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    Quote Originally Posted by pepperspray View Post
    Nancy and Peter built a house next to the house she grew up in, may have been a sign of why the first grade was selected at Sandy Hook Elementary, Adam didn't appreciate the move.

    Adam was out of his comfort zone. Moving to Connecticut and all the stranger's who were not his relatives, was overwhelming to Adam.

    Was Nancy looking at going back to New Hampshire to help Adam and somehow he got confused and was hurt and angry about everything and so retaliated to send a message to the World at large?

    Was this the voice that everyone would finally hear, the attention he neglected, by his shooting spree? Was this his depression, the move from New Hampshire and then shortly after, his father moves out of the house?
    My understanding is that NANCY loved those children in the first grade, and I think he took tem out because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HMSHood View Post
    Generally, I have read mentally ill people are a danger to themselves and possibly family members. They are at more riskmfor violence if they have a history of violence or do drugs.

    Addiction can really tear up families. It causes so much trouble. I wonder if Adam Lanza had any substance abuse.
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    Adam was playing the most violent video games for hours.
    If you think that a beer commercial on a ball game pays millions of dollars for one minute to reach many. Then think what hours of violent games will do to the mind.
    Now how about hours of violent games on the mind of an imbalanced boy?


    WHILE we are all addressing the gun issue.
    I think it is time to address violent games too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkman00 View Post
    Sorry if it was posted before... (i wasn't here for few days)

    Adam Lanza's online gaming history probed

    Michael P. Mayko

    Updated 7:45 am, Monday, December 24, 2012

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/...ed-4141582.php
    It is known that he played hours and hours of violent games. IMO there in lies a huge problem in itself.
    I can’t imagine that fantasy and reality did not blur for this Mentally challenged kid.
    HOWEVER based on the following paragraph from this article it tells me that he committed suicide after hearing the police on the premises.... HE KNEW that what he has done was wrong.

    "Upon hearing police sirens and officers smashing windows to enter the school, Lanza ducked into another room and committed suicide with one of the two handguns he carried, a source said."


    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/...#ixzz2G5M161Mw
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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    My understanding is that NANCY loved those children in the first grade, and I think he took tem out because of it.
    I am still not sure Nancy ever volunteered at the school. There is so much contradictory information on that.
    Just my opinion

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    "His brother, Ryan Lanza, told ABC news that Adam "is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a 'personality disorder."

    http://www.theatlantic.com/health/ar...-lanza/266322/

    Has this been discussed... the brother saying "and a personality disorder"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    I am still not sure Nancy ever volunteered at the school. There is so much contradictory information on that.
    "Adam's mother Nancy would drop him off, then sit in the next room while Jennifer worked with him"

    http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_22239366...lanza-she-knew

    It's JMO but...
    Based on this description, I think she MAY have attended elementary school WITH him. How weird would that be for a young boy?

    Having mom go to school with him everyday... when all the other kids are sent to school alone.

    IMO there was some strange co-dependency going on there.
    Nothing to support my opinion at this time. -other than the high school teachers affirmation.

    Someone thought she was employed or taught at the elementary school.

    I want to know WHO thought that and WHY???
    ~ my opinion only

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4MYGUYS View Post
    A little OT, but I know little about DD of schiz./ PD, etc.
    I keep wondering why these mass killers, CO, VA Tech, Columbine, all seem to be from well healed and educated families that could have provided much more psych help to their sons. I haven't followed this in the past, but I am wondering, why don't we hear about 20 something males from impoverished backgrounds commiting these atrocities? I would love anyones input. Merry Christmas my WS friends.
    Thank you. I think this is why it is impossible for us and wrong to turn our backs, stick our heads in the sand and " Stop Speculating" about AL and NL and BlahBlahBlah as so many people keep imploring. Why should we stop? We have to ask questions and demand answers, connect the threads, make a map, observe the trend of teens turned killers. If only the dear angels in Newtown would have given their lives to create a sea change in our culture and end the violence.

