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    I've posted this in the other major thread, but though I'd also post it here. Things I like about the cross examination, Part 1:

    1) Around 20:59, JA is hemming and hawwing about the time and being "monogamous," and Martinez says, "Right around the time you killed him..." and JA seems deflated.

    2) 20:00-24:00 - Martinez reveals JA's double standard


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    Jodi Arias Trial Day 21 Cross Examination Part 1 Beginning: Double Standards

    JM: Ma'am take a look at exhibit 413. You recognize that exhibit, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And that's a picture of you, correct?
    JA: yes
    JM: and the other one is a picture of your dumb sister, Angela, correct?
    JA: That's my sister, she's not dumb.
    JM: Well, do you remember having a conversation with Travis Alexander back on May 10 of 2008?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And do you remember that you tape-recorded that conversation?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And during that conversation isn't it true that you said I honestly think, talking about Angela, she's a little bit dumb. You said that, right?
    JA: Yes, I called her dumb and stupid
    JM: Did I ask you whether or not you called her stupid ma'am?
    JA: No
    JM: I asked you whether or not you called her dumb, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Now take a look at exhibit 452. Do you recognize the two people there?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And this photograph was taken by your camera, correct?
    JA: It looks like it.
    JM: Well, when you say it looks like it, isn't it part of the same photographs that are involved in exhibit 413?
    JA: Um, I think it is
    JM: well exhibit number 413 that was taken on May 10 (bring it in) of 2008, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and this photograph here, exhibit number 413, features the color of your hair doesn't it?
    JA: And exhibit 452 also features the color of your hair doesn't it?
    JA: Yes, a different part of my hair
    JM: and this was taken sometime in May of 2008, correct
    JA: this exhibit?
    JM: No, exhibit 452
    JA: I only remember it was the spring, I think
    JM: of 2008
    JA: yes

    [Move for the admission of 452
    Objection, lack of foundation. Counsel approach
    452 is admitted]

    JM: Ma'am take a look at the back of exhibit 452 to see the date on that. Does that date refresh your recollection as to when this photograph was taken?
    JA: yes
    JM: and what date was this photograph taken
    JA: 5 days later the 15th of May, 2008
    JM: And with regard to this photograph, it also features you and it also features your sister the one that you also said was stupid, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Now with regard to this name calling, one of the things that we heard through a text message was that you were upset at somepoint because Mr. Alexander said that you were going to turn out like your mother, or you were acting like your mother, do you remember that text message, ma'am?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And in that text message there was this indication that somehow he was saying something bad about your mother
    JA: Yes
    JM: And when you testified, you seemed to get pretty upset about that, right?
    JA: I remember getting emotional
    JM: and you indicated that you loved your mother
    JA: I do love my mother, yes
    JM: did you or did you not indicate that you loved your mother, I'm not asking you if you love your mother, I'm asking you if you indicated it.
    JA: I don't remember
    JM: Do you have problems with your memory, ma'am
    JA: Sometimes
    JM: So you can tell us, for example what kind coffee you bought at Starbucks back on June 3, 2008 , but you can't tell us what you said yesterday or the day before
    JA: I always have the same drink at Starbucks
    JM: And you can tell us, for example, what type of sex you had with Mr. Alexander many years ago, but your having trouble telling us what you said a couple days ago
    JA: when I'm under stress, yeah, it effects my memory
    JM: I thought you said that your relationship with Mr. Alexander was very stressful
    JA: some of the sex wasn't
    JM: pardon
    JA: some of the sex wasn't
    JM: so you did enjoy the sex then , is that what you're telling me?
    JA: at times I did.
    JM: but you did indicate at some point that, as part of your examination also that, Mr. Alexander at some point said something about your grandparents also. Do you remember telling us that?
    JA: my grandfather
    JM: right, that he made some perjorative comment, or some bad comment about him, right?
    JA: yes his name
    JM: Right and one of the things that seems to be coming out here is that you have a double standard with regard to making comments about people, don't you
    JA: yes I do
    objection, overruled
    JA: I do
    JM: and in fact it's okay for you to make comments about, for example, Angela to call her dumb and stupid, right
    JA: no,
    JM: well you said it right
    JA: I did
    JM: and we heard on the telephone conversation that you were laughing when you said that, right?
    JA: it was sentimental, kind of
    JM: you were laughing, you weren't upset when you said it, were you?
    JA: no
    JM: and then when Mr. Alexander says something like you're going to be like your mother, that's when you get emotional and upset, right?
    JA: I did
    JM: and you get upset when he says something about your grandfather, right?
    JA: that night I was upset
    JM: well you did get upset, yes or no
    JA: no because I already was upset
    JM: Well, you didn't get upset on the witness stand when you told us about that?

    JA: oh yeah on the witness stand, certainly

    JM: and it's okay to say these things unless it's Mr. Alexander that's saying them, right? You're applying a different standard to Mr. Alexander, correct, yes or no?
    JA: No

    Peeping
    JM: ma'am one of the other things that we know regarding this standard applying, yesterday in fact
    you told us back in August of 2007 you went to Mr. Alexander's house, do you remember telling us that?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And do you remember telling as at that time, you were broken up with Mr. Alexander
    JA: Yes I had broken up with him
    JM: well you had broken up with him or he had broken up with you, one or the other, correct?
    JA: I broke up with him about a month before
    JM: and you broke up with him on June 29, 2007, but you felt that it was okay for you to go over to his house in August 2007 didn't you?
    JA: after he told me to
    JM: yes or no, did you feel it was okay to go over to his house?
    JA: I said yes
    JM: and when you went over to his house you indicated that you knocked or you did something and that nobody came to the door right?
    JA: I went over to his house a lot of times in August so it depends on the incident your refering to
    JM: Ma'am we're talking about the incident you told us about yesterday related to the killing do you not remember that
    JA: I did not knock
    JM: And you did go over there and at some point you started to peep in to the house, didn't you?
    JA: Yes
    JM: so that means that you don't know if you knocked then, right?
    JA: I did not knock I know I did not
    JM: So you went around the back to look, right
    JA: I went around the back to get in
    JM: You went around the back then, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: And when you went around the back, you're telling us you went around the back to get in, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: but when you got to the back to get in, you started to look at what was going on, right?
    JA: I glanced in as I was walking to the sliding glass door
    JM: You did walk in and you looked at what was going on,right?
    JA: I did not walk in
    JM: then you were outside looking in'
    you never went in, right
    No I ran out of the backyard
    You never went in, right, yes or no?
    JA: I said no
    JM: and when you looked you saw something that upset you, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: you saw mr alexander,right
    JA: I didn't know if it was him at first, but yes
    JM: yes or no, did you see him during that encounter?
    Objection she's answered the question, overruled, answer the question.
    JA: I did, I said no
    JM: pardon
    JA: I didn't know it was him at first
    JM: You didn't see him when you were there that night?
    JA: I did afterward, yes
    JM: That night Ma'am, that night, did you see Mr. Alexander inside that house, yes or no
    JA: Yes
    JM: and inside that house there was a female
    JA: Yes
    JM: What's the name of that female?
    JA: He didn't tell me her name
    JM: Did I ask you if he told you the name?
    JA: No
    JM: so did you recognize her
    JA: no, I did not
    JM: he was there with a female, you were able to see her face
    JA: yes, sort of
    JM: well yes and sort of means two different thing
    JA: part of it was shadowed by the tv behind her
    Judge, she's not answering my questions. Judge: answer only the question you are asked.
    JA: Ok
    JM: could you see her face, yes or no
    JA: part of it
    JM: But you were able to see that they were making out, right
    JA: oh yeah they were
    JM: So is that a yes, they were making out, right
    JA: mmm hmm,
    JM: is that a yes
    JA: Yes
    JM: and part of what you also saw was that her brassiere was off
    JA: I didn't see that I just saw her re-hook her bra
    JA: I didn't see it all the way off
    JM: You indicated that you saw her hooking the brassiere back on, right
    JA: she was rehooking it
    JM: so you did tell us that yesterday, right
    JA: yes
    JM: So that means that at least her bra was unhooked, right?
    JA: it was unhooked
    JM: So you stood there and they stood up in reaction to something that you did, is that what you're telling us
    JA: No
    JM: they didn't see you,
    JA: they didn't see me
    JM: so what happened is that you were actually watching what they were doing?
    JA: Briefly, yes
    JM: did I ask you for how long, ma'am?
    JA: No
    JM: I asked you if you stood there and watched them, right
    JA: no
    JM: you didn't stand there and watch them
    JA: no, I didn't stand there, I saw it and then I turned and ran out of the backyard.
    JM: but you saw them enough to know they were kissing, right
    JA: um, yes
    JM: you used the term making out, didn't you yesterday
    JA: yes
    JM: You were there long enough to see that one of the individuals was Mr. Alexander not his roommate
    JA: yes
    JM: you were able to see there was a female, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: you saw the bra was unhooked, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: And the lights weren't on, right
    JA: there was a light
    JM: Well didn't you indicate it was like a TV kind of light
    JA: that light
    JM: Yes, so there was no light there was a television that was on
    JA: that's light
    JM: ma'am was it a light or was it a television that was on,
    JA: it was light from a television screen
    JM: So are you saying that it was a television that was on then
    JA: Yes
    JM: and from that light you were able to make all this out, correct
    JA: yes
    JM: No other light was on
    JA: Not that I recall
    JM: And then you decided to leave
    JA: Yes
    JM: And this was the point you were living very close to Mr. Alexander, right
    JA: No
    JM: Well, you were living within 10 miles of him weren't you?
    JA: I was living between greenfield and Broadway, I don't know the length
    JM: How long would it take you to drive it
    JA: About 15 minutes depending on traffic
    JM: And after you saw this one of the things you did was that you took off, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: And then you thought about it, right
    JA: Of course
    JM: And you felt strongly enough about this that the next day you called your father, right?
    JA: I called my parents' house, my father answered
    JM: Yes or no, you spoke to your father?
    JA: I did speak to him
    JM: And you were crying, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you were upset about this, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you told him why you were upset, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: I thought you said before that you didn't discuss these issues involving you and Mr. Alexander?
    JA: not typically
    JM: Not typically, you said you didn't yesterday and the days before, remember telling us that?
    JA: the violence, yes
    JM: Oh, I see. But you did discuss the fact that you saw him kissing with somebody else with your father, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And as a result of that you decided to go talk to Mr. Alexander about it, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: What in the world gave you the right to go talk to an ex-boyfriend with whom, according to you, you'd broken up with. What right do you have to do that?
    KN: objection, Judge, argumentative. Judge: Sustained
    JM: Ma'am, you knew that you could go and talk to him about that?
    JA: Of course
    JM: Why, weren't you broken up?
    JA: Yes

