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    Quote Originally Posted by CriminalMinds View Post
    nice work-wonder if it's the same one as someone else also found---- (snipped from another thread):
    "... this offender is female. There is also a listing of a male that works/worked on the same road as the Family Dollar that Brittany Gary had gone to.""
    Can you shoot me a PM with the name of these offenders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    You guys are doing an excellent job. I'm very happy to see this forum revived, and I'll be adding to the threads this weekend.

    Enjoy your vacation, Justiceforever!

    Thanks Bessie! I am enjoying this time off the road. I will get back to work when I get back on the truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforever View Post
    Can you shoot me a PM with the name of these offenders?
    I am still doing alot of reading,but I have not come across the names as of yet.
    I sent you the PM.
    I have tried to research the 3 names a look at their court transcripts pertaining to their offense that put them in the Sex offenders registry in the first place or drug convictions. No luck there. Only found that one has lost custody of a child.
    All 3 are violent sex offenders. Rape, Sex assault and Sex battery.
    All 3 live close to the area where the bodies were dumped.
    All 3 where not incarcerated at the time of the murders as far as I can determine.
    All 3 were verified by LE to be living at the current address listed as of 2012.
    1 is from out of state, so far I cannot find a date as to when he moved to Jennings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugzter View Post
    I am still doing alot of reading,but I have not come across the names as of yet.
    I sent you the PM.
    I have tried to research the 3 names a look at their court transcripts pertaining to their offense that put them in the Sex offenders registry in the first place or drug convictions. No luck there. Only found that one has lost custody of a child.
    All 3 are violent sex offenders. Rape, Sex assault and Sex battery.
    All 3 live close to the area where the bodies were dumped.
    All 3 where not incarcerated at the time of the murders as far as I can determine.
    All 3 were verified by LE to be living at the current address listed as of 2012.
    1 is from out of state, so far I cannot find a date as to when he moved to Jennings.
    Take a look at Zavier L in Lake Charles.
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    Am I understanding correctly that we can provide links to blogs and paraphrase but not copy and paste? AND that they are only considered to be rumor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforever View Post
    Am I understanding correctly that we can provide links to blogs and paraphrase but not copy and paste? AND that they are only considered to be rumor?
    You've got it right, Justiceforever. There are many blogs and forums dedicated to the Jennings murders. I've followed them, myself, for years now. Some are more credible than others, and I can't think of any that should be outright banned (this is subject to change).

    Keep in mind, MSM should always be the first choice to source information. Unfortunately, many of the original articles have been archived and are no longer available online, or only available for a fee. If you come across a link to an article that's no longer available, but you can find the article on a website, you can link the website as the source.

    A few examples:

    Murder in Jeff Davis Parish

    The owner of this blog has amassed a great deal of information based on MSM reporting. The same owner has dedicated a separate page for each victim. The information on the victims' pages is a recap of MSM.

    Another good link from this source: http://www.scribd.com/doc/8229542/Le...erwordpresscom

    Other good sources:

    KLPC-TV

    KATC-TV

    AIT, LLC, P.I. Kirk Menard's agency's website

    http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/...t=10118&page=3

    Regarding comments and posts by readers, we cannot copy and paste these. If you find something of particular interest, paraphrase the relevant part, and give directions for others to find it, for example, "See comment by JD on xx/xx/xxxx at xx:xx PM". Always provide a link. Then you can add your own thoughts as an "IF" statement, e.g., "If this information is true, then..."

    Posts/comments are not to be considered fact, but if credible, they can be used as food for thought and ideas for further sleuthing. Just don't get carried away. Keyword is "credible".
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    Quote Originally Posted by nugzter View Post
    ... I went to the Sex Offender Registry for Jennings. Eliminating pedophiles, Child Porn, offenders incarcerated during and after 2005 and other non-violent offences, I was able to come up with 3 names that live in close proximity of the area where the bodies were found. One in particular, right in the middle of a 4 body cluster. I know I cannot release the names here...
    You can link to RSO's in the area of a crime, but use discretion. Don't post photos or full names. Initials are first name plus last initial should be okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    You got it, Justiceforever. There are many blogs and forums dedicated to the Jennings murders. I've followed them, myself, for years now. Some are more credible than others, and I can't think of any that should be outright banned (this is subject to change).