    The street gang bangers are graduating from the DOC and the white kids are turning into mass killers using super anti personel weapons at HS Colleges and now Elementary schools.
    JMO These are not issues of first or 2nd amendments rights. These are of higher orders - justice, domestic tranquility & general welfare.

    I would love to see a thread here on WS where we can we have a speculation discussion?
    Many people are making important contributions. JustSayin'

    Also- I wonder if our own WSers on the KC anthony case who cracked her hard drive would be able to figure out AL's computers.

    Bless you all and Merry Christmas
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    and the Missing and victims everywhere especially the case so dear to my heart.




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    It seems that the only way we show compassion to each other is during a tragedy. We have to as a society start watching our children's behavior from birth until they leave home. If they are having problems ask for help, a lot of people are embarrassed to admit their children are having mental problems. That needs to change. Times have changed even from 10 yrs ago. Everything is go go go. We need to stop, look and listen. The so called popular children need to extend themselves to the ones who don't know how to blend in. We all need to realize we are all different, and we are all human.
    It's almost been a year since we did our last show.Jay Bush my partner has been auditioning for the show Shark Tank and so this has put the show on hold. If he gets on Shark Tank, we will be terribly delayed. Good luck Jay. Either way we will one day continue the show and have the coolest global independent radio station out there. This is just a small video we did with one of our artists.Waiting for One and their tune 35 years. Check it out.
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    We hope to be doing a radio show with all our artists real soon. Hope you can join in the fun. Please bare with us while we improve the show especially the sound.
    Laserdog Enterprises would like to bring you our version of a Tribute to the Angels of Newtown. Another school shooting in Georgia thankfully no children were hurt.
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    I agree gngr-snap, but many parents when their child is different, get very protective and have expectations of schools. But i believe as someone said in a previos thread, the adult future of these children is most important.
    The woman i know with a daughter was at the school often and never thought the school did enough. At 14 the the girl was put on the pill. last time i socilized at the mothers place, the then 12 year old child was crawling over people like a 5 yr old, it was uncomfortable, i asked -have you not discussed her respect for her body, and other peoples space, "well no cause well she has adhd and dos'nt understand" duh

    My child did not go to special classes, he went to a mental health councellor twice a week alone,(i went seperatly) we learned ,self soothing, every action has a reaction, you are responsible for your choices. I could not put him in time out, he was out the window or wrecking, could not take stuff away, because he would flip, so it was bear hugs till he calmed(i was black and blue) and we talked and read the handouts they gave me, " i say see this is what it says, your going to be perfect now" then we would laugh. It was 4yrs to 10yrs then we moved, i thought it might be a problem, but it was good, before he was a problem child, he even new that some kids did the negative attention thing. I did put him in an alterative school for troubled kids, they are heavy into social skills. He told me "sometimes i don't think like myself" i say i understand it might always be this way. what more can i say?

    I think Adam would of been better off in a trailer park, because of the basic stimulli of voices, cars driving by - and of course the nosey neibours.
    i don't think A was doing drugs unless mom was supplying him, can't see him haggling with the local drug dealer.
    Nancy was antisocial, i'm like that, i am really chatty-taught my child- watch this- just get people talking about themselves- and truly i am interested in how people deal with life, cause i learn social skills that way. she let no-one in her home, she has no close friends. adam, his mother took the charge of controlling life, her face ,her mouth -words-voice- well i can see the face shots.
    my child plays the same games, but ya know i don't think any one talked with adam about that this is not real- as in you don't drive with your thumbs
    JMO mom said i know how to deal with Adam and bro and dad accepted that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iSleuth View Post



    Also- I wonder if our own WSers on the KC anthony case who cracked her hard drive would be able to figure out AL's computers.
    Snipped and bolded by me.