    JM: You were being territorial about him weren't you?
    JA: No
    JM: oh you weren't, then why in the world would you even care what he was doing?
    JA: Because he was trying to court me back
    JM: That's you telling us that he was trying to court you back, if he was trying to court you back you could have walked away at that point, couldn't you?
    JA: Yeah, I could have at any time, I guess
    JM: Well, at that point you could have walked away, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You didn't need him for his paycheck, right, cause he wasn't giving you money.
    JA: He was giving me money
    JM: Well that was for some work, but you could have gotten other work, right
    JA: I guess I could have looked
    JM: You guess? You worked at other places, you know you could have gotten other work, couldn't you?
    JA: not in August it's a very slow season for restaurants
    JM: So you're saying that you were restricted in only getting work at restaurants, that there's no other kind of work that you could get.
    JA: Restaurants is
    JM: Yes or no?
    JA: I guess that would be no, but I hadn't thought about it.
    JM: So thenin addition to that, you were living in your own place, right?
    JA: No
    JM: Well, you were living with Mr. Alexander?
    JA: No
    JM: You were living elsewhere, weren't you?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You were living in another place, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: Where you were paying rent, right?
    JA: No
    JM: You weren't paying any rent at all?
    JA: Not with Rachell
    JM: So, in other words it was even better for you, you didn't have to worry about having to pay the rent then, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: And so you could have just left that situation alone, yet you decided to confront him anyway, right?
    JA: Of course.
    JM: and the reason that you did it is because you were jealous, right?
    JA: No
    JM: and you did talk to hinm about this issue, correct.
    JA: Yes
    JM: And he got upset with you, right?
    JA: No
    JM: he didn't get upset and scream and run upstairs isn't that what you told us yesterday?
    JA: Yes, he did
    JM: So, ma'am to go back to this issue involving the text messages, one of the things that you told us was that there was a text message you sent to somebody by the name of Steve, Steve Carroll, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And that it was a two part text message, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And this two part text message, one part ended up going to Mr. Alexander, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And that he got upset about it right,
    JA: very yes
    JM: And after he got upset about it, one of the things he wanted was to see the second part of this text message, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And so you lied to him at that point, right?
    JA: No
    JM: Well, you fabricated a second text message didn't you?
    JA: After that point, yes.
    JM: So, are you telling me that fabricating a text message is not a lie?
    JA: No, I'm not saying that
    JM: So you did lie to him, Mr. Alexander, right?
    KN: Objection, asked and answered.
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: Um, Yes and no
    JM: so you think that sending him that text message and telling him this is the second part of the text message that that's not a lie even though you fabricated it?
    JA: That part was the lie
    JM: And so then you were asked the question How did that make you feel when Mr. Alexander was
    sending these text messages involving Mr. Carrol? Do you remember that line of questioning?
    JA: Yes
    JM: We're applying a different standard then, right?
    KN: Objection, argumentative
    Judge: Sustained
    JM: With regard to this issue of how you feel, isn't that the same way you felt when you were peeping in hi window in August of 2007? Isn't that the same kind of feeling you were having?
    JA: the same as what
    JM: As the one involving Steve Carrol
    JA: I don't know
    JM: you were mad at Mr. Alexander both times
    JA: I wasn't mad at Alexander
    JM: You weren't mad at him, but you were upset with him.
    JA: what time
    JM: either time
    JA: Steve Carroll no, the girl from phoenix, yes.
    JM: And it just seems that it's okay for you to lie to him about a guy, but when it comes to him being with some other girl, you decide to confront him, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And one of the other things that you told us yesterday, was that you were monogamous with Mr. Alexander, right?
    JA: Sexually, monogamous, yes
    JM: Ma'am, you told us you were monogamous and that's what monogamous means, sexual, doesn't it?
    JA: I think it means more than that, sometimes.
    JM: Well, in this case monogamous means sexual doesn't it?
    KN: Objection,
    Judge: restate the question
    JM: When you say monogamous it means sexual, doesn't it?
    JA: which time
    JM: The time that we're talking about right now., involving Mr. Alexander, no other time.
    JA: Our relationship evolved so
    JM: I'm not asking you if it evolved, at the end, right when you killed him, you indicated that you were monogamous with him, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And at that time, you then left the killing scene if you will and you went up to Utah, right?
    JA: Yes.
    JM: And when you went up to Utah, you ended up with someone named Ryan Burns, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you ended up in his bed, right?
    JA: I think it was a love sac
    JM: Ok, and with regard to that, at that point, according to you Mr. Alexander still wasn't dead, was he?
    JA: wasn't discussed.
    JM: Well did I ask you whether or not you discussed it with Mr. Burns? I didn't, did I?
    JA: I wasn't talking about Mr. Burns.
    JM: I'm asking you at that time, didn't you tell us yesterday at the time that you went up to Utah, you weren't sure if he was dead, do you remember telling us that?
    JA: Not in Utah from the Hoover Dam or right before the checkpoint.
    JM: So, when did you konw that he was dead, tell me that.
    JA: I got confimation of it on June 10, but
    JM: So, okay if you got confimation on June 10th you met with Mr. Burns before June. 10th didn't you?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You met him on the 5th, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: so at that point, you didn't know , according to your own story, that Mr. Alexander was dead, right?
    JA: I guess I knew, I didn't Iwasn't accepting it
    JM: you either knew or you didn't, which one is it ma'am? Make up your mind please.
    KN: Objection, asked and answered.
    Judge: Ask another question.
    JM: Did you know he was dead when you and Mr. Burns were kissing?
    KN: Objection, asked and answered.
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: Um, yeah I think
    JM: You think you did or you weren't sure about it
    JA: I wasn't really in my own mind, I was out of my mind, sorta.
    JM: so if you didn't think he was dead, that portion of you didn't think he was dead, then it's okay for you at that point, if you didn't think he was dead to sort of roll around with Mr. Alexander, with Mr.Burns and that was okay, right?
    JA: I'm single.
    JM: Just like he was in August 8th in August of 2007
    JA: Yes
    JM: So it's okay for you, then it should be okay for him, right?
    JA: It was okay.
    JM: Then why did you confront him the next day if it was okay?
    JA: Cause he was still courting me, I wanted to know where I stood.
    JM: And because of your definition of courting you, you felt you deserved an explanation, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: Hadn't you just had intercourse with Mr. Alexander on the 4th of June?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And if he was still alive, he would have deserved an explanation then for you being with Mr. Burns, right?
    JA: no
    JM: Well, I mean that's you're applying a different standard here, aren't you?
    JA: No
    JM: You're saying that its okay for you to confront him about the situation, but not okay for Mr. Alexander to confront you, right?
    JA: if he wanted to confront me, it would have been okay.


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    Jodi Arias Trial Day 21 Cross Examination Part 1: Bent Finger

    (24:15)
    JM: Ma'am with regard to the exhibit number 452, it does show you, right, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and it shows Angela, correct
    JA: Yes
    JM: It shows something else on there, doesn't it? Doesn't it show your hand?
    JA: Yes
    JM: In fact let me show you another close-up of that hand.
    KN: I'm gonna object
    Judge: Please approach

    (25:58)
    JM: Exhibit 453 is a closeup of your hand, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and you can also see the jewelry around your sister's neck?
    JA: Yes, yes
    JM: And you previously have told us about exhibit 452 and when it was taken and who's in that photograph, right.
    JA: Yes
    JM: I move for the admission of exhibit 453.
    KM: no objections

    JM: And ma'am this was also taken, according to your testimony, on May 15, let's take a look at that, or 2008. That's a picture of your left hand, isn't it?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and it shows your ring finger right?
    JA: yes
    JM: Do you remember that on January 22nd of 2008 you and Mr. Alexander were involved in some sort of violent encounter. Do you remember telling us about that?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you told us that during that encounter, he threw you down. Do you remember that?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And while you were down that he kicked you, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And when he kicked you, ma'am one of the things that happened is that you put up your left hand, do you remember telling us that?
    JA: Yeah, both hends.
    JM: Well, you told us specifically about your left hand, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And when you went to put up your left hand, according to you, he kicked you and he damaged the ring finger on your left hand, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and in fact you even held it up for us, didn't you?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And it was crooked when you showed it to us, wasn't it?
    JA: It's bent
    JM: It's bent
    JA: Yes
    JM: Show us how bent it is again ma'am.
    (Jodie hold up hand 27:46)
    JM: Higher, so we can see it sideways. Ma'am if he caused that damage on January 22, 2008 that would have been before this picture we have here which is exhibit number 453 it would have been about, 5 months before that?
    JA: It was before that
    JM: Five months, right?
    JA: 4
    JM: Four months, then, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You don't have a bent finger here in exhibit 453, do you?
    JA: My finger is bent there.
    JM: You're saying that your finger is bent there?
    JA: Yes, just the
    Hold u your finger again.
    When my finger is straightened
    Hold up your finger again. Sideways so we can also see it.
    JA: When my fingers are straightened this one stick up
    JM: That's what it looks like, your finger, and your saying that happened on January 22nd 2008, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Ma'am one of the other things involving this particular finger, it seems to have had it's run, if you will, of bad things happen to it, right?
    JA: This finger?
    JM: Yes, the left ring finger
    JA: I don't know
    JM: Well, you talked to Ryan Burns about it, didn't you
    JA: Yes
    JM: and you told him that that finger, the left ring finger had been damaged, injured, didn't you?
    JA: I don't know if it was the left.
    JM: You don't remember telling him it was the left ring finger?
    JA: No

    (29:12)
    JM: Again, do you have a problem with your memory?
    JA: Occasionaly
    JM: And so some of the things that you've told us about other things in the past, you may have also had problems with your memory then, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And so whatever you told us in the past, is somewhat suspect then, because your memory may be lacking.
    KN: Objection, argumentative
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: I only told things that I remember clearly, that are crystallized in my mind.
    JM: With regard to Mr. Burns, you do remember who he was, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and you do remember that you went over to West Jordan to meet him, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you do remember that you did meet him that Thursday and it was sometime around 11:00 in the morning?
    JA: I think so yeah
    JM: And when you met him you decided to go somewhere to a restaurant for a business meeting, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And during that time didn't you have a bandage on your finger?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And it was your left finger wasn't it?
    JA: No
    JM: It was your right finger then, right. Is that what you're saying, it was your right finger?
    JA: It was two right fingers
    JM: So it was your right finger then, right? Ma'am, are you sure that it was your right finger?
    JA: It was two,
    JM: Pardon?
    JA: two right fingers.
    (30:30)

    JM: Do you remember then that you had a conversation with Det. Flores about this issue regarding your finger?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And do you remember that that was on July 16th of 2008?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and then you remember that you told him that on June 4th you had been over at Mr. Alexander's home, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and you told him that you were over at Mr. Alexander's home and some a guy and a girl had come in, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And that whatever happened on June 4th, you told Det. Flores that it was your left finger that had been damaged. Do you remember that?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So you did tell that to the detective that it happened on June 4th, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Does that then refresh your recollection in any way so that we know what we're talking about
    [Sidebar, close-up of Jodi's finger still on the screen]

    (Orange jumpsuit Interrogation video ďMy finger isn't the same........ I'm pretty sure she scratches me a lotĒ)
    (37:54)

    JM: That tape, that videotape, right
    JA: yes
    JM: And that's you having a conversation discussing the left ring-finger, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and you demonstrated to Det. Flores that left ring-finger, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and you told him that this woman during this attack on June 4, 2008 cut you right there, didn't you?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you showed him and the finger, if we look at it there, had the same aspect, or the same angle to it that your finger does now, doesn't it?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Ma'am the injury to your finger happened on June 4th, 2008 not January 22nd, 2008, didn't it?
    JA: That's not correct.

