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    Baby Macaws

    I have beautiful baby macaws for sale if anyone is interested, my website is http://sashasbirds.tripod.com/

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    OMG they are beautiful..I saved your site to my favorites incase I am interested in another bird in the future..I now have a Amazon and a Goffin Cockatoo..

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    Your birds are so cute. I have a green wing macaw since 1981 and it is a great bird and a good bird. We never got it sexed but since we never got an egg I guess it is a male. We usually refer to it as she. We never cage our bird. Josie has free run of the house and yes she can make a mess but we don't care. Josie usually stays on the Florida room on top of her cage and perches.
    Prayers for all murdered wives and children. My posts are my opinion only.

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    Thanks LDC and jbl!

    Just because you have never gotten an egg doesn't mean it cant be a girl, ya never really know without having them sexed. All my babies are also out all the time.
    Sasha

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    Aren't these birds endangered???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhodirasta
    Aren't these birds endangered???
    according to
    www.redlist.org the only bird that they are selling that
    is on the list is the Military Macaw.
    And it's listed as vulnerable, not endangered.
    http://www.redlist.org/search/details.php?species=1972

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharon25
    according to
    www.redlist.org the only bird that they are selling that
    is on the list is the Military Macaw.
    And it's listed as vulnerable, not endangered.
    http://www.redlist.org/search/details.php?species=1972
    This is not true.
    she is selling scarlet macaws.

    The Scarlet Macaw is one of the largest and most beautiful birds in Belize. The bright colors and long life span (up to 100 years) make them targets for poachers who sell the birds as pets. You may have even seen one in a pet store where you live. It is now illegal to sell or keep Scarlet Macaws as pets, but it may be too late. There are less than 200 of them remaining in Belize and they need a large forest for their population to be successful. In addition to the population being reduced through poaching, habitat loss has made it difficult for them to survive in the wild. They are one of the most endangered bird species in Belize. We saw flocks of Blue and Gold Macaws when we were on the Amazon, but we only saw one Scarlet Macaw.
    http://www.virtualexplorers.org/belize/belize_zoo.html
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    And From her site....
    Baby Scarlet Macaw $1500.00
    5 months old/weaned/very large babies
    Big Beautiful Rainbow colored Macaws! Very friendly, handled by my six year old!
    http://sashasbirds.tripod.com/id3.html
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    http://www.ecotourism-adventure.com/...caw-rescue.htm

    Deforestation has reduced the habitats to just a few areas where Scarlet Macaws still survive. On top of it all Scarlet Macaws are highly prized in the illegal pet trade, sometimes being sold for up to $2500. Therefore, some people in certain communities adjacent to Scarlet Macaws’ breeding and nesting sites have found poaching or "harvesting" their pigeons a lucrative opportunity to help increase their economic opportunities.

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    Markets like this one are found all over the world. In Brazil, scarlet macaws stolen from the Amazon rain forest go for $200. In Malaysia, rare blood pythons are sold for $40. Many buyers smuggle them overseas, where they sell at much, much higher prices.

    http://www.timeforkids.com/TFK/magaz...,88457,00.html
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    Before ANYONE thinks of buying a macaw, and a scarlet one at that, KNOW THE FACTS.

    I think this is just horrible.
    I surely hope the mods are aware of the plight of scarlet macaws, and any macaws for that matter...
    and I surely hope that common sense tells people not to buy birds taken out of their natural habitats that are IN DANGER and sold for hefty hefty prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhodirasta
    This is not true.
    she is selling scarlet macaws.

    The Scarlet Macaw is one of the largest and most beautiful birds in Belize. The bright colors and long life span (up to 100 years) make them targets for poachers who sell the birds as pets. You may have even seen one in a pet store where you live. It is now illegal to sell or keep Scarlet Macaws as pets, but it may be too late. There are less than 200 of them remaining in Belize and they need a large forest for their population to be successful. In addition to the population being reduced through poaching, habitat loss has made it difficult for them to survive in the wild. They are one of the most endangered bird species in Belize. We saw flocks of Blue and Gold Macaws when we were on the Amazon, but we only saw one Scarlet Macaw.
    http://www.virtualexplorers.org/belize/belize_zoo.html
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    And From her site....
    Baby Scarlet Macaw $1500.00
    5 months old/weaned/very large babies
    Big Beautiful Rainbow colored Macaws! Very friendly, handled by my six year old!
    http://sashasbirds.tripod.com/id3.html
    ......................

    http://www.ecotourism-adventure.com/...caw-rescue.htm

    Deforestation has reduced the habitats to just a few areas where Scarlet Macaws still survive. On top of it all Scarlet Macaws are highly prized in the illegal pet trade, sometimes being sold for up to $2500. Therefore, some people in certain communities adjacent to Scarlet Macaws’ breeding and nesting sites have found poaching or "harvesting" their pigeons a lucrative opportunity to help increase their economic opportunities.

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    Markets like this one are found all over the world. In Brazil, scarlet macaws stolen from the Amazon rain forest go for $200. In Malaysia, rare blood pythons are sold for $40. Many buyers smuggle them overseas, where they sell at much, much higher prices.

    http://www.timeforkids.com/TFK/magaz...,88457,00.html
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    Before ANYONE thinks of buying a macaw, and a scarlet one at that, KNOW THE FACTS.

