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    Gay community hails Foster's halting Globes speech

    http://www.centurylink.net/news/read...&cps=0&lang=en

    NEW YORK (AP) — Was it a proud revelation, or an impassioned case for privacy? A coming-out speech, or a why-SHOULD-I-come-out speech? Too little and too late, or just enough?

    Jodie Foster's rambling, fascinating and intensely personal remarks at the Golden Globes were not merely the watercooler moment of the ceremony. They were a big moment for the gay community, and many advocates — though not all — were cheering her on Monday for finally referring publicly to her sexual orientation, albeit in her own particular way.

    While some were criticizing the actress for not uttering the words "gay" or "lesbian," and for waiting decades to come out at all, others were saying she deserved to come out in any way she chose, and with any words she happened to favor.

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    "The further we (as the human race) grow away from the natural world, the quieter the natural world becomes and the more pathological we become as a culture."........Bernie Krause

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    I am happy for Jodie. She can choose to announce things (or not announce) anyway she likes.

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    Jodie et al should not have to utter the words, gay or lesbian to anyone. Like Jovi Girl said - she can announce any which way she wants to

    Do you disclose heterosexual to your world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SallyLu View Post
    Jodie et al should not have to utter the words, gay or lesbian to anyone. Like Jovi Girl said - she can announce any which way she wants to

    Do you disclose heterosexual to your world?
    Exactly! That's what I said to a prejudiced relative who accused my son of choosing to be gay...I asked him, did you choose to be heterosexual? He shut up then.


    "The further we (as the human race) grow away from the natural world, the quieter the natural world becomes and the more pathological we become as a culture."........Bernie Krause

    The citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy—a policy worthy of imitation......which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance.......George Washington

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    Jodie Foster's sexuality has been common knowledge for decades, despite her decision to remain the very private person she has always been. Why does she owe ANYONE, especially Hollywood's "gay mafia," some sort of public declaration? Her under-the-radar, scandal-free existence has been a breath of fresh air in an industry polluted with endless sex-and-drug idiocy and excess. When Melissa Etheridge spoke out about her homosexuality back in the '90s, it was big news, but in 2013, "outing" someone has no political or social meaning; it is more like bullying.
    George Eliot: "We constantly ask for God's mercy while showing none ourselves..."

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    Bless you and thank you Jodie.

    Thank you for choosing to disclose your orientation. There are certainly many young people who may benefit from your choice to disclose.

    And bless you for choosing to do it defiantly manner as in "why do I have to do this, and exactly what business is it of yours anyway?"

    Because at the end of the day it's no one's concern but yours and who you chose to love. I am hoping for the day when speculation about anyone's orientation is unneeded because everyone in the LBGTQ community is accepted and loved because of the content of their character, their spirit, and their heart.

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SallyLu View Post
    Jodie et al should not have to utter the words, gay or lesbian to anyone. Like Jovi Girl said - she can announce any which way she wants to

    Do you disclose heterosexual to your world?
    Yes, you do, actually. In at least a thousand ways, including every time you mention your opposite-sex spouse, fiance, boyfriend or girlfriend. In states without gay marriage, you advertise your heterosexuality every time you talk about your dream wedding, etc. and so forth.

    Now, personally, I haven't cared about Jodie Foster's private life since, well, forever. But let's don't pretend that heterosexuals don't do a lot of "flaunting".

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    Quote Originally Posted by annmarie62 View Post
    Jodie Foster's sexuality has been common knowledge for decades, despite her decision to remain the very private person she has always been. Why does she owe ANYONE, especially Hollywood's "gay mafia," some sort of public declaration? Her under-the-radar, scandal-free existence has been a breath of fresh air in an industry polluted with endless sex-and-drug idiocy and excess. When Melissa Etheridge spoke out about her homosexuality back in the '90s, it was big news, but in 2013, "outing" someone has no political or social meaning; it is more like bullying.
    It can't be both: either it HAS political and social meaning, or it is no big deal and, therefore, not bullying.

    And what does the so-called "gay mafia" have to do with it? Who are the members and how do I sign up for benefits?

    Just sayin'...

    For the record, I'd like to know who polled the "gay community" and quoted it in the original link? On sites I frequent that have a lot of gay posters, people were pretty annoyed with Foster's equivocation. "Either say it or don't" was the most common response.

    And it's not like she didn't know she'd be giving an acceptance speech.

    Of course, bringing noted homophobe, abuser and anti-Semite Mel Gibson as your date doesn't help.

    Personally, I forgot the show was on and didn't see it. And I really don't care at this late date in Foster's (and my own) life. I've never felt that Foster put a lot of effort into appearing to be heterosexual for the benefit of the press, so I didn't think she was a hypocrite for valuing her privacy.

    But I question whether the "gay community" is applauding much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reader View Post
    Exactly! That's what I said to a prejudiced relative who accused my son of choosing to be gay...I asked him, did you choose to be heterosexual? He shut up then.
    With respect, "choosing" sexual orientation is a completely different issue. And it's a myth, of course, a propaganda ploy by the homophobic right.

    In contrast, "coming out" is a choice. And the idea that gay people need to stand up and be counted is a political position, one with which I agree vehemently in terms of most people.

    When it comes to individuals, however, I do understand that coming out can seem like exchanging one lie ("I am straight.") for another ("I am all the stereotypes that attach to the word 'gay'.").

    And I try not to judge too harshly except in cases of rank hypocrisy. As I wrote above, I have never felt Foster was such a case.



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