    JM: Ma'am with regard to the story involving this particular issue you told us that it happened on January 22nd of 2008, right?
    JA: Which issue?
    JM: The left ring-finger
    JA: Yes
    JM: You then discussed it, there was this issue with Ryan Burns, right?
    JA: which issue?
    JM: The cut finger
    JA: The cut finger, yes. Two fingers
    JM: And then Junly 16th of 2008 you discussed it with Det. Flores, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: One of the things you told Mr. Burns was that you cut it at Margaritaville while you were working there, right?
    JA: No, I did not say that
    JM: You never told him that?
    JA: I said at work.
    JM: So you never told him Margaritaville
    JA: no he said that
    JM: right but you never told him that you cut it at Margaritaville, right ?
    JA: no
    JM: you told him you cut it at work, right ?
    JA: yes
    JM: and then when you spoke to Detective Flores, you gave him a different story. You didn't say that you cut it at work you told him that it was cut some other way, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And then you testified about it in this court, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and you gave us another story about how this happened, right?
    JA: No
    JM: Well, do you remember that you testified you were at Mr. Alexander's home on June 4, 2008 at the sink, do you remember telling us that?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and do you remember telling us that you dropped a glass in Mr. Alexander's house?
    JA: June 4th
    JM: Whatever date you were there at Mr. Alexander's house
    JA: I broke more than one glass at his house.
    JM: Ma'am to you remember testifying yesterday about how how you suffered this injury to your finger, yes or no?
    JA: Not this finger
    JM: No, do you remember testifying that, involving you finger, your left ring-finger in fact, that that was cut when you dropped a glass when you were at Mr. Alexander's house on the day that you killed him?
    JA: I did not indicate my left finger, I said finger
    JM: So you're saying it was your right finger that you cut at Mr. Alexander's house, right?
    JA: It was my right finger, yes
    JM: So throughout this whole thing,, Mr. Burns, when he indicated what finger it was, he was mistaken, well not he was mistaken, you're saying that you never told Mr. Burns that it was the right finger that you cut, right?
    JA: We didn't discuss which hand.
    JM: OK, so you never indicated to him in any way, shape, or form that it was the right finger?
    KN: Objection
    Judge: Sustained


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    Jodi Arias Trial Day 21 Cross Examination Part 1: Journal

    (41:35) JOURNAL
    JM: and this issue of the 22nd of January 22nd, when you injured, when you say that you were injured. You kept a journal, didn't you? You kept a journal didn't you?
    JA: Yes, I did
    JM: And you didn't write in it all the time, but you wrote in it some of the time, right?
    JA: Frequently, yes
    JM: Frequently. And you were writing about what was going on in your life back in January of 2008, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you were writing about things that were significant to you, right?
    JA: Some things
    JM: Right, and in fact with regard to this particular journal, you knew that you could almost right anything you wanted in it because it was going to stay private, right?
    JA: NO
    JM: Well, ma'am let me show you what is marked as an exhibit..

    (43:35)
    JM: I'm showing you exhibit 242.001. Recognize it?
    JA: Yes I do
    JM: And that's your journal, right
    JA: Sure is
    JM: Let me have that, back. Take a look at the entry, just read it to yourself, on Sunday, August 26 of 07.
    JA: The whole entry?
    JM: Just read the first five lines, six lines.
    JA: Yes
    JM: You wrote that, write?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Take a look at exhibit number 455. Is this a true and accurate copy of those lines, fivor or six lines?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You wrote that back on August 26, of '07, right
    JA: yes
    JM: Let me have that back please. Move for the admission of exhibit 455.
    At sidebar

    (51:31)
    Judge: 455 is admitted
    JM: take a look at this entry from August 26, 2007 and when you're done reading it let us know
    (Jodi thoroughly reading journal)
    (53:44)
    JA: Just this one entry
    JM: Yes, just that one entry of August 26, 2007. I know you have two entries, but the first entry is the one we're talking about.
    JA: Yeah it looks like I have three on that day.
    JM: Have you read the first entry that involves this particular snipper?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Thank you
    KN: Objection...before she answeres questions.
    Judge: Overruled
    JM: This journal, and your journals, were meant to be private, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: And that's what it says there: Well I guess it's a good thing that nobody else read this because I write right now that I love TVA so completely that I don't know anyway else to be. Correct, that's what it says?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Do you remember when we started talking this morning that we talked about an incident where you went over to his house?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and this was the incident that you referenced involving the killing, right. That it went through your head.
    JA: Umm, are you talking about the incident in August 2007?
    JM: Right, exactly.
    JA: Yes
    JM: That incident in August 2007 where you went over and peeped inside o his house happened before this entry here of Sunday Aug 26, 2007.
    KN: Objection,... her testimony by saying peep
    Judge: what was the last thing you said
    KN: by saying peep
    Judge: Restate your question
    JM: When you looked inside the house?
    JA: yes it did happen before this entry
    JM: and so really the reason why you confronted Mr. Alexander was not because he owed you an explanation or anything like that. The reason you confroted him back in August of 2007 was because you were in love with him and you didn't want to let him go.
    KN: Objection, argumentative
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: that not right..but I was in love with him.
    JM: yes, you did right this didn't you
    JA: Yes
    JM: Now, you kept more than one journal. You kept another one, right
    JA: Umm, I kept one journal at a time.
    JM: Let's take a look at another journal.
    KN: Objection
    At sidebar

    (58:10)
    JM: Ma'am, take a look at exhibit 242.002. You recognize it,right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Why don't you open it up and look through it. (she looks) That's your writing throughout that whole journal, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: If I I could have that back. There is an entry for Thursday, January 24th, 2008, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Why don't you just take a look at it. See that?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Let me mark another exhibit for you. Take a look at exhibit 456. And with the exhibit that you have in front of you, that's the whole entry for January 24th, 2008, correct?
    JA: Um, I believe it is for the single one, yes
    JM: There are other entries but that is the complete entry for that one, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: because it's written in blue ink
    JA: Yes
    JM: and the others are written in black ink.
    JA: yes, the one following.
    JM: I move for the admission of exhibit number 456.
    KN: can we approach?
    Judge: Yes
    (1:02:54)
    JM: Ma'am we're gonna take a look at exhibit number 242.02 we talked about the entry of January 24th of 2009. Take a look at this journal and isn't true that the previous in terms of chronological time, that the prevoious entry is on January 20th of 2008, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So there's a gap of four days between the time you wrote on January 20th and on January 24th 2008, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: Nothing in between, correct?
    JA: Not in the journal
    JM: I'm asking about the journal, ma'am.
    JA: That's correct.
    JM: Is there anything else in front of you?
    KN: Asked and answered, your honor and argumentative
    Judge: Sustained
    JM: In the journal ma'am there are no other entries between January 20th of 2008 and January 24th of 2008, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: If we then take a look at exhibit 456 let's see what you wrote on Thursday, January 24th of 2008.
    You wrote: ďI haven't written because there has been nothing noteworthy to report.Ē correct?
    JA: Yes.
    (also on the exhibit: I turned down 4 offers for a date this Saturday Friday night 4 separate events. That's mildly amusing. Instead I'm going to a dinner at Brother Porter's house. It's for a new ward members. I'm tempted to skip out)
    JM: Didn't you tell aus involving the finger that this injury to your left finger when Mr. Alexander went to kick that that happened on January 22nd of 2008?
    JA Yes, it did.
    JM: Yet you write here that nothing noteworthy has happened, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And then you also write you turned down 4 offers for a date on Friday night, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You were free to date, so was he, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And then you finish it out by talking about going up to the snow, right? See that?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You're gonna gp up there skiing. you crossed it out and your just going up to the snow? Right?
    JM: did you go skiing?
    JA: No, I don't ski.
    JM: pardon
    JA: No, I don't ski, I didn't go.
    (1:05:25) [1/20/2008]
    JM: The entry of January 20th, 2008 (take a look at exhibit number 242.02) Count the pages please.
    JA: The pages between the two
    JM: No, just your entry of Sunday January 20th 2008, do you want me to show you where it is
    JA: I have it. Um it's 4 and a few lines
    JM: And it starts on the lower left hand corner with threee lines on a seperate page indicating January 20, of 2008, right?
    JA: Yes. And I'm sorry, I misspoke, it's 5 pages and a few lines
    JM: And in it one of the things that you talk about is this issue involving Lonnie's baptism, right?
    JA: I haven't read it, can I read it?
    JM: Sure, go ahead
    (1:10:13)
    JA: Yes
    JM: It does talk about Lonnie's baptism, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And, previously, when you testified you indicated that the reason that you missed Lonnie's baptism was because you and Mr. Alexander were involved in a sexual liason, right?
    JA: Yes.
    JM: And this was a sexual liason where the pop rocks and the tootsie pops were involved, right? That's what you said, right?
    JA: I'd have to reference dates
    JM: Well then let me show you a transcript then to refresh your recollection of what you told us on February 12.
    JA: I would appreciate that.
    JM: alright, I will
    (while waiting Jodi flips to other places in the diary and reads)
    JM: Starting on page five, on the bottom, read that.
    JA: Would you like me to read it outloud?
    JM: To yourself
    JA: Just the highlighted portion?
    JM: Nope, just keep reading it
    JA: Starting at the bottom?
    JM: Right.

    (reading)
    Sidebar
    JM: Have you read the entire transcript that deals with the sexual encounter involving the pop rocks and tootsie pops
    JA: Yes, I started where you highlighted and finished it.
    JM: Well read it above it, does it have anything to do with the tootsie pops and the rock pops?
    JA: (reading again)OK
    JM: Does the upper portion have anything to do with it, or no
    JA: Yes
    JM: Well read the other part to make sure we've covered everything regarding that particular encounter.
    JA: (reading, reading, reading slowly)
    Objection your honor...the entire transcript, can't hear judge
    JA: There's nothing about the pop rocks on this page.
    JM: There is nothing before that, correct?
    KN: Judge, I'm going to object to the questions until she's read the entire transcript, I don't believe she has at this point
    Judge: read the entire transcript.
    JA: I've read the entire transcript
    JM: Irrespective of the date that we're talking about, whether it was January 20 or January 21 or January 22, you do reference the pop rocks and tootsie pops sexual incident, by reference to Lonnie's baptism, right?
    JA: Yes (opens and looks in journal)
    JM: The journal entry of January 20, 2008 also references Lonnie's baptism, doesn't it? Take a look at exhibit 458.
    JA: (reading)Yes
    JM: And that's a true and accurate copy in front of you, the excerpt, of what's in your journal referencing Lonnie's baptism and the sexual encounter, isn't it.
    JA: Yeah, let me make sure I'm refering to the same day in my journal
    JM: Well let's take a look and make sure. Let me have that. (takes excerpt and journal). The first entry is identical on the first page that indicates Sunday, January 20, 2008.
    JA: Yes, That's when I wrote the entry
    JM: Then has we continue on, there is the entry involving the baptism, right? Do you see that? The start, that that entry is there involving Lonnie's baptism?
    JA: Yes, I just don't know if I'm referencing the 20th in that part of the entry.
    JM: Ma'am is there any other intervening date between the January 20th of 2008 where we started and the very end where you put J.A? Is there any other date in it?
    JA: the, the, I
    JM: Yes or no
    JA: There might be
    JM: Well, why don't we take a look. Let's take a look at the first page. The first page starts Sunday, January 20, 2008, doesn't it?
    JA: When I wrote it, yes
    JM: Does it start out saying Sunday January 20, 2008, yes or no?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And isn't it true that it starts out in black ink, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and then it continues on in blue ink, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and it flows, doesn't it? The words flow from what's at the bottom there to the next page, don't they?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So then we go to the bottom of it, the next page is also in blue ink, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: In the next page there is no other date reference, is there?
    KN: Objection, she said she needs to review it before she can answer
    JM: She's looking at it
    Judge: overruled, ma'am you can look at it
    JA: Thank you (turns the page)
    JM: No, no ma'am, don't turn the page. I just want to reference the next page to see if you see a date.
    KN: Objection your honor, she's reviewing.
    Judge: that's not the question, overruled
    JA: I didn't write a date
    JM: No, there is no date on there, is there?
    JA: No
    JM: Ok, Let's turn the page, and that page is also in blue ink, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And there is no date on that next page, is there?
    JA: That's correct
    JM: Then let's look at the page following that. That page, where you have your left hand on, that's also in blue ink.no,no,no you turned the page, go back. That's also in blue ink, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and there is no date on there either, is there?
    JA: that's correct
    JM: Turn the page. And then, on the next page that's also in blue ink, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And there's no date on that, is there?
    JA: That is correct.
    JM: And the page after that contains the initials J.A., right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: That's for Jodi Arias, isn't it?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And that's also in blue ink
    JA: Yes
    JM: And there's no date that, is there?
    JA: There is not.
    JM: And if you turn the page, go ahead, there's an entry for January 24, 2008, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: We can then go back. Turn the page once, we're looking at the entry that says J.A. on it, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: We go to the previous page, the one that you're pointing to, it does start, if I may have it back, with a word that's in quotations, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Exhibit number 458 includes that particular portion of the entry in quotations, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: then if we go to the previous page, at the bottom of the page, it's also in blue ink, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: the entry that I'm showing you now, includes that last paragraph, right?
    JA: Second to last
    JM: second to last paragraph, well if you take a look at the bottom you see that there's a word that's
    JA: Oh, I apologize, you're correct.
    JM: So in essence what we're talking about with the word thats crossed out and travels on to the next page, and that's what's included in this entry, correct in exhibit 458, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: along with the first page that includes the date
    JA: yes
    JM: and the entry or exhibit 458 references Lonnie's baptism, right?
    JM: Move for the admission of exhibit 416.
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    Jodi Arias Trial Day 21 Cross Examination Part 2 PM: Pop Rocks and Braids