    AL physically smashed his hard drive. I know someone will correct me if I am wrong, but the investigators in Florida simply didn't bother to look at the history from firefox - only IE - on the Anthony's computer. Big, big difference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nao View Post
    I agree gngr-snap, but many parents when their child is different, get very protective and have expectations of schools. But i believe as someone said in a previos thread, the adult future of these children is most important.
    The woman i know with a daughter was at the school often and never thought the school did enough. At 14 the the girl was put on the pill. last time i socilized at the mothers place, the then 12 year old child was crawling over people like a 5 yr old, it was uncomfortable, i asked -have you not discussed her respect for her body, and other peoples space, "well no cause well she has adhd and dos'nt understand" duh

    My child did not go to special classes, he went to a mental health councellor twice a week alone,(i went seperatly) we learned ,self soothing, every action has a reaction, you are responsible for your choices. I could not put him in time out, he was out the window or wrecking, could not take stuff away, because he would flip, so it was bear hugs till he calmed(i was black and blue) and we talked and read the handouts they gave me, " i say see this is what it says, your going to be perfect now" then we would laugh. It was 4yrs to 10yrs then we moved, i thought it might be a problem, but it was good, before he was a problem child, he even new that some kids did the negative attention thing. I did put him in an alterative school for troubled kids, they are heavy into social skills. He told me "sometimes i don't think like myself" i say i understand it might always be this way. what more can i say?

    I think Adam would of been better off in a trailer park, because of the basic stimulli of voices, cars driving by - and of course the nosey neibours.
    i don't think A was doing drugs unless mom was supplying him, can't see him haggling with the local drug dealer.
    Nancy was antisocial, i'm like that, i am really chatty-taught my child- watch this- just get people talking about themselves- and truly i am interested in how people deal with life, cause i learn social skills that way. she let no-one in her home, she has no close friends. adam, his mother took the charge of controlling life, her face ,her mouth -words-voice- well i can see the face shots.
    my child plays the same games, but ya know i don't think any one talked with adam about that this is not real- as in you don't drive with your thumbs
    JMO mom said i know how to deal with Adam and bro and dad accepted that.
    BBM
    It is your opinion that finances had to do with this and you are certainly free to speculate as wildly as you want to, but there is absolutely no evidence that Nancy was anti-social. Quite the opposite, actually. There is enough misinformation swirling around this case as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brighidin View Post
    Snipped and bolded by me.

    AL physically smashed his hard drive. I know someone will correct me if I am wrong, but the investigators in Florida simply didn't bother to look at the history from firefox - only IE - on the Anthony's computer. Big, big difference.
    I think it's because they got the shooter. If there was a mystery here then they would do whatever they could to find out who did it. What needs to be done now is put a community back together.
    It's almost been a year since we did our last show.Jay Bush my partner has been auditioning for the show Shark Tank and so this has put the show on hold. If he gets on Shark Tank, we will be terribly delayed. Good luck Jay. Either way we will one day continue the show and have the coolest global independent radio station out there. This is just a small video we did with one of our artists.Waiting for One and their tune 35 years. Check it out.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Go80y20fA
    We hope to be doing a radio show with all our artists real soon. Hope you can join in the fun. Please bare with us while we improve the show especially the sound.
    Laserdog Enterprises would like to bring you our version of a Tribute to the Angels of Newtown. Another school shooting in Georgia thankfully no children were hurt.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axOGOBT77Xs

    Please take a few moments and visit the missing children site. We really need you.
    Click on the link to find a missing child,teen or adult.

    http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...eCountry=en_US

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    Quote Originally Posted by nao View Post
    I agree gngr-snap, but many parents when their child is different, get very protective and have expectations of schools. But i believe as someone said in a previos thread, the adult future of these children is most important.
    The woman i know with a daughter was at the school often and never thought the school did enough. At 14 the the girl was put on the pill. last time i socilized at the mothers place, the then 12 year old child was crawling over people like a 5 yr old, it was uncomfortable, i asked -have you not discussed her respect for her body, and other peoples space, "well no cause well she has adhd and dos'nt understand" duh

