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View Poll Results: In your opinion, is there a facial similarty between the GB4 victims and the AC4 vict

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  • Yes, no doubt, they are strikingly similar

    30 22.56%
  • Yes there are strikingly similarities, but also some differences

    39 29.32%
  • There are some similarities but more differences

    23 17.29%
  • There are absolutely no similarities

    10 7.52%
  • I donīt know

    4 3.01%
  • yes, there are similarities amongst the paired-up images, not all together

    18 13.53%
  • Yes, among the paired images the similarities are striking.

    9 6.77%

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  1. #16
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    Sorry just don't see the similarities in looks just as I do not see any link between the two cases.

  2. #17
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    SUGGESTION !!!

    If any of you are in contact with WS members on other threads/cases, please feel free to ask them to come here and look at the images and give their opinion/vote. (Give them a link to this thread, and ask them to take a good look at the images in post#1 and also read the text in post#1)

    One does NOT need to know the LISK case to decide wheter you belive thise pairs of girls (verticaly/red arrows), from two different murder cases (possibly linked?) have similarities or not, and it would actually be great to have people who is not "into" the case to contribute with their opinion.
    IMO that would give an even clearer picture of how strong, or not, the similarities are.

    So guys and gals speard the word!
    Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me

  3. #18
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    The main similarity between them is that they are all women.

    Seriously, you could get any four picture of random women and find similarities.

    They don't even look alike, all your "pairings" have different facial structures.

    Eyebrow shapes are different
    Eyebrow densities are different
    Eye shapes are different
    Hair styles are different
    Hair colours are different
    Cheekbone elevations are different
    Jawlines are different
    Center of face width are different
    Nose shapes are different
    Nose pitch is different

    What exactly is similar about any of those comparsions?
    Nose
    Last edited by Tugela; 12-19-2012 at 05:12 AM.

  4. #19
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    I don't know anything about these cases.

    I do think there are similarities. Not "OMG they could be sisters!" but if given a few dozen faces I would easily pick out the two paired faces as similar.

  5. #20
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    I think they look a lot alike.

  6. #21
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    Thank you SO very much to everyone who have voted

    This thread have been watched 991 times, and there are today 36 votes, so I very much hope that more WS member will decise to vote in the comming days

    Theforeigner
    Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me

  7. #22
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    I don't think so. Imo

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    None that are apparent to me.
    People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent. ~ Bob Dylan

  9. #24
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    Foreigner,
    I do see some kind of similiarity in the shape of the face between megan and molly. And a similiarity in the "seductive spark" in the eyes between Tracy and Melissa. But I do not see a resemblance in the others.
    "Emotions have taught mankind to reason."
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    Maureen's full name is Maureen BRAINARD Barnes.

    Just had to correct that.
    People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent. ~ Bob Dylan


  11. #26
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    Some of them are very similiar, and then some are equally not...

  12. #27
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    I do see similarities with each of them. but Tracy Ann Robers and Melissa Brathelemy stick out the most to me.

  13. #28
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    Maybe the killer has a type, maybe he doesn't. In '77 the press said Berkowitz would only kill women with long, dark hair. That turned out to be false according to the killer himself. It was just chance.


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  14. #29
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    I believe the AC and GB4 is the same killer. The timeline, victim profiles, the hotel connection to Long island with Kim Raffo, etc.. just too much that fits the puzzle. Again, I do not believe anything about the killer having a shoe fetish or the killer being of a certain faith because the victims were missing shoes and were facing east etc. I think he does certain things to throw off LE, and probably didn't think he would have to pull a Jessica Taylor with all the victims or just got a bit on the careless/lazy side with the AC4 and GB4 murders.

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    Just found a mug shot of Atlantic City (AC4)victim Kim Raffo.
    Here side by side with a mug shot of Long island (GB4) victim Amber Costello:

    Link to the Kim Raffo mug shot (in the video):
    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07...ngs/index.html
    "Atlantic City killings could be linked to others"
    By Jacinth Planer, CNN Special Investigations
    July 31, 2011




    I am STILL convinced THAT the AC4 and the GB4 victims were killed by the same killer!

    And that the killer after killing the AC4, choose to do a mirror/replica of his first serial killig cluster by picking 4 new victims (the GB4), via craigslist etc. ads with photos, that were look-alikes of the AC4 victims.

    Molly Jean Dilts..........looked like....Megan Waterman
    Barbara Breidor..........looked like....Maureen Brainard-Barnes
    Tracy Ann Roberts.....looked like....Melissa Barthelemy
    Kim Raffo.................looked like.... Amber Lynn Costell

    And...

    Common traits between the two clusters,the AC4 and the GB4:

    All Prostitues
    Killed 4 victims in 2 clusters
    Possibly/probably all victims killed by strangulation/suffocation
    Dumped both clusters, side by side, in a row
    Both clusters dumped by water
    All victims, except possibly Molly Jean Dilts, used dugs
    All AC4 were mothers...2 GB4 were mothers
    And I belive the two clusters are indeed look-alikes, the way I decribed above.

    The connection...and the motive...for ALL the AC4 and the GB4 murders, IMO...is...KIM RAFFO...
    Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me

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