    Afternoon Part 1
    Exhibit 458 is admitted
    JM: Ma'am when we left off we were talking the issue involving the Tootsie Pops and Pop Rocks and that that has a reference involving somebody named Lonnie and their baptism, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Regardless of whether is happened on Sunday or Thursday that's the same incident because you missed Lonnie's baptism, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Exhibit 458 is the entry for Sunday, January 20, 2008, do you see that?
    JA: Yes
    JM: (Entry on screen) And it starts out well I'm at the Institute building at Johnson and Southern with sister missionaries, rigt?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and there are some two blank pages and a third page that begins: (entry on screen) ďso I went to the church building and met with the sisters and gave them a ride to the institute building, where I am now.Ē Correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: That's part of the same entry for that January 20th 2008 date, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: There are no, in that whole body of that particular entry, there are no other dates mentioned, correct?
    JA: there's another day referenced, but not a date
    JM: I'm asking dates, aren't I?
    JA: It's implied, it is referenced.
    JM: No, I'm asking dates, do you see anywhere in those 5 or 6 pages another date?
    JA: yes
    JM: Show me where there is another D A T E date on 242.002
    JA: I'm counting this as a date where it says Thursday
    JM: It says Thursday night, though doesn't it?
    JA: yes
    JM: it doesn't say a date, does it?
    JA: No
    JM: we're getting to it where it says Thursday that's in the lower right hand corner of this exhibit number 458, correct?
    JA: that is correct
    JM: And your testimony involving pop rocks, exhibit number 457 does indicate that you thought it was a Thursday.
    JA: yes
    JM: You indicated previously that you were having trouble remembering it. Did this exhibit refresh your recollection?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and so your indicating sitting next to Sister Knight (who's totally trying to read this!) and Lonnie, who was just confirmed today, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And that's the Lonnie we are talking about, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: He was baptized Thursday night, which is the date that is referenced in your previous testimony, right?
    JA: Right
    JM: Shame on me, I was ďwrapped upĒ in other activities that pulled me away from attending the baptism. And the reason that's in quotes is because you're trying to get across something else other than being wrapped up, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You're trying to get across that this involved a liason, or sexual liason with Travis Alexander, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You said namely work, but then getting prepped to go to Travis' house for the night, where we explored every naughty fantasy we could conjure up in our fruitful immaginations (sic) that we haven't already fulfilled with one another. I love him, I really do. Right?
    JA: Yes
    JM and the fantasy that you guys, that you're talking about, involved the Tootsie Pops and Pop Rocks, correct?
    JA: part of it did, yes
    JM: Part of it, well, ma'am this transcript that we talked about only talks about tootsie pops and pop rocks, doesn't it?
    JA: No, it mentions bubble bath
    JM: It mentions what?
    JA: The bubbles
    JM: And the bubble bath is part of the Tootside Pops and Pop Rocks.
    JA: They were seperate the same night
    JM: Same night, same, is that how this reads, ma'am, the transcript is that how it reads?
    JA: I don't know if it reads that way but that's what it says
    JM: Well then take a look at 459 which is partial transcript and see if that's how it reads that it's different
    JA: different how?
    JM: Well, the way you were trying to tell me it was different, that it features a different sequence of events
    (6:34)
    JA: yes, it references two different sequences
    JM: Which two different
    JA: events
    JM: Are you talking about the issue involving the bathtub?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Isn't that part of the Tootsie Pops and Pop Rocks, engagement, if you will?
    JA: not in the bathtub
    JM: it didn't happen on the same day, ma'am?
    JA: same day, yes
    JM: same encounter?
    JA: mmm, yes, I guess.
    JM: Well no I'm saying, did he ejaculate twice that night?
    JA: Yes
    JM: so are you saying that when you were involved in the bathtub that was hours later than the tootside pops and pop rocks. Is that what you're saying?
    JA: No
    JM: It was part of the same encounter, wasn't it?
    JA: Yes, I guess
    JM: Well, you keep saying I guess, you were there, though, right?
    JA: Yeah, I was there?
    JM: And you were enjoying it weren't you?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you enjoyed the tootsie pops and the pop rocks, correct?
    JA: I enjoyed his attention.
    JM: No, I want to know if you enjoyed the Tootsie Pops and the Pop Rocks. I'm not asking about his attention.
    KN: Objection
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: I can't say enjoy would be the right word
    JM: Well, what you're saying is when you talk about the Tootsie Pops and the Pop rocks, you're saying you didn't enjoy it, did not enjoy it, correct?
    JA: I'm not saying that either
    JM: Well there can't be a middle ground, you either enjoyed it or you didn't, right?
    JA: That's not correct
    JM: Oh so you can go, In your view, you can go through an act but not enjoy it, but also enjoy it. What are you trying to say?
    JA: Am I allowed to tell you what I'm trying to say
    JM: I want to know whether or not you enjoyed it
    JA: I wouldn't characterized it that way
    JM: so you're saying you did not enjoy it, just want to clarify
    JA : If you're speaking only in the context of the tootsie and the pop rocks
    JM: and the pop rocks sure
    JA: I wouldn't call it enjoyed.
    JM: You would not say you enjoyed it, right?
    JA: I would not say enjoy
    JM: If you then take a look at exhibit number 458 which references that encounter involving Lonnie, right
    JA: um, Lonnie, no, you mean
    JM: It didn't involve the batism involving Lonnie?
    JA: I don't understand your question
    JM: Well then let's just take a look at it, okay? Irrespective of the date, you referenced it as Lonnie's baptism. Just for point of reference. Remember we talked about that, right?
    JA: That's right
    JM: During this encounter that we've been calling Lonnie's baptism there were some Pop Rocks and Tootsie Pops that were involved, right?
    JA: No, Lonnie's baptism did not involve Tootsie Rolls and Pop Rocks
    JM: Ma'am we both know what we're talking about, this journal references Lonnie's baptism, doesn't it?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you missed Lonnie's baptism, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and the reason you missed Lonnie's baptism is because you were having a Tootsie Pop placed somewhere, right?
    JA: Yes, that's one of the reasons.
    JM: And this exhibit here, exhibit number 458 does say that you explored every naughty fantasy that we could conjure up in our fruitful imaginations that we haven't already fulfilled with one another, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: this doesn't say that you didn't enjoy it, does it?
    JA: no
    JM: I does say you did enjoy it, doesn't it?
    JA: I don't see the word enjoy in there
    JM: No, Did I say the word enjoy was in there?
    JA: Yes, you said it said I enjoyed it
    JM: Did I say enjoy was in there? It says you explored every naughty fantasy we could conjure up in our fruitful imaginations. You're saying that having a fruitful imagination, that's not enjoyment is what you're saying, right?
    JA: I'm not saying that.
    JM: And you're saying that every naughty fantasy, that's a bad thing, right, that's what you're saying.
    JA: I'm not saying that.
    JM: well the pop rocks were part of this naughty fantasy, weren't they?
    JA: Part of it yes.
    JM: and it was part of fulfilling your imaginations, right?
    JA: his imagination, yes.
    JM: Oh, so it was, even though you wrote it, he didn't write this did he?
    JA: I wrote it
    JM: That's right and those are your words, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and so even though you say haven't already filled with one another, these fruitful imaginations and all of that stuff, well that doesn't really mean what it says.
    JA: I'm not saying that
    JM: Well it doesn't distinguish between Pop Rocks and it doesn't distinguish between Tootsie Pops, does it?
    JA: No it doesn't.
    JM: And yet, you're saying here, they are different, right?
    JA: Umm, no that's not what I'm saying
    JM: What you're saying goes against what's written there, doesn't it.
    JA: No, it does not go against it.
    JM: Where? Show me here, point it out where it says I did not enjoy the Tootsie Pop encounter. Does it say that anywhere?
    JA: I did not write anything like that in my journal.
    JM: It doesn't say anything like that does it?
    JA: That's correct
    JM: And it does not say anywhere there that you did not enjoy the pop rocks encounter, does it?
    JA: that's right
    JM: Nothing prevented you from writing that in there, right?
    JA: That's right
    JM: You could have written anything that you wanted. It's not like you didn't have pens, right?
    JA: yeah, that's right
    JM: And you had enough space to write it because we know there's an entry after that, right?
    JA Yes.
    JM: And, It's a situation where you considered this to be a secret kind of thing so that if you wrote whatever you wanted there, you had a reasonable expectation that it would remain private, right?
    JA: Reasonable.
    JM: Which means you had an expecation that it would remain private, right?
    JA: More a hope.
    JM: Well, you were living with another individual, I think you said Rachel, correct?
    JA: Not at this date
    JM: okay where were you living?
    JA: I was living at 9634 East ? Avenue in Mesa
    JM: Is that an apartment, or were you renting a room?
    JA: I was renting a room.
    JM: And in that room that you rented you kept this journal, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So noone really had any authority to go into your room, right?
    JA: That's not right
    JM: Well, are you saying that people in that house went through your journal, is that what you're saying?
    JA: I'm not saying that
    JM: so you did have an expectation that your journal would remain private then, right?
    JA: While it was at home yes.
    JM: So, you're saying that someone broke in and looked at your journal? Is that what you're saying?
    JA: No, because that would be at home.
    JM: Well, you kept your journal at home didn't you?
    JA: I took it everywhere with me
    JM: So what you're saying if that if you went somewhere that it could have fallen into the wrong hands, is that what you're talking about?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You never reported to the police that your journal ever went, anybody ever looked at your journal, correct?
    JA: I don't think it is a crime so no I didn't
    JM: well, ma'am Did I ask you if it was a crime?
    JA: No, you didn't
    JM: Are you a lawyer? Do you know what I crime is and what isn't?
    JA: I think I have a pretty good idea, but I'm not an attorney
    JM: And so if someboyd broke into your house and read your journal you say nah, you wouldn't report it because you wouldn't think that was a crime, right?
    JA: That's right, not the breaking and entering part just the reading the journal part.
    JM: Oh, so now you're drawing a distinction. Isn't this where this journal was kept most of the time, with you in your home?
    KN: Objection
    JA: No, I misunderstood what you said
    Judge: overruled
    JA: Um, my understanding was that you were talking about if someone was looking in my journal if I would have reported that and no I would not have reported someone reading my journal to the police.

