding Sandra Loepp's "Estate"? I hope and pray that this request is not coming from someone who wants to "cash in" on the tragic and untimely death of the lovely Ms. Loepp.

    Good Question BDE...

    I wonder whos name most of the the assets, if any, and or Insurance Death Benefits. Could it be the family members of Sandra are looking to protect the childrens interests against maybe being taken solely by the spouse?

    Interesting

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    Has anyone looked at the Facebook link from post #91? I'm not a member and can't read it, but the posts on the Justice for Sandra Loepp website (available to non-subscribers) aren't numbered.

    Vern's "Linked In" account is no longer available. DH is a subscriber and checked it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes View Post
    Has anyone looked at the Facebook link from post #91? I'm not a member and can't read it, but the posts on the Justice for Sandra Loepp website (available to non-subscribers) aren't numbered.

    Vern's "Linked In" account is no longer available. DH is a subscriber and checked it for me.
    Yes BDE I checked it out. Funny thing was it is a link to Sandra's personal FB page. Which has not shown a post since before her death. Last one I was was dated Dec 13, 2012.

    It is not a link to the Justice for Sandra Loepp Page. The poster may have posted the wrong link by accident?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes View Post
    Has anyone looked at the Facebook link from post #91? I'm not a member and can't read it, but the posts on the Justice for Sandra Loepp website (available to non-subscribers) aren't numbered.

    Vern's "Linked In" account is no longer available. DH is a subscriber and checked it for me.
    I have seen nothing come through my feed or any posts on the Justice for Sandra Loepp page requesting assistance with obtaining an attorney.

    I'm not sure if the poster in post #91 has any connection to the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guinevere View Post
    I have seen nothing come through my feed or any posts on the Justice for Sandra Loepp page requesting assistance with obtaining an attorney.

    I'm not sure if the poster in post #91 has any connection to the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes View Post
    I'm always a bit skeptical about one-post-wonders who contribute a single post and are never heard from again
    Agreed!

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    Newest article to be released since shortly after the Crime Stoppers Presser:

    http://www.sourcenewspapers.com/arti...c681155787.txt

    The timing of this article is very ironic to say the least.... a little late on this story ya think ..... and on the same day the Original Topix thread was removed from the internet... hmmmm very interesting.....

    We all know that thread brought up some very interesting discussion which included why DH has remained so silent about the events of that evening.

    My guess is this article was prompted by one of the "friends" in the "circle". Its all in who you know in some parts....If you read this it attempts to put DH in a more positive light. From what has been uncovered over the last few weeks we know he's no angel.

    Did they watch the same Presser I did??? This was the most awkward Presser I have ever encountered. Those tears seemed forced to me not like he was "fighting them back" as stated in the caption Not to mention his demeanor and body language exhibited during this was one of the most defensive and closed off I have ever seen by a spouse! Especially one that is supposedly devastated and pleading with the public for help! To me it came off more as feelings of guilt of some sort, even if that guilt is only of not watching out for her interests that night.

    Now if he had the same demeanor as Sandras youngest sibling I may have bought into that statement "fighting back tears". She gave one of the most heartfelt pleas I have ever heard in the cases I've followed

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    ^ The screen shot of Vern Loepp from the CrimeStoppers video in that article speaks volumes. His stance suggests strongly that he did not want to be there, and his positioning away from his wife's family is very telling - they're on one side of the "story" about what caused Sandra to leave the restaurant on foot that night, and Vern's on the other and doesn't want to talk about it. If we ever find out what the couple argued about, we'll probably have a good idea about what really happened and who might be responsible for the fatal hit-and-run. Personally, I don't think that it was a random driver who struck Ms. Loepp: I think Sandra was mowed down by someone who was at the party that night.

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