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  1. #1
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    FL - Bradenton, WhtMale UP10126, 50-70, Mar'12 - Name not found

    I just read about this very interesting case. Seems intriguing to solve. No picture, but perhaps we do not need one with all the other medical clues.

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/full_report/10126

    Status Unidentified
    Case number 2012-00175
    Date found March 10, 2012 11:04
    Estimated age Adult - Pre 70
    Minimum age 50 years
    Maximum age 70 years
    Race White
    Sex Male
    Weight (pounds) 175, Measured
    Height (inches) 67, Measured
    Body Parts Inventory: All parts recovered

    Recognizable face

    Probable year of death 2012 to 2012
    Estimated postmortem interval Minutes

    Address 1 gulf of mexico
    City ft myers
    State Florida
    County Lee
    Circumstances of death
    man was found on a boat traveling from Bradenton to Key West, he asked to ride with them. He stated his name was John and he is reported to have had a "British" accent. As they were sailing he was found unresponsive. He boarded the boat while it was docked at Moss Marine in Bradenton Florida.

    Physical
    Hair color Gray or Partially Gray
    Head hair unkempt gray, stright hair measuring approximately 1 1/2 inches.
    Facial hair thick, gray to brown mustache and beard
    Left eye color Hazel
    Right eye color Hazel

    Scars and marks central mid lower neck has a scar consistent with a remote tracheostomy scar. The abdomen has a vertically oriented well healed surgical scar. The right lower abdomen has a transversely oriented lineral well healed surgical scar.

    Fingerprints submitted to local LEO, will be put through DHS also

    Clothing on body A blue short sleeved t-shirt "Crabby Bills" motto on front and back, grey fleece sweat pants, Fruit of the Loom size xl

    Comments dental will be available in the future
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 05-05-2013 at 02:35 PM.

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    Also hip replacements? Aren't those parts numbered?

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    Possible "British" accent locations

    1 Great Britain
    1.1 England
    1.2 Scotland
    1.3 Wales
    2 Ireland
    2.1 Ulster
    2.2 Connacht, Leinster, and Munster
    2.3 Irish Travellers
    3 North America
    3.1 Canada
    3.2 United States*
    3.3 West Indies and Bermuda
    4 Southern hemisphere
    4.1 Australia
    4.2 New Zealand
    4.3 South Atlantic
    4.3.1 Falkland Islands
    4.3.2 Saint Helena
    4.4 Southern Africa
    4.4.1 South Africa
    4.4.2 Zimbabwe
    4.4.3 Namibia

    (summed from Wikipedia)

    **I would assume the sailors were from the US and would thus recognize a US accent as different from other English accents.

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    To which I would add Pakistan, India, and Sri Lanka, and probably Kenya as well. All former British dependencies with a large population that speaks English extensively.
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    Considering they were in Florida, West Indies would seem a good place to start. BVI, maybe.

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    True, but I would think the Florida guys would have recognized a Caribbean accent.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by deca View Post
    Also hip replacements? Aren't those parts numbered?
    2 yrs ago a medical examiner's office in Florida tried to do a reverse search through Synthes medical products. They had the orthopedic part and the number. The company could limit the product to groups of hospitals but could not trace the serial number to a specific individual. I was surprised, as I thought that once recorded on the chart, that the company was notified who has the part for recall purposes. I am not sure if this the way it is still done (this was an older case I recall) but contacting the company with the serial numbers was a dead end for that UID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    True, but I would think the Florida guys would have recognized a Caribbean accent.
    There are a lot of Brits living in the British Virgin Islands too...there are expats living all around the Carribean. There are also people who are there as missionaries or doing work for NGO's...I have a few friends who work in Haiti or travel there frequently...of course, there are also people who travel back and forth for less than noble reasons too, I'm sure.

    I wonder if he seemed to know anything about boating? Could this guy have been a hand on a commercial vessel, or even employed on a cruise ship? Maybe he was trying to make it to another port of call to pick up work...seafaring folks tend to be gone for long stretches of time and can work or live very far from home. They might be the type to not be reported missing right away, or to go for long periods of time without contacting family.

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    Crabby Bill's seems to be local to Florida, fwiw.

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    So this guy is wearing a local chain food place shirt, no luggage and no ID. I wonder what he talked about with his "ride". He had to have an explanation for why he was going to point B.
    He sounds like he is either on the run or is confused. Possibly had been stranded and was trying to get back home? IDK, but last night I was looking at some guy missing off a cruise ship and another guy (with slight irish accent) who had disappeared in FL 10 years ago (strange business dealings). I think both are no-gos for this UID.


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    Is there a Crabby Bills in Bradenton? I know there is one in St Pete Beach and Tarpon Springs. Was one in Palm Harbor that closed a couple years ago and one on Courtney Campbell Causeway between Clearwater and Tampa but Hulk Hogan just bought it and is making something else. Crabby Bills Originated in Pinellas County
    Cindi Lou


    Some people may consider me crazy, I say I'm just inspired.

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    Cindi Lou


    Some people may consider me crazy, I say I'm just inspired.

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    A photo of the "recognizable face" would really help. I wish they would release a photo or sketch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleuthster View Post
    Circumstances fit, although there's no indication that John Morford has a British accent.

    However, the height (5'7" vs 6'0") is quite different and it's unlikely that a British person in Florida would be homeless... possible but how easy would it be to operate as an illegal immigrant? I can't see any way to be legally homeless in a foreign country - although of course someone could have dual nationality, have obtained citizenship and then had a business fail, etc...

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    Here is a John from the UK that has been missing since January of 2012 from the Bahamas.

    BATCHELOR, JOHN WILLIAM
    Male
    Date of birth :
    03/01/1940 (73 years old)
    Place of birth :
    SOUTHWELL, GREAT BRITIAN , United kingdom
    Nationality :
    Canada, United kingdom
    Language spoken :

    English
    Date of disappearance :
    15/01/2012 When 72 years old
    Place of disappearance :

    West End, Grand Bahama, Bahamas

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