    (14:29)
    JM: Part of this encounter involving the Tootsie Pops, also involved braids, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You have a definite opinion on the braids, don't you?
    JA: umm, yes I have an opinion
    JM: You think they're hot, don't you?
    JA: Um, I guess.
    JM: Well, no, you're the person that knows. We don't want you to guess. You think that the braids are hot, don't you?
    JA: I think cute is more appropriate
    JM: Ma'am, let's take a listen then, I'll have this marked as an exhibit, to part of the conversation that you had with Mr. Alexander back on May 10, 2010. I'll mark it, have you listen to it and you let us know if it's your voice talking about the braids. This is exhibit 460.
    KN: Judge has this been admitted?
    JM: It has not she's going to lay the foundation for it
    KN: Then the jury can't hear it
    Tape-recorded: (you know what I really liked when we were in the bath with the candles and I had braids and the bubbles)
    Judge: There's an objection
    (Tape-recorded Travis: Oh I love the braids. JA: I know, those are hot).
    JM turned off the tape.
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    Same snippet plays again.
    JM: That was your voice, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you're talking about braids, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Talking about how much you like them, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you're saying that they're hot, right? And this encounter involving the pop rocks and tootsie pops also involved braids, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So, you enjoyed those braids, right?
    JA: I don't... it's not a yes or no answer.
    JM: Well we did hear you saying that you enjoyed them, right? Do you want to hear it again?
    JA: No
    JM: you did hear that, right?
    JA: I said I liked them.
    JM: When you say that you liked them, isn't it true that that means that's something that's enjoyable
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you also said they were hot, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: So during your sexual encounters with Mr. Alexander, if you wore braids, you thought they were hot and you liked them, right?
    JA: I liked his attention
    KN: Objection to that last question he asked both hot and liked them.
    Judge: Restate the question
    JM: When you were with Mr. Alexander, isn't it true you wore braids, you liked them, liked them?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And with regard to the braids isn't it true that when you were with Mr. Alexander, you thought the braids were hot?
    JA: Okay
    JM: Oh no, I'm not asking for an okay, I'm asking for you to tell me the truth. What is it that you believe?
    JA: I believe that he thought it was hot, so it was hot.
    JM: So what you're saying here is with regard to exhibit number 460 and that telephone call that was played during your direct examination. You're saying you lied?
    JA: No.
    JM: Well, let's do you want to listen here where you say that they're hot?
    JA: I just heard it.
    JM: Right, it doesn't say anything about you doing this for Mr. Alexander anywhere does it?
    JA: No, that's implied.
    JM: It's implied, let's listen to it and see where it's implied.
    Replay tape-recording (you know what I really liked when we were in the bath with candles and I had the braids? TA: mm hmm JA and the bubbles? TA: oh, I love the braids JA: I know they're hot).
    JM: That's your voice, right?
    JA: Yes and Travis's
    JM: Did I ask you about Travis's voice, Ma'am?
    JA: I didn't know which voice you were talking about
    KN: Objection, argumentative
    Judge: Overruled
    JM: Did I ask you if that was Travis's voice?
    JA: no
    JM: we're talking about your voice, that was your voice right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you do say those braids are hot, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and you said it because you believed it, right?
    JA: Yes


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    Jodi Arias Trial Day 21 Cross Examination Part 2 PM: Jan 22, 2008 and Memory Problems

    (21:20) More Journal January 22, 2008
    JM: These two entries that we have here, these journal entries. Exhibit number 456 you start them out by dating them at the upper left-hand corner of that one which is exhibit number 456. And 458ou also dated on the upper left-hand corner, or the left-hand corner you see that?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you've already told us that there were no dates in between the Sunday 1/20/08 and the Thursday 1/24/08, correct?
    JA Correct.
    JM: And you looked at the journal, there are no entries between those to dates, right?
    JA: that is correct
    JM: And it's fair to say that September 22, 2008 falls in between this gap here, correct?
    JA: Correct
    JM: and nowhere do you mention either in this January 24th of '08 and January 20th of 08 document you don't mention anything about this physical encounter with Mr. Alexander that you told us happened on January 22nd 2008, do you?
    JA: No I would have never
    JM: I'm not asking you if you would ever, Do you mention it there?
    JA: I said no
    JM: and with regard to mentioning there, nothing stopped you from mentioning it, right?
    JA: yes something did stop me
    JM: So you're saying that someone held your hand and stopped you from writing that?
    JA: I'm not saying that
    JM: are you saying that someone came into your house and stole your journals and said you know and took whatever was the journal there took the journal, so you couldn't write in it.
    JA: I'm not saying that
    JM: You had the ability to write in it, right
    JA: yes
    JM: You had the free will to write in it, didn't you?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and there is nothing there, correct?
    JA: Referencing that incident?
    JM: Pardon
    JA: do you mean referencing that incident?
    JM: I can't hear what you're saying?
    JA: do you mean referencing that incident, there's nothing there regarding that?
    JM: Right, there's nothing referencing that incident between those two dates, is there?
    JA: There is not
    JM: The reason that it's not there is because it didn't happen, right?
    JA: that's not right.
    JM: You could have written it, you do say in exhibit number 456, I haven't written because there has been nothing noteworthy to report, right?
    JA: that's right
    JM: so to you getting this injury to the left ring-finger, that's no big deal, right?
    JA: that's not what it says
    JM: Pardon
    JA: That's not what it says
    JM: I'm not asking you what is says, I'm asking you what you think. It's no big deal to you then, right?
    JA: That's not right
    JM: well you came in and told us about it, right. But it's not written in your journal, right?
    JA: No
    JM: you didn't call the police, right?
    JA: No
    JM: you didn't get any medical care for it
    JA: not professional medical care
    JM: did you go to a doctor to get it looked at?
    JA: No
    JM: Did you go to a hospital to get it looked at?
    JA: No
    JM: Did you go to a friends house, or an acquaintance to tell them about it?
    JA: Definitely not
    JM: And during this conversation you had with Det. Flores back on July 16 of 2008 you didn't tell him anything about it, did you?
    JA: No, definitely not.
    JM: In fact you gave him a different story, didn't you
    JA: Yes
    JM: You told him something about those two people and how you got that injury to that finger, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So you're saying that what you told the detective there was a lie?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So in your view do you, when do you decide to tell the truth? When you're in this court and no place else is that what I'm hearing from you?
    JA: No
    JM: Just because you're in this court doesn't mean you have to tell the truth, I mean that's what your telling us, right?
    JA: That's not what I'm telling anyone
    KN: Objection
    Judge: Sustained
    JM: Ma'am nothing has stoped you from telling this story ever, correct?
    JA: That's not correct
    JM: You have freewill don't you?
    JA: Yes I do
    JM: Nothing the detective did stopped you from telling it, right?
    JA: Flores, no
    JM: Nothing stopped you, you had a car back then, didn't you?
    JA: when?
    JM: when this supposedly happened Jan 22nd of '08.
    JA: Yes
    JM: You could have driven yourself to a hospital, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You could have, do you remember telling us about an incident in August 2007 where you caught Mr. Alexander kissing another girl, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you told us that with regard to that incident I called my father, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you told him some things about what you have seen the day before, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Nothing would have stopped you from calling your father to tell him that, right?
    JA: Well, sorry I'm kind of hyper literal sometimes. Nothing did that day.
    JM: Yes or no would anything have stopped you from calling your father?
    KN: Objection, asked and answered
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: Umm, maybe, but
    JM: well ma'am you didn't have any problem calling in August of 2007 and complaining, did you?
    JA: I did have a problem, he had to convince me to tell him.
    JM: well you called him and told him, right?
    JA: eventually, yes I did
    JM: You called him and you told him, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: you could have called him and said, hey I've got this problem with my finger, you had a telephone then, right?
    JA: I didn't have a problem with my finger then.
    JM: Well, I thought that you told us and testified that on January 22nd 2008 was when you had this finger injured by Mr. Alexander. Do you remember telling us that?
    JA: Yes, January yes
    JM: And so January 22nd of 2008 or anytime after, you had a telephone, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You could have called your father and you could have told him, right?
    JA: Could have
    JM: But you didn't
    JA: I wouldn't have, no I did not.
    JM: And noone knew about this injury or this supposed or claimed injury to the little finger until after you killed Mr. Alexander, right?
    JA: That's right