    My child did not go to special classes, he went to a mental health councellor twice a week alone,(i went seperatly) we learned ,self soothing, every action has a reaction, you are responsible for your choices. I could not put him in time out, he was out the window or wrecking, could not take stuff away, because he would flip, so it was bear hugs till he calmed(i was black and blue) and we talked and read the handouts they gave me, " i say see this is what it says, your going to be perfect now" then we would laugh. It was 4yrs to 10yrs then we moved, i thought it might be a problem, but it was good, before he was a problem child, he even new that some kids did the negative attention thing. I did put him in an alterative school for troubled kids, they are heavy into social skills. He told me "sometimes i don't think like myself" i say i understand it might always be this way. what more can i say?

    I think Adam would of been better off in a trailer park, because of the basic stimulli of voices, cars driving by - and of course the nosey neibours.
    i don't think A was doing drugs unless mom was supplying him, can't see him haggling with the local drug dealer.
    Nancy was antisocial, i'm like that, i am really chatty-taught my child- watch this- just get people talking about themselves- and truly i am interested in how people deal with life, cause i learn social skills that way. she let no-one in her home, she has no close friends. adam, his mother took the charge of controlling life, her face ,her mouth -words-voice- well i can see the face shots.
    my child plays the same games, but ya know i don't think any one talked with adam about that this is not real- as in you don't drive with your thumbs
    JMO mom said i know how to deal with Adam and bro and dad accepted that.
    Thank you for sharing! I think you are a very hands on mom and I suspect a very good one! Appreciate your thoughtful posts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nao View Post
    I agree gngr-snap, but many parents when their child is different, get very protective and have expectations of schools. But i believe as someone said in a previos thread, the adult future of these children is most important.
    The woman i know with a daughter was at the school often and never thought the school did enough. At 14 the the girl was put on the pill. last time i socilized at the mothers place, the then 12 year old child was crawling over people like a 5 yr old, it was uncomfortable, i asked -have you not discussed her respect for her body, and other peoples space, "well no cause well she has adhd and dos'nt understand" duh

    My child did not go to special classes, he went to a mental health councellor twice a week alone,(i went seperatly) we learned ,self soothing, every action has a reaction, you are responsible for your choices. I could not put him in time out, he was out the window or wrecking, could not take stuff away, because he would flip, so it was bear hugs till he calmed(i was black and blue) and we talked and read the handouts they gave me, " i say see this is what it says, your going to be perfect now" then we would laugh. It was 4yrs to 10yrs then we moved, i thought it might be a problem, but it was good, before he was a problem child, he even new that some kids did the negative attention thing. I did put him in an alterative school for troubled kids, they are heavy into social skills. He told me "sometimes i don't think like myself" i say i understand it might always be this way. what more can i say?

    I think Adam would of been better off in a trailer park, because of the basic stimulli of voices, cars driving by - and of course the nosey neibours.
    i don't think A was doing drugs unless mom was supplying him, can't see him haggling with the local drug dealer.
    Nancy was antisocial, i'm like that, i am really chatty-taught my child- watch this- just get people talking about themselves- and truly i am interested in how people deal with life, cause i learn social skills that way. she let no-one in her home, she has no close friends. adam, his mother took the charge of controlling life, her face ,her mouth -words-voice- well i can see the face shots.
    my child plays the same games, but ya know i don't think any one talked with adam about that this is not real- as in you don't drive with your thumbs
    JMO mom said i know how to deal with Adam and bro and dad accepted that.
    BBM
    Respectfully, on what are you basing your opinion that Nancy was antisocial?
    Last edited by callyn; 12-25-2012 at 08:22 PM. Reason: add bbm

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    Interesting, lengthy Washington Post article from yesterday:

    Frustrating search for Newtown, Conn., shooter Adam Lanza's motive

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