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View Poll Results: In your opinion, is there a facial similarty between the GB4 victims and the AC4 vict

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  • Yes, no doubt, they are strikingly similar

    30 22.56%
  • Yes there are strikingly similarities, but also some differences

    39 29.32%
  • There are some similarities but more differences

    23 17.29%
  • There are absolutely no similarities

    10 7.52%
  • I donīt know

    4 3.01%
  • yes, there are similarities amongst the paired-up images, not all together

    18 13.53%
  • Yes, among the paired images the similarities are striking.

    9 6.77%

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  1. #61
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    Wow! You're right. Never noticed before.

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    Yes, I see the similarities especially between Amber Costello and Kim Raffo.

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    My hunch the four in gilco and the four in Atlantic City are connected. I'll bet they all resemble a female figure in this guys life. anybody thought about a mathematical analysis of similarity? Dude seems OCD to me, that's deeply rooted in numbers

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    There are definitely some similarities between the GB4 and the AC4. I especially see it between Tracy Ann Roberts (AC), and Melissa Barthelemy (GB). Good job noticing the similarities between the victims!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theforeigner View Post
    ATTENTION, those of you who have now written what your opinion is, please also vote I have added the vote function.

    Thanks in advance
    Where do we vote? I'm not seeing it!

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    You guys are grasping at straws, there is no connection between Atlantic City, and LISK. The only commonalities are the fact that the victims are prostitutes; but even that fact is unremarkable as numerous serial killers, going back to Jack the ripper have preyed upon them. Any chance that the AC vics, even vaguely resemble those of LISK is purely coincidence. This is a blind alley, don't try and find a connection/pattern in every murder ever committed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judgedredd View Post
    You guys are grasping at straws, there is no connection between Atlantic City, and LISK. The only commonalities are the fact that the victims are prostitutes; but even that fact is unremarkable as numerous serial killers, going back to Jack the ripper have preyed upon them. Any chance that the AC vics, even vaguely resemble those of LISK is purely coincidence. This is a blind alley, don't try and find a connection/pattern in every murder ever committed.
    Any pictures of vics that can be posted so others can judge look similarities?
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    They are two completely different killers, any similarities are purely coincidence. The girls in AC ranged in age from 20-40's and were picked up off the street, and looked like junkies and were not preselected. Gilgo, the girls were all young(20's)and attractive, which is probably why they were selected off of the Internet. These killings are completely unrelated, the only common theme is the fact that they were pros, but as I've said thats nothing remarkable as a significant numbers of serial killers target them.

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    There are definitely more similarities. They were also dumped closely together, in clusters of four. All eight had ties to drugs, if I'm recalling correctly. Most of them were mothers. Why couldn't the killer have escalated and chosen victims more specifically over time once they hit LI?

    I just feel like we can't definitely rule these connections as pure coincidence without more evidence.

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  10. #70
    Is it possible that some deaths where faked and then new identities? a very unlikely theory though. I found two pairs looked most alike;
    Molly Jean Ditz and Megan Waterman look very alike except different hair colours.
    In Amber Costello and Kim Raffo's mugshots they look almost like twins but again with the hair colours is it possible that some are related somehow? Or is something more sinister happening?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Theforeigner View Post
    In your opinion, is there a facial similarty between the GB4 victims and the AC4 victims?

    I can definately see the similarities but to me, Tracy Ann Roberts and Megan Waterman look alike, whereas Molly Jean Dilts is a better match for Maureen Brainer-Barnes. That's just my perception though. It would be really interesting if someone could run these photographs through facial mapping software and map out the similarities and the differences between all these victims, could provide some interesting results. I wish I could offer to do it but my Photoshop-fu is too weak I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiousperson101 View Post
    Is it possible that some deaths where faked and then new identities? a very unlikely theory though. I found two pairs looked most alike;
    Molly Jean Ditz and Megan Waterman look very alike except different hair colours.
    In Amber Costello and Kim Raffo's mugshots they look almost like twins but again with the hair colours is it possible that some are related somehow? Or is something more sinister happening?
    The chances of any of these girls faking their own deaths is slim to none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel1 View Post
    The chances of any of these girls faking their own deaths is slim to none.
    It's a lot harder to fake your own death than most people realise. Largely thanks to the movie industry, there's this idea that if someone really wants to disappear, they can manufacture their own death using a variety of means, such as killing a look alike and using the ol' set your car on fire and launch it off a cliff trick. This sort of thing works great in movies but in real life there's DNA testing, dental records and all of this other stuff that will foil your plans. But, for the sake of argument, lets say you successfully fake your own death, what then? Unless you plan to go live with a wolf pack or a family of bears or something, you're going to need a new identity and to legitimise that new identity so you can exist in the normal world, you'll need a birth certificate, a tax number, photo ID, a bank account. Probably the most famous case of someone who actually did this is Lori Erica Ruff, and she didn't fake her own death, she disappeared. And the reason she got away with what she did for so long is because she exploited some loopholes in the system which no longer exist. The chances that someone could do the same thing now are pretty small.

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    Tracy Ann Roberts looks very similar to a young Melissa Barthelemy (the pics of Melissa when she was in high school). I noticed that right away.

    The only other similarity I see is Kim Raffo and Amber Costello. Both had high foreheads, noses that were large for their long, slender faces, and full lips. They also had similar eyes in that I could tell they were both addicts just by their eyes.

    Molly Jean Dilts and Megan Waterman both had full cheeks and flatter noses, but there ends the similarities IMO.

    Barbara Breidor has always looked like she just didn't fit. I don't know how to explain it but she stood out to me as in "one of these things is not like the other."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judgedredd View Post
    You guys are grasping at straws, there is no connection between Atlantic City, and LISK. The only commonalities are the fact that the victims are prostitutes; but even that fact is unremarkable as numerous serial killers, going back to Jack the ripper have preyed upon them. Any chance that the AC vics, even vaguely resemble those of LISK is purely coincidence. This is a blind alley, don't try and find a connection/pattern in every murder ever committed.
    In all respect, I don't think you know enough facts about the AC4 and GB4 murder cases to make that statement,
    please take a look at this 07-24-2012, post of mine:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...68#post8187068
    Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me

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