    (27:47)
    JM: Ma'am, that was a significant day, January 22nd of 2008, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: It was significant for a number of reasons, including the fact that you claim that on January 21 of 2008 you caught Mr. Alexander masturbating to some images of boys, correct?
    JA: I only saw one image, it was a blur.
    JM: Ma'am didn't you say there were images, there were more than one?
    JA: There were more than one image, I only caught a clear view of one image
    JM: Was there more than one image ma'am?
    JA: Yes
    JM: but you only saw one, right?
    JA: One clear,
    JM: According to you
    JA: mm hmm
    JM: is that a yes
    JA: Yes
    JM: And that was the day before this supposed thing happened on where he had this violent issue with you on January 22, 2008, correct?
    JA: that's right
    JM: And if we go again to that entry in here of 456 ďI haven't written because there has been nothing noteworthy to reportĒ That's what you wrote, correct?
    JA: Corret
    JM: the way you explain it to us here, this issue involving, this claim involving Mr. Alexander, that's pretty noteworthy isn't it?
    JA: Not for my journal, but, yes, in reality I guess it's pretty noteworthy..
    JM: It's noteworthy isn't it?
    JA: it is today
    JM: It's noteworthy to you, isn't it?
    JA: I already answered your question
    JM: And is the answer yes or no
    JA: Yes
    JM: And it's so noteworthy to you that you waited until after you killed Mr. Alexander to tell anybody about it, didn't you?
    JA: I waited years
    JM: The answer is did you wait until after this prosecution had been started, until after you had been charged to tell anybody about it correct?
    KN: Objection, asked and answered
    Judge: overruled
    JA: Yes, I wated years
    JM: And ma'am one of the things you made it sound like he had a problem, right?
    JA: He did have a problem
    JM: That's what you claim, right?
    JA: That's the reality
    JM: That's what you claim, correct
    JA: Okay, yes
    JM: When back then, there was this problem, did you call, the way you made it sound it was such a big problem, did you call, for example, child protective services?
    JA: No
    JM: I mean you made it sound that there was such a big problem that if he spent the night somewhere, at a friend's house, and they had a child and that concerned you. Do you remember telling us that on direct examination?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and yet you didn't go to that person and say hey he's got this issue, did you?
    JA: No
    JM: You didn't go to the police department and tell them anything, right?
    JA: No
    JM: you chose to keep that allegation until about 2 years ago, is that right?
    JA: I think it's almost 3 years ago at this point, no, I think it's almost 3 Ĺ to 4 years ago.
    JM: pick a year, what year did you
    JA: 2009 is when I first
    JM: And
    JA: told somebody
    JM: and you were arrested back in July of 2008, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and when this detective interviewed you, you didn't tell him anything about it, did you?
    JA: Definitely not
    JM: And you could have, though, right?
    JA: in theory, yes I could have
    JM: Ma'am one of the things that happened with regard to this particular issue is that there was a hearing that was scheduled involving this well, what time did this allegation happen. When do you claim, we know the date, when do you claim that you saw this masturbatory activity?
    JA: It would have been in the afternoon after my morning shift.
    JM: And what time would that have been ma'am?
    JA: I don't know the exact time but it was afternoon well before it was dark, it was still light out.
    JM: Okay, could you be more specific. Was it noon?
    JA: It was after. noon.
    JM: Alright, was it 2:00?
    KN: Objection, asked and answered, Judge
    Judge: Restate the question.
    JM: If it was so noteworthy why can't you remember the time?
    JA: It was kind of traumatic
    JM: So, what, just because it's, weren't your senses heightened, heightened, at that time that you saw this? Didn't you get angry or upset?
    KN: Objection..question
    Judge: Sustained
    JM: were you angry?
    JA: I was sick to my stomach, I was not angry
    JM: Ma'am, were you angry? Were you angry?
    JA: I became angry later, but not in that moment
    JM: Were you angry at that time, ma'am?
    JA: I said not in that moment
    JM: So the answer is no, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: were you upset at that time?
    JA: yes
    JM: so if you're upset, aren't you kind of, your senses heightened at that time, to know the time?
    KN: Objection, she's answered the question.
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: Can you repeat that?
    JM: Weren't your senses heightened because of the anger to at least know the time so that somebody could check it out?
    JA: Well, you said because of anger, but I wasn't angry at that moment
    JM: Well, then you see this, you're not angry and you're not upset.
    JA: I am upset
    JM: If you are upset, don't you think your senses were heightened to what you just saw?
    JA: My mind doesn't work like that.
    JM: So the answer is no, then, right?
    KN: Objection..
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: It kind of moved in slow motion so if that's heightened
    JM: Yes or no, ma'am?
    JA: It's kind of a matter of opinion. I don't know
    JM: And I'm asking for your opinion.
    KN: It's been asked and answered, she can't speculate
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: whether it's heightened, my perception of things, is that your question?
    JM: Right, at that time when your viewing this, the way you describe it, this bad act?
    JA: Well, it's , I'm not sure, it's something that I'm never gonna forget,
    JM: You're never gonna forget, right
    JA: That's right
    JM: but you have forgotten the time
    JA: I know it was the afternoon
    JM: Ma'am, I'm asking you for the time.
    KN: Objection she said she doesn't know the time.
    Judge: Restate your question, sustained.
    JM: you said that you'll never forget it, right?
    JA: the incident
    JM: and I'm asking you, isn't it true that you forgot the time
    KN: Objection again, she said she never knew the time.
    Judge: rephrase
    JM: you said that you had just been let or out from Mimi's cafe, right
    JA: for a little while, I was off work for a little while
    JM: you worked at Mimi's cafe, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: you had been working there, right
    JA: yes
    JM: your shift was over
    JA: yes
    JM: what time did your shift start?
    JA: it varied
    JM: that day, what time did your shift start?
    JA: in the morning
    JM: what time?
    JA: Sometime in the morning, I don't know the exact time.
    JM: You don't know the exact time, yet you knew that you had to be there on that day?
    JA: Yes
    JM: At a certain time? What time does Mimi's open?
    JA: I've never opened Mimi's so I'm not sure, but they open early.
    JM: So you don't know the time that it opens, you don't know the time that you went to work, right?
    JA: not the exact time
    JM: just the morning it what you can give us?
    JA: Yes, the early morning
    JM: So if you went at 10:00, 10-12 would only be two hours, right/
    JA: that's right
    JM: Was it an 8 hour shift
    JA: No, they're not 8 hours
    JM: So on that day it was not an 8 hour shift, right?
    JA: That' right
    JM: How many hours was your shift?
    JA: It depended on the flow of business.
    JM: I understand that it may depend on that, how many hours did you work on January 22, 2008 on this day that this horrible thing that you claim happened?
    JA: I would only be able to tell you a range.
    JM: How many hours then, give me a range since you what you're telling me is you don't know.
    JA: I know the range, but not the exact hours.
    JM: So what you're telling me is you don't know the exact hours?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and anything else that you'd give me would be a guess, right?
    JA: Yes

    (36:51)
    JM: and ma'am, I mean you have a lot of memory for a lot of events involving sexual instances regarding Mr. Alexander, yet you seem to be having a lot of problems with your memory here today. And you also alluded that you have problems with your memory. Is this a long-standing thing that you've had problems with your memory of is this something that happened recently?
    KN: Objection
    Judge: Sustained
    JM: Your problems with your memory, is it a recent vintage?
    JA: Define recent.
    JM: I don't know, since you started testifying.
    JA: no it goes back further than that
    JM: How far back does it go?
    JA: I don't even know if I'd call it a problem
    JM: well just tell be how far back it goes, you said you were gonna tell me, so please.
    JA: how far back what goes
    JM: we're talking about your memory problem, right?
    JA: I don't know that I'd call it a problem.
    JM: Okay
    JA: I don't remember every single thing that's ever happened to me in my whole life
    JM: Ma'am, your memory issues, we're talking about those, right
    JA: I wouldn't even call them issues, but okay, my memory?
    JM: you don't want to call them problems, right?
    JA: No, I don't want to
    JM: You don't want to call them issues, right?
    JA: I don't know, I reall don't
    JM: You don't want to call them issues, you just told me that, right?
    JA: I didn't say I don't want to
    JM: Alright so can we call them issues then?
    JA: OK
    JM: with regard to these memory issues that you claim to have when did you start having them?
    (38:45)
    JA: It depends on the type of the memory issue
    JM: It depends on the type of the memory issue? If it benefits you, do you have a memory issue?
    KN: Objection, argumentative, your Honor
    JM: Or if it hurts you to you have a memory issue?
    KN: the same objection, your Honor
    Judge: Sustained
    JM: Well
    JA: When it hurts sometimes
    JM: Ma'am, there's no question right now. You say you have memory problems but it depends on the circumstance, right?
    JA: That's right
    JM: And give me the factors, I don't want to know about a specific circumstance, what factors influence you having a memory problem.
    JA: Umm, usually when men like you are screaming at me and grilling me, or someone like Travis doing the same.
    JM: So that affects your memory problems, right?
    JA: It does, it makes my brain scramble.
    JM: So, you're saying that it's, basically what your saying is it's Mr. Marinez's fault that you can't remember things that are going on?
    JA: It's not your fault
    JM: I'm not saying that, you're saying that, isn't it?
    JA: No, I'm not saying that.
    JM: Is it something about a certain decibel of the voice that creates problems?
    JA: Decibel, tone, content, sort of a combination of those factors.
    KN: Objection your honor, this is a stunt. May I approach.
    Judge: You may.
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    Ingra - you are awesome! Thank you so much for these transcriptions.

    Reading the last one and cracking up at Juan speaking barely above a whisper after Jodi said she gets nervous when men like him are yelling at her. Even Jodi laughed.


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    JM: so if you didn't think he was dead, that portion of you didn't think he was dead, then it's okay for you at that point, if you didn't think he was dead to sort of roll around with Mr. Alexander, with Mr.Burns and that was okay, right?
    JA: I'm single.
    JM: Just like he was in August 8th in August of 2007
    JA: Yes
    JM: So it's okay for you, then it should be okay for him, right?
    JA: It was okay.
    JM: Then why did you confront him the next day if it was okay?
    JA: Cause he was still courting me, I wanted to know where I stood.
    JM: And because of your definition of courting you, you felt you deserved an explanation, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: Hadn't you just had intercourse with Mr. Alexander on the 4th of June?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And if he was still alive, he would have deserved an explanation then for you being with Mr. Burns, right?
    JA: no
    JM: Well, I mean that's you're applying a different standard here, aren't you?
    JA: No
    JM: You're saying that its okay for you to confront him about the situation, but not okay for Mr. Alexander to confront you, right?
    JA: if he wanted to confront me, it would have been okay.
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    Jodi Arias Trial Day 21 Cross Examination Part 2 PM: Accusation and text messages#1