    Keep in mind, MSM should always be the first choice to source information. Unfortunately, many of the original articles have been archived and are no longer available online, or only available for a fee. If you come across a link to an article that's no longer available, but you can find the article on a website, you can link the website as the source.

    A few examples:

    Murder in Jeff Davis Parish

    The owner of this blog has amassed a great deal of information based on MSM reporting. The same owner has dedicated a separate page for each victim. The information on the victims' pages is a recap of MSM.

    Another good link from this source: http://www.scribd.com/doc/8229542/Le...erwordpresscom

    Other good sources:

    KLPC-TV

    KATC-TV

    AIT, LLC, P.I. Kirk Menard's agency's website

    http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/...t=10118&page=3

    Regarding comments and posts by readers, we cannot copy and paste these. If you find something of particular interest, paraphrase the relevant part, and give directions for others to find it, for example, "See comment by JD on xx/xx/xxxx at xx:xx PM". Always provide a link. Then you can add your own thoughts as an "IF" statement, e.g., "If this information is true, then..."

    Posts/comments are not to be considered fact, but if credible, they can be used as food for thought and ideas for further sleuthing. Just don't get carried away. Keyword is "credible".
    Thanks Bessie. I'll keep that in mind and probably refer back to it often.
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    One more question, Bessie, just to clarify...if Kirk Menard states somewhere that a particular piece of information is a matter of public record, can we post that info? Even if he uses a full name? For example: let's say Kirk posts that The Duchess Of York found the body of Prince Albert...can we name the Duchess here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
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    You can link to RSO's in the area of a crime, but use discretion. Don't post photos or full names. Initials are first name plus last initial should be okay.

    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - New Rules on Sex Offenders and Rumors

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    After over a year of being a Websleuth, I have read and understood the TOS's. Being a musician and some what of a public figure in my local scene, I would be horrified to´see my name put out in some blog and or forum as a possible suspect in any sort of crime. If I owned a business and a possible customer googled my name and or business and came across a forum where I or my business were named in a Serial Killer investigation from novice internet detectivges, such as myself, I would be miffed. So before I post anything, I think to myself, how would I feel if my name pops up in some hobby crime forum. Yes I do Sleuth. And I Sleuth hard. Hundreds of minuets, at work, at home and my friends, colleuges and family think I am to involved sometimes. But I, as you , we do it for justice. We can post 10000 theories, but if one is the key to break an unsolved mystery wide open, man it is worth it. We are a team.......MOO


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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    A few examples:

    Murder in Jeff Davis Parish

    The owner of this blog has amassed a great deal of information based on MSM reporting. The same owner has dedicated a separate page for each victim. The information on the victims' pages is a recap of MSM.
    For those just beginning to follow this case, I urge you to comb through the aforementioned site and the sister forum. A number of locals as well as some investigators hired by the victims families provided some extremely useful information.

    That said, I, personally, would love to find out more about the rumors regarding the boudreaux inn ( [ame=http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3322134#post3322134]link[/ame] ). Esp, since 7 of the victims were alleged to have been caught up in a sex/drug ring bust when they were minors. Sorry, don't have a link wrt the latter but will add it once I find it.



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    I'm scouring that site now. It's a wealth of information. I would, however, respectfully suggest that anyone new to this case (that would be me!) use alot of discretion when picking and choosing what information they consider relevant. Look for posts by family members, ahlou, ea568, G8, and Kirk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    One more question, Bessie, just to clarify...if Kirk Menard states somewhere that a particular piece of information is a matter of public record, can we post that info? Even if he uses a full name? For example: let's say Kirk posts that The Duchess Of York found the body of Prince Albert...can we name the Duchess here?
    KM is a viable source of information in this case, no question. However, same rules apply. If an individual has not been named in MSM, we can't post the name here. For now I'll say it is okay to link to a post and use initials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    I would, however, respectfully suggest that anyone new to this case (that would be me!) use alot of discretion when picking and choosing what information they consider relevant. Look for posts by family members, ahlou, ea568, G8, and Kirk.

    JMO
    Agreed. Just to add, this link from the same site contains a decent synopsis of the various violent crimes in and around Jennings.



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    Another worthy resource is the series: A Serial Killer in Jennings, Louisiana, on Joey Ortega's blog talk radio show, "behind the yellow tape." Part 4 is interesting, in that Ortega interviews Jesse Ewing, who took witness statements regarding the murders, and ended up facing charges himself.



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