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    What if the blood on her shirt wasn't strictly her own? How do you destroy DNA? Bleach. And maybe you just happen to have bleach handy, because hey...someone was doing laundry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    What if the blood on her shirt wasn't strictly her own? How do you destroy DNA? Bleach. And maybe you just happen to have bleach handy, because hey...someone was doing laundry.
    Since we are " What if ing"

    What if...
    She was already worried about her life (As per statements by her family)
    She hesitated to go with this person.
    She went against her own instinct but brought a weapon, just in case.
    She used it and spilled her attackers blood.
    The bleach was poured in order (as you suggested) to destroy DNA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforever View Post
    Since we are " What if ing"

    What if...
    She was already worried about her life (As per statements by her family)
    She hesitated to go with this person.
    She went against her own instinct but brought a weapon, just in case.
    She used it and spilled her attackers blood.
    The bleach was poured in order (as you suggested) to destroy DNA!

    maybe..but why bleach it if it's easier to rip her shirt off and leave her naked/partially naked like the others, and you wouldn't get any on you or have it potentially contact ur eyes..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforever View Post
    Here's another hypothetical. Maybe she hesitated because she was wary of this person from past experience. Note: She reportedly was worried in the days prior to her death.
    Maybe she put that aside with the offer of money. She needs to take care of her son. She goes against her better judgement.
    hypothetically, he/they are le..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktgirl View Post
    Yes. Definitely a theme.

    I believe all victims were found without shoes. This is one of my biggest reasons for thinking one person is involved in all these murders (even if there's more than one murderer involved in some of them).
    The 4 victims of the Atlantic City Murders were also missing their shoes. It beleived the killer has them.

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    Does anyone know the names of the men charged, along with Muggy, for the attempted rape of Kirk Menard's daughter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CriminalMinds View Post
    maybe..but why bleach it if it's easier to rip her shirt off and leave her naked/partially naked like the others, and you wouldn't get any on you or have it potentially contact ur eyes..?
    But if the perp was planning to dump Muggy in that exact spot she was later found, he knew she would be found very fast, as it happened. So maybe he just wanted to be sure there would be no biological traces on Muggy's body and he couldn't count on decomp this time so he used bleach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforever View Post
    Since we are " What if ing"

    What if...
    She was already worried about her life (As per statements by her family)
    She hesitated to go with this person.
    She went against her own instinct but brought a weapon, just in case.
    She used it and spilled her attackers blood.
    The bleach was poured in order (as you suggested) to destroy DNA!
    LOL! I guess that's the same thing you said Kat. : ) I was tired last night!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforever View Post
    LOL! I guess that's the same thing you said Kat. : ) I was tired last night!
    You and me both, Justice! 3 days in and this case has my brain fried to a crisp.
    (Not that that's funny, but...when your mind starts unravelling, you laugh for no reason, I guess.)
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    Notably, Brown was dumped in the middle of the intersection/turn-off to the local police shooting range.

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    This sort of blatant body dump, imo, was a definite message to local law enforcement.



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    Makes me wonder if Muggy had some sort of relationship with members of LE. Informant, maybe?
    Last edited by Mountain_Kat; 01-08-2013 at 08:25 AM.
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    Again, I have to ask...is EVERYONE in this town related?! R Benoit is an instructor at B&T (where vic #5) Muggy Brown is discovered, and then, just 4 months later, (vic #6) Crystal Benoit Zeno is found murdered?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Again, I have to ask...is EVERYONE in this town related?! R Benoit is an instructor at B&T (where vic #5) Muggy Brown is discovered, and then, just 4 months later, (vic #6) Crystal Benoit Zeno is found murdered?!
    IKR This is where it would help to have a few locals on the board again.
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    Who is the HE/HIM that lived on Spencer St.?

    " Laconia's grandmother, Bessie Brown, said "well it kind of surprises me a little bit because she used to be there all the time. She used to go there and visit with HIM."
    We don't know who HE is and investigators are tight lipped about details. Bessie is ready for this to come to a close."

    bolded by me from this aticle
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    Look in the map thread for the pic I posted of the E Spencer St house and double check me on the address if you can. I know for a fact that the pic of the house is correct, because it was shown on a news clip, but google is sometimes tricky with precise addresses, ifywim.
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