    (41:02)
    Martinez using softer voice
    JM: What time did you get off of work from Mimi's?
    JA: In the afternoon
    JM: Hold on, let me ask the question. What time did you get off from Mimi's on January 21 of 2008?
    KN: Objection asked and answered....
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: A time in the afternoon.
    JM: Can you be more specific about the time?
    JA: No
    JM: why not?
    JA: Because I don't think I was looking at my watch or phone or any other clock.
    JM: Where did you go after you left Mimi's?
    JA: Um, I went to Travis's house.
    JM: you went directly to Mr. Alexander's house?
    JA: That's right.
    JM: And what time did you getover to his house?
    JA: I'm sorry?
    JM: You couldn't hear me?
    JA: I couldnít hear you
    JM: What time did you get over to his house?
    KN: Objection, asked and answered....
    Judge: overruled
    JA: about 20 minutes after I left Mimi's
    JM: And, when you got there, ma'am did you walk in?
    JA: yes
    JM: the front door
    JA: yes
    JM: was it open
    JA: yes
    JM: was it unlocked
    JA: yes
    JM: And, you said you walked in and you went straight up the stairwell, right
    JA: Umm, yes
    JM: And you didn't say a word going up the stairwell, did you?
    JA: I'm sorry
    JM: You didn't say a word going up the stairway, did you?
    JA: Umm, I don't remember.
    JM: You didn't call out his name, right?
    JA: I might have, yes.
    JM: And ma'am in January 21 of 2008 you and he were broken up weren't you?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So it wasn't like you were boyfriend and girlfriend and you went over every day, right?
    JA: we were not boyfriend/girlfriend, but I went over almost every day.
    JM: Pardon
    JA: We were not boyfriend/girlfriend, but I did go over almost every day
    JM: You're mumbling, I didn't hear you.
    JA: We were not boyfriend/girlfriend, but I did go to his house almost every day.
    JM: And on this particular day, what were you there to do?
    JA: He needed help putting boxes up in his attic
    JM: And, had you talked to him about this previously?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Qas it via text message, was it via some other manner
    JA: I don't remember, it was discussed
    JM: Was it by telephone?
    JA: Probably
    JM: Well maíam how could it be discussed via telephone if you were working at Mimiís?
    JA: it was discussed previous to my shift.
    JM: So, what time did you discuss it then?
    JA: It was, it had to do with, well it wasn't that day. It was weeks ahead of time. It was about the Christmas things that were in his attic.
    JM: So now it wasn't that day that you discussed it, right?
    JA: Um, once I got there we were discussing it.
    JM: I want to know if that day that you claim this happened there was a telephone call in the morning.
    JA: I don't remember that part
    JM: And if, back then, what was your number? Weíve already heard it, but?
    JA: 831-402-1901
    JM: And that would have been the number that you called him on, you used to call him. That would have been the telephone you used to call him, right?
    JA: Usually, yes
    JM: That was your telephone, right?
    JA: yes, that was my cell phone.
    JM: You say, well, normally I would use that to call him. Pray tell, what other circumstances would there be that you wouldnít use your cellphone to call him?
    JA: Land lines
    JM: Pardon
    JA: Land lines
    JM: You had a land line also in your home, right?
    JA: There were land-lines in the homes where I lived.
    JM: Pardon
    JA: There were landlines in the homes where I lived.
    JM: Iím not asking about the homes where you lived, Iím asking about the homes, your home on January 21 on 2008.
    JA: There was not a land-line in that home
    JM: There was not, was there?
    JA: No there was not.
    JM: So you would have had to use your cellphone to call him, right?
    JA: I probably would have used my cellphone if I called him that day, yes.
    JM: And now you are saying that you aren't sure if you called him that morning, right?
    JA: Um, I don't think I did cause he didnít get up early.
    JM: Maíam so youíre saying you didnít call him that morning, right?
    JA: I don't recall if I did or not.
    JM: I thought you said that there was an agreement or arrangement for you to go over there that day.
    JA: There was.
    JM: Okay, what was the arrangement?
    JA: The arrangement was, after Christmas, when he had packed up all of his things to put them in the attic.
    JM: No, no, Iím not asking about that. Iím asking about the arrangement about the time when you were going over. I don't really care about what the activity was. What was the arrangement about when you were gonna come over and how that was going to work?
    JA: Just whenever it would make sense
    JM: so whenever it made sense, you were going to go over that day.
    JA: Yes, that day was a good day for use
    JM: And you donít know if you talked to him in the morning about if it was that day that you were going to be over?
    JA: I donít remember
    JM: And if you didnít talk to him, your coming over would have been a surprise then, after working at Mimiís, right?
    JA: No, he was expecting me the first time
    JM: How was he able to expect you the first time if you didnít call him in the morning to let him know you were going to be over that day?
    JA: Because it was already discussed.
    JM: When was it discussed, tell me.
    JA: It was discussed multiple times in the weeks following Christmas.
    JM: I understand that it was discussed multiple times in the weeks following Christmas, but in the multiple times following Christmas, did you pick a date? January 21, letís just pick December 26th. You said to him, on January 21 of 2008, Iím going to come over and help with the Christmas decorations? Is that how it worked?
    JA: no
    JM: No, it didnít did it. If you had an arrangement there would have been an agreement, wouldnít there have been?
    JA: We werenít that formal
    JM: But you just told me that you talked about it, right?
    JA: It was discussed multiple times, yes.
    JM: Right, and so all those multiple times you discussed it, you agreed that it was going to be January 21, 2008 after you got off work from Mimiís, is that the agreement, or is that the discussion?
    JA: I donít think it was that specific at all
    JM: So what was the discussion?
    JA: Just whenever we got together to do it.
    JM: Then he wasnít expecting you like you said he was when you came over that day.
    JA: He was hoping I would come over to help him with those things.
    JM: Maíam you keep saying he was hoping, how do you know he was hoping, if he didnít even know you were coming over?
    JA: Based on our discussions.
    JM: So in your discussions you told him I want you to hope that I come over on the 21st?
    JA: I didnít tell him that
    JM: Of course you didnít, the point is, you didnít, you can't tell us anything about the circumstances of that day, can you
    JA: Thatís not true
    JM: Well, you canít tell us about the time, right?
    JA: Not a precise hour or minute
    JM: You canít tell us when you worked at Mimiís, your hours, right?
    JA: Not the precise hours
    JM: you can't tell us the time you got over to his house, right?
    JA: not the precise minute
    JM: You can't tell us if there was even a telephone call that morning, right?
    JA: I don't remember if there were calls that morning.
    JM: You can't tell us anything, but you can tell us that you walked in and then there was this issue and you went in to help him with the Christmas decorations, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: And after you helped him with the Christmas decorations, you left, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You drove away, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: You came back, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: And according to you, thatís when you saw Mr. Alexander engaged in this masturbatory activity, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: And according to you, there were multiple photographs, but you saw one of them in particular. Correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and you then left, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you left in your car, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you went home and started driving around, right?
    JA: I went home, threw up, cried and drove around.
    JM: Sure, you did all these kinds of things that afternoon, right.
    JA: Yes
    JM: In your car, right?
    JA: I didnít throw up in my car.
    JM: Whatís that?
    JA: I didnít throw up in my car.
    JM: You drove off in your car, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Well, isn't that problematic since you were driving Mr. Alexander's car?
    JA: I wasnít driving his car yet, we were supposed to swap cars.
    JM: Well, he didnít have a car that day, right?
    JA: We were switching cars afterward.
    JM: Maíam did he have a, my question is
    JA: He had a car
    JM: Isn't it true, he did not have a car that day?
    JA: No, he had a car
    JM: Well, let's take a look at some of the text messages
    JA: Okay.
    JM: Iím gonna give you two sets, one with his responses and one without, okay.
    JA: Okay

    (51:13)
    JM: Take a look at exhibit 461. Those are text messages between your telephone number and Mr. Alexanderís, correct?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And the incoming means that thatís your message coming in to him, correct?
    JA: wait, say that again. Iím sorry, I was reading.
    JM: Do you remember previously testifying that when ďincomingĒ was on these text messages that was you calling, or that was you leading the message?
    JA: That was me sending the message
    JM: Right, and the outgoing is him sending it out, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You also talked a little bit about the timing on them, right. The times that are designated?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You indicated that it was 7 hours off, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: That copy that I have given you has taken the time to right down the actual time minus seven hours, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Go ahead and review them to make sure the times that are on there are correct
    (52:41)
    JA: Yes, those are correct, I believe.
    JM: Well we donít want you to believe. Take your time, subtract seven from there and make sure they are correct. Cause itís important here and we donít want you to believe.
    JA: I'm pretty sure they're correct
    JM: When you say pretty sure, it means you're not sure.
    JA: No I said Iím pretty sure.
    JM: And it does not include his response there, his outgoing messages, does it?
    JA: Yeah, it looks like itís blocked out
    JM: take a look at exhibit 462. Same thing, right except that this one includes his responses on there, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: the times are also written in there, correct.
    JA: Yes
    JM: And to the best of your knowledge those are the accurate times that are written in there those are the accurate times that that message was either outgoing or incoming, right?
    JA: Umm that is right, they look like they match
    JM: Ok, if I can have those back

    (56:00)
    KN: No objection to exhibit 461 your honor
    Judge: 461 is admitted
    JM: Take a look at exhibit 461 and letís talk about the times first. Although it says 1/22/08 at 00:38:50 someone has written in 5:38 pm because of the 7 hour time difference that you talked about previously in direct examination, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And when we talked about, itís got your name on there, right?
    JA: Thatís right
    JM: Itís got your telephone number on there, right?
    JA: Right
    JM: And then it has the time of January 21st at 5:38 pm, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And then it says ďI can't remember am I coming in for you on Wednesday at 10:30Ē. Isnít that what it says?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Then, you see the next one at 6:41 pm, right? You claim you had already left Mimi's cafe in the early afternoon, right?
    JA: Um, yes. I didnít say early, I said sometime in the afternoon.
    JM: But you canít tell us the time, right
    JA: Thatís right
    JM: But, at 6:41 pm you are talking about trading cars before FHE, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: FHE stands for Family Home Evening, right?
    JA: Thatís right
    JM: And family home evening starts at 7:00 in the evening, doesnít it?
    JA: I donít remember
    JM: Well, you were a practicing Mormon, right?
    JA: Yes, sort of
    JM: And you attended family home evenings, you were telling us about that, right?
    JA: Yes, I did
    JM: And you attended them more than once, right?
    JA: Yes, I did
    JM: And of all those times that you attended, didn't they start at 7:00?
    JA: I donít remember. They were in the evening, but I donít remember the time.
    JM: Would they have started at 10:00 at night?
    JA: No, they were not too late
    JM: How long, isn't it true that they lasted about an hour, Family Home Evenings?
    JA: Yes, roughly and hour
    JM: And then the people that were there, the singles that were there would get together and get involved in some sort of social activity, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Bowling, that sort of thing, right?
    JA: my ward never went bowling
    JM: Movies, something like that
    JA: My ward never went to movies
    JM: Going out to dinner
    JA: It was usually at the church
    JM: Well it could also be at peopleís houses, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And then at 7:19 pm you are sending him a text ďNevermind. One of the stores I need to go to closes at 8 pm. Iíll just go tomorrow, right?
    JA: Thatís right
    JM: Thatís evening now, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: You said that this incident involving the masturbatory conduct occurred in the afternoon, right?
    JA: It did
    JM: so it would have happened before 7:19 pm, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: You were already gone, you were wherever, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you told us that no he kept calling you and kept calling you and then you said you called him back, right?
    JA: Yes I did
    JM: And then you went out and got him something from, I think, it was Starbucks or something and you brought him something over, remember saying that?
    JA: Not that day
    JM: Well, then you went over to his house, right?
    JA: I did
    JM: You went over and you had sex with him, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: What time did you go over to his house?
    JA: It was in the evening
    JM: What time
    JA: Donít know the time
    JM: Well, if heís going to family home evening, heís not going to be around, assume it starts at seven. Heís not going to be around
    KN: Objection
    Judge: Restate the question
    JM: If, hypothetically speaking, if Family Home Evening starts at 7:00, he's not going to be home at 7 pm is he?
    KN: Objection
    Judge: overruled
    JA: If he went, then he wouldn't be.
    JM: Iím not asking if he went. It starts at 7:00 in the evening, he would not have been home, right?
    KN: Objection
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: It wouldn't necessarily mean that, it doesn't mean that he went, but that night he
    JM: Maíam, Iím saying hypothetically. That means assume
    JA: Ok, yes
    JM: that he went to family home evening and if it started at 7, he wouldnít have been at his house, right?
    JA: thatís right
    JM: And if he has become involved in this masturbatory conduct, why are you worried about trading cars with him.
    JA: I think he wanted to trade the car
    JM: Maíam this isnít him writing that out there, is it?
    JA: I wanted to do it before FHE, he wanted to trade the car.
    JM: Well, why donít we take a look at this which is 462. This is the one that contained his responses, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: take a look at it and see who was worried about trading cars.

    (1:02:05)
    JM: It indicates the back and forth involving the car, doesnít it
    JA: Yes it does
    JM: I move for the admission of exhibit number 462.


