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  1. #61
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    From his NAMUS page:
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    was last seen in Owasso, Ok at 1735hrs buying sudafed with JC. The two went to go buy meth in Collinsville, Ok then Jarral took JC home and dropped him off. A short while later JC called Jarral because he left a pack of sudafed in the car. Jarral stated he would be right back and never showed up."

    They bought sudafed. I think sudafed can be used to make meth. Were they going to a house to buy meth or make meth? Or maybe to bring the sudafed to someone wo was making the meth?

    I know where I live you have to swipe/have the clerk enter your ID when you buy meds with meth-making ingredients at the store. That way there's a record if someone is buying a large amount to cook meth. Maybe whoever was cooking the meth had their buyers each buy/bring a pack?
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    Let's not lose momentum here....do any of our guests know what carrier Jarral had for his cell phone?
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    i havent heard anything about who his carrier/ cell was just yet...im still checking on it. im wanting to say at&t, but i could be proved wrong? (to be determined)

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    ok i think my at&t lead went bust...another different mutual friend said they looked up his ctn and found it to be verizon?? (still developing)

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    Thanks charok-we are hanging in with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    Thanks charok-we are hanging in with you.
    thank you all once again...you guys

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    So from what I'm reading, JC is the last person to see him alive?

    JC may be a lovely person, good friend, and innocent party, but the sleuther in me has to ask: did anyone else witness JC getting dropped off at his home by Jarral?

    The car was abandoned within walking distance to JC's house and we all know a person can easily make one phone in their possession call another phone newly in their possession...

    I guess I'd just like to know has JC been cleared?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalyn View Post
    So from what I'm reading, JC is the last person to see him alive?

    JC may be a lovely person, good friend, and innocent party, but the sleuther in me has to ask: did anyone else witness JC getting dropped off at his home by Jarral?

    The car was abandoned within walking distance to JC's house and we all know a person can easily make one phone in their possession call another phone newly in their possession...

    I guess I'd just like to know has JC been cleared?
    I dont know, but at a minimum JC has a whole lot of information to share for sure with LE. There are definitely signs of transparency-it takes a lot to state flat out that your bud disappeared after you and he went to buy drugs.
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    i would love to know as well has jc been cleared or not? is he being forthcoming or not. i too wonder if there is any one else who would confirm whether jc was dropped off by jarral ( eg. jc girlfriend, if he has one? roomate? again if there is a roomate or not? other friends,ect) during the time in ? or not? and the unknown variable to me at least is where is jc's house??? is it in tulsa? or one of the surrounding areas, eg, broken arrow, sand springs,ect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charok View Post
    i would love to know as well has jc been cleared or not? is he being forthcoming or not. i too wonder if there is any one else who would confirm whether jc was dropped off by jarral ( eg. jc girlfriend, if he has one? roomate? again if there is a roomate or not? other friends,ect) during the time in ? or not? and the unknown variable to me at least is where is jc's house??? is it in tulsa? or one of the surrounding areas, eg, broken arrow, sand springs,ect?
    charok, if you can reach out to any locals who might want to help us (you included) fill in some pieces of this investigation, I think that would be tremendous.

    I think this case is solveable, fwiw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    I dont know, but at a minimum JC has a whole lot of information to share for sure with LE. There are definitely signs of transparency-it take a lot to state flat out that your bud disappeared after you and he went to buy drugs.
    Very true. Only ... I wonder if the police tracked BACKWARDS to JC from the pharmacy after Jarral's (and presumably JC's) names came up together doing back to back purchases of sudafed. I think it's possible police tracked JC down (possibly by following Jarrel's last credit card transactions--at the pharmacy) and convinced him to be transparent between evidence of the guys having to sign/show ID for sudafed in the pharmacy and possibly video the pharmacy might have. Perhaps JC has a drug history with police? They could put the two and two together with the sudafed buy?

    Also, admitting it all revolved around a drug buy throws other possible bad guys into the mix and would take some focus off the last guy to see him/was seen with...

    All just speculation, and maybe far-fetched!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charok View Post
    i would love to know as well has jc been cleared or not? is he being forthcoming or not. i too wonder if there is any one else who would confirm whether jc was dropped off by jarral ( eg. jc girlfriend, if he has one? roomate? again if there is a roomate or not? other friends,ect) during the time in ? or not? and the unknown variable to me at least is where is jc's house??? is it in tulsa? or one of the surrounding areas, eg, broken arrow, sand springs,ect?
    ahh nevermind i re read that circumstances and indeed car found 3 miles south of JC house...so now was there anyone at jc house that can verify whether he got dropped off by jarral or if jc left ( ex after he made the call to have jarral come back?)

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    I think we might also explore the possibility that Jarral abandoned his vehicle himself because of some kind of physical or mental distress. I was looking at the area via Google Earth. It looks like if it were night time, it might be hard to get around in that terrain.

    Is it thick woods, or scrub type brush...does anyone know? I remember reading or hearing from charok that LE went out on horseback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    charok, if you can reach out to any locals who might want to help us (you included) fill in some pieces of this investigation, I think that would be tremendous.

    I think this case is solveable, fwiw.
    that would be nice but alas i do not have any friends ( that i havent asked already) in the area, esp those that knew or talked to jarral recently , let alone jc/even know jc..but doesnt mean i havent put my feelers up(away) either LOL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by charok View Post
    ahh nevermind i re read that circumstances and indeed car found 3 miles south of JC house...so now was there anyone at jc house that can verify whether he got dropped off by jarral or if jc left ( ex after he made the call to have jarral come back?)
    Yeah...when I read that I thought it could be possible that JC actually left Jarral's car there and walked home.

    Just one theory/possibilty.

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