    I think this is just horrible.
    I surely hope the mods are aware of the plight of scarlet macaws, and any macaws for that matter...
    and I surely hope that common sense tells people not to buy birds taken out of their natural habitats that are IN DANGER and sold for hefty hefty prices.
    The only think I've been able to find is that it is illegal to sell WILD scarlet macaws. I'm sure the woman actually Selling these birds could provide the answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharon25
    The only think I've been able to find is that it is illegal to sell WILD scarlet macaws. I'm sure the woman actually Selling these birds could provide the answers.
    Sharon,

    Where would she get the breeding pair?

    I will re-affirm my opinion, that SCARLET macaws belong WILD and FREE, and are ENDANGERED.

    I have contacted some sources, and will report back as soon as I hear...since this woman has mysteriously disappeared, and can't seem to answer these questions. I only wish I had found this thread earlier...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhodirasta
    Sharon,

    Where would she get the breeding pair?

    I will re-affirm my opinion, that SCARLET macaws belong WILD and FREE, and are ENDANGERED.

    I have contacted some sources, and will report back as soon as I hear...since this woman has mysteriously disappeared, and can't seem to answer these questions. I only wish I had found this thread earlier...
    I do agree with what you are saying,
    and obviously somewhere along the
    birds family tree, one of those birds
    came from the wild.

    What I was saying, is that I haven't found
    anything that says it's illegal to sell
    babies that were born in captivity.

    I do agree with you about those birds.
    They are definitely beautiful, but if
    we keep the demand up for them, they
    will only continue to be stolen and sold
    on the illegal market.


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    Yes sharon, they KEY is demand. As long as anyone makes money selling endangered species as clipped wing pets, there will be a problem. This is why I am blabbing my head off. PLEASE PEOPLE! Know from where and how you are getting your pets!

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    It is thought that two million parrots alone are legally or
    illegally traded each year. More than 1.8 million parrots legally
    entered the international trade from 1982-1988 of which 80 percent
    were imported into the United States. More than 90 percent of the
    parrots imported into the United States are probably wild caught.



    The smuggler's techniques are especially cruel. First,
    thousands and thousands of baby birds are taken out of their nests.
    Young parrots are particularly at risk because they have
    pinfeathers that hold blood. If they are not handled correctly,
    they can even bleed to death. In the transportation of the birds
    to the United States: people sometimes swim the birds across the
    Rio Grande floating the cages on inner tubes, birds are taped
    inside hubcaps and drugged beforehand so they can stand the motion
    of the car as it makes the bumpy trip across the border, or
    smugglers give the parrots tequila and stick them in the hubcaps,
    also they are sometimes stuffed beneath women's clothing with their
    beaks taped close. Smugglers with larger operations usually stuff
    the parrots into wooden crates, hiding them among other cargos in
    large trucks without air conditioning.


    http://www.american.edu/TED/parrot.htm
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    NINETY PERCENT.

    I SURELY hope that people thinking of buying these BEAUTIFUL BIRDS know where NINETY PERCENT of them are coming from...

    As I said before, I am waiting to hear back from several different sources. I know FOR A FACT it IS ILLEGAL to sell these birds without a LICENSE.

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    It's odd that she has disappeared now...but when did this law about selling the scarlets go into effect? Macaws live a LOOOONNG time. Could she have had them before this?

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    Captive breeding of exotic birds is perfectly legal. In fact, if it were not for breeders, many species, including the extremely endangered hyacinth macaw, would be much worse off than they are. Original poster is doing nothing wrong.

    What is wrong is to import any more wild birds. By the way, wild birds do not make good pets. The Belize reference is telling people to please not take any more animals, including birds, out of their natural environment.

    Most breeders, by the way, do not make a pile of money and do it because they absolutely love the birds.

    I have two lowly but much loved Quaker Parrots. I considered breeding Parrotlets but I would be hard pressed to give up the babies.

    Bird Talk is an excellent magazine reference for these kind of issues.
    Avid mystery buff.

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    Come back, Birdmom!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirielle
    Captive breeding of exotic birds is perfectly legal. In fact, if it were not for breeders, many species, including the extremely endangered hyacinth macaw, would be much worse off than they are. Original poster is doing nothing wrong.

    What is wrong is to import any more wild birds. By the way, wild birds do not make good pets. The Belize reference is telling people to please not take any more animals, including birds, out of their natural environment.

    Most breeders, by the way, do not make a pile of money and do it because they absolutely love the birds.

    I have two lowly but much loved Quaker Parrots. I considered breeding Parrotlets but I would be hard pressed to give up the babies.

    Bird Talk is an excellent magazine reference for these kind of issues.
    What is not legal is capturing the SCARLET Macaw for breeding purposes and selling them without a license.
    The SCARLET Macaw is endangered.
    She is selling them for 1500- MUCH MORE than what they are smuggled for.
    I don't agree with this at all. She has disappeared, and I don't see any reference to a license on her page.

    It creates demand for the smuggled birds, it condones STEALING them from their NATURAL HABITAT.

    People should understand what is happening...
    The SCARLET Macaw belongs WILD, not in a cage with its wings clipped...
    It IS Ilegal to even sell them in many parts of the world. This should tell some of the people considering buying these birds something.

    As recent as 1989, the reported Belizean population of Scarlet Macaws was a total of 24 birds. But in 1996, a new population of over 100 birds was "discovered" south of the Cockscomb Basin Wildlife Sanctuary. Unfortunately, over most of its range, the Scarlet macaw is endangered, a victim of human greed - many have been taken as a commodity in the pet trade.
    http://www.belizezoo.org/zoo/zoo/birds/mac/mac1.html
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    It is just NOT TRUE that the pet trade has kept these birds from being threatened.
    Last edited by Bhodirasta; 05-30-2005 at 06:34 PM.

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