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    Jodi Arias Trial Day 21 Cross Examination Part 2 PM:text messages and phone calls

    (1:02:37)
    Judge: 462 is admitted
    JM: Maíam you know who Alyce LaViolette is?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Sheís someone that is assisting you in this case, isnít it?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Isnít it true that you told her that the masturbatory conduct, the masturbatory conduct involving Mr. Alexander took place while he was on the computer?
    JA: No, I never said that
    JM: Isnít it true that you heard a statement from her indicating that you told her that the masturbatory conduct took place while he was on the computer?
    JA: No, Iíve never heard her say that.
    JM: Maíam were you here at a hearing
    KN: Objection your honor, may I approach?
    Judge: You may

    (1:05:45)
    JM: Maíam isnít it true that you hear Ms. LaViolette indicate that you told her that you saw Mr. Alexander masturbating to images on a computer?
    JA: No, I heard you say that in the hearing.
    JM: Well, maíam do you remember that I played a snippet with her voice on it?
    JA: Yes, but I couldnít understand it
    JM: Did you hear that snippet, yes or not?
    JA: I heard it, but I didnít understand it
    JM: Iím not asking you if you understood it, isnít it true that you were here when that snippet was played?
    JA: Yes
    JM: That snippet involved whether or not she had ever told the prosecution that you told her that you saw Mr. Alexander masturbating to images on a computer.
    JA: Thatís right


    JM: Let go ahead and continue with the text messages. This is now exhibit 462 and it includes the outgoing which is Mr. Alexanderís text messages, right?
    JA: Thatís right
    JM: And we were talking about exchanging cars of going to FHE, family home evening, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: And maíam you did indicate something about whether or not you called them, or did you say you did or did not call him that morning?
    JA: I said I donít remember
    JM: So it could be true that you did not call him that morning?
    KN: Objection
    Judge: Sustained
    JM: So it is true that you do not know if you called him that morning, well let me do this. It could be that you did not call him that morning?
    JA: It could be because I donít remember.
    JM: And again is this issue with your lack of memory because of these questions, the way theyíre being posed?
    JA: No
    JM: Does it have to do with the volume of the person asking the questions?
    JA: No, I think itís the length of time
    JM: Is it, is it yes or no, the volume?
    JA: That would be no.

    JM: So at 7:20 you send her or send her or send him a text message, Nevermind one of the stores I need to go closes and eight, Iíll just go tomorrow, so that was one minute later, itís the same message that you sent before, correct?
    JA: Thatís correct
    JM: And then Mr. Alexander sends you a text message at 7:24 pm right?
    JA: Right
    JM: And he says ďI got a ride from some peeps in the ward now you can just go get it. Let me know when you make the exchange.Ē Isnít he telling you that he went to the Family Home Evening there?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So he did go to the FHE, right?
    JA: Iím assuming
    JM: Well, thereís nothing else indicated here, other than family home evening, right?
    JA: That's right
    JM: And FHE from your experience when you were going, how long would does it last?
    JA: Usually about an hour, depending on the event. Sometimes thereís special events going on there.
    JM: And then there are other events that may come along afterwards, right?
    JA: I donít know, I usually went home after FHE
    JM: To your knowledge did they end after the hour or were there chances that, even though you may not have attended, they would have gone on longer than that.
    KN: Objection, calls for speculation
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: I guess there was a change
    JM: Iím asking from your knowledge when you were going.
    JA: typically we all dispersed. It was a Monday night, we didnít hang out later
    JM: Okay. Then at 7:25 you sent him a text message that appears to be in response to that one, cause itís one minutes later, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and you say I'm almost asleep, we'll see, right?
    JA: Right
    JM: Youíre talking about exchanging the car, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: The big concern here is exchanging the car, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: It doesnít have anything to do with what you claim you saw, right?
    JA: Umm, weíre talking about the car in this text messages.
    JM: And the point is, is that youíre talking about very pedestrian issues, such as exchanging a car, youíre not talking about Travis, I saw you masturbating and things like that, right?
    JA: It wasnít a pedestrian issue with Travis.
    JM: Pardon
    JA: The car was not a pedestrian issue with Travis
    JM: So youíre equating this issue with the car, the same as him masturbating to images of kids, is that what youíre saying?
    JA: No, Not by a long shot, no thatís not what Iím saying.
    JM: Then heís talking about you obviously don't need it that bad. I got a ride so you could go get the car, now youíre going to sleep, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: Heís made or tried to make arrangements for you to pick up your car, right?
    JA: I donít know which car I was driving.
    JM: Well, he didnít have a car because he got a ride with somebody else, right?
    JA: Thatís not why he got a ride
    JM: Well when he's riding with somebody else, his carís not with him, right?
    JA: Thatís right
    JM: And so he's without a car at FHE or wherever it is that he went.
    JA: yes
    JM: You have a car
    JA: Yes
    JM: his car, right?
    KN: Objection
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: I don't remember which car I was driving
    JM: Well, it wouldnít have been his car, because you wouldnít have needed to exchange his car for his car, right?
    JA: It would have been mine or his
    JM: So, youíre driving his car, right?
    KN: Objection, asked and answered
    Judge: Overruled
    JA: Iíve already said that I donít remember which car Iím driving
    JM: You indicated previously that after this happened, you went home and he kept trying to call you over and over, right?
    JA: Um, I had voicemails from him, or missed calls
    JM: That means he kept trying to call you over and over again, right?
    JA: Right
    JM: Whether he left voicemails or whatever, he kept trying to call you, right?
    JA: I believe, yeah, he did.
    JM: And you didnít respond to those calls, right?
    JA: Not immediately, I was at the visitation center, the Visitorís Center
    JM: Excuse me
    JA: so I had my phone volume off.
    JM: You were what?
    JA: I was at the Visitorís Center
    JM: What visitorís center are you talking about?
    JA: The one by the Mesa temple
    JM: And is that where you went after this incident happened
    JA: Thatís where I ended up after driving
    JM: Is this where youíre almost asleep?
    JA: No this is after the fact
    JM: So now youíre back at home, right and in between then and, well in between what you say you saw and when youíre home, thatís when you have all these calls, right?
    JA: From the time I ran out of his house he called
    JM: From the time you ran out of his house til what time of night are these calls coming in?
    JA: til I called him back
    JM: When, what time
    JA: As soon as I left the Visitorís center, I called him.
    JM: Right, so youíre sure that thereís a bunch of calls that he made to you and then they sort of piled up, whether theyíre voice messages or missed calls and then you returned his call, right?
    JA: Thatís how I remember it, yes
    JM: Actually, thatís not the way it really went on that day. Isnít it true maíam that there were actually 5 calls between you and him. Where he called you five times and you called him back five times. Did you know that?
    JA: There were many more than five, there may be five from his cell phone
    JM: Iím asking cellphone to cellphone and youíre saying that at that time you only had your cellphone. And he left you five, or he left you calls, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Actually there were only five calls from him all day long to you on the 21st, isnít that true?
    JA: Thatís not true
    JM: Isnít it true there was only 5 return calls from you on that day
    JA: That might be true
    JM: And in fact when you say that heís calling you all these times, actually didnít it go this way that you called him at 3:53 in the evening or the afternoon, didnít you?
    JA: That sounds accurate.
    JM: And then you called him again at 4:09 in the evening, didnít you?
    JA: That sounds accurate
    JM: And he returned your call at 4:29, right.
    JA: I believe he did
    JM: And then you called him back at 4:53, right?
    JA: That sounds accurate
    JM: Well, I thought you said that there was this issue that you were not returning his calls. It looks like youíre returning his calls and heís calling you back.
    JA: well thatís probably his cell phone
    JM: Well, what difference does it make if itís his cellphone or not? Isnít that a telephone call?
    JA: Yeah, but he has a land line he called me on frequently.
    JM: Right, but Iím talking about that day, the calls that were made. What was his landline number, maíam?
    JA: I donít have it memorized, cause it was just in my phone as Travis Alexander
    JM: so, he called, you called him at 4:53 and then he returned you call to him at 4:54 pm, remember that?
    JA: I donít recall that specific, but
    JM: Isnít it true he then called you back at 5:11 pm, remember that?
    JA: Not specifically
    JM: How about him calling you back at 5:20 pm
    JA: I donít remember specifically.
    JM: And how about him calling you back at 5:48, pm
    JA: I just know he called me a lot that day
    JM: And then you returned his call at 5:53 pm, do you remember any of that?
    JA: The time sounds accurate
    JM: Well then if we go then to 462 which is the text messages, we have these calls and then it picks up with text messages, you see that?
    JA: Yes
    JM: The communication does, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So there was never a time when, as you said previously, when you and he are not communicating. Youíre either communicating by telephone or text message, arenít you?
    JA: No, thereís a gap.
    JM: You said that it was right that you called him at 5:53 pm, right? You just said that that was right.
    JA: It sounds about right, I donít remember the times.
    JM: Right, and then the first message after this call you said sounds right at 5:53 pm is at 6:41, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Less than an hour later, right?
    JA: the text, yes
    JM: And then at 7:19, right?
    JA: yes
    JM: And if we say, hypothetically speaking that family home evening starts at seven, heís already at family home evening by the time that he sends you this text at 7:24, right?
    JA: Thatís right.

    (1:17:56)
    JM: You then say at 7:29 pm ďI fell asleep and a phone call woke me upĒ, right?
    JA: What date is that?
    JM: the 21st maíam
    JA: Thatís right, okay
    JM: I fell asleep and a phone call woke me up. I thought you said you at the LDS center at Dobson and Southern
    JA: Not by this time
    JM: Well, I thought you were asleep
    JA: I went home and crashed, Iíd been crying and I had a migraine.
    JM: So when did you go to sleep, give us a time.
    JA: I donít have a time that I fell asleep. I went to sleep after I went, came, left the Visitorís center
    JM: Well, when do you have time to sleep if youíre calling him back and heís calling you and then right after that you begin texting back and forth? When is it that you find the time to sleep?
    JA: Well, I didnít sleep for a long time, I just dozed off.
    JM: Well, you do say at 7:25pm that youíre almost asleep, weíll see about this car transfer thing, right?
    JA: Right
    JM: You do put the zzs on here indicating that youíre going to sleep, right
    JA: I was very tire, yes
    JM: So you went to sleep, you say you went to sleep.
    JA: I was laying there very tired. I think I fell asleep
    JM: Well then you say four minutes later ďI fell asleep and a phone call woke me up. Thatís when I sent you a text.Ē Thatís what you say, right?
    JA: Um, yeah
    JM: Well, when is it that youíre sleeping? Whatís waking you up between those four minutes? Whatís going on?
    JA: Um, I donít think Iím sleeping right there. I donít know. I fell asleep, he wanted me to get the car.
    JM: But heís at Family home evening, already and he doesnít care because heís already at family home evening isnít he?
    JA: He was a little upset because he got a ride because he thought I was gonna go get it.
    JM: But it didnít happen, did it?
    JA: No
    JM: And the big point going on here is not talking about anything that may have happened, youíre not saying youíre upset about anything; youíre just talking about this car being exchanged, right?
    JA: weíre talking specifically about the car being exchanged in the text
    JM: And you donít say anything like Iím upset, we need to talk, or anything like that, do you?
    JA: No
    JM: You say you have a really bad headache and that you can barely move, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And thatís at 7:36, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And then thereís a gap of about 2 hours or an hour and 45 minutes which could be with an activity with family home evening, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and he says alright, Iíll get it tomorrow, then, right?
    JA: He says for me to get it tomorrow
    JM: Alright, get it tomorrow, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: In other words, make the exchange of cars thatís going to happen, letís just do it tomorrow or you do it tomorrow, right?
    JA: Yes, whichever
    JM: Which indicates you arenít going to get together that night, are you?
    JA: At the moment, yet
    JM: Not at the moment, it says Ďdo it tomorrowĒ, right
    JA: when that text was sent, yes
    JM: But then you want to talk to him, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: Thatís at 9:16 pm you say ďCan you talk right nowĒ And he says ďno not right now.Ē, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Presumably if he went to family home evening, Iím not saying that he did, thatís probably what heís doing if he did go to, right?
    JA: if he did go, maybe if family home evening is still going on
    JM: If he did go, right? But previously, maíam you told us that he was the one that wanted to talk to you, right? Didnít you tell us that he kept calling and calling and calling until you relented? And then you went over, right?
    JA: He did want to talk to me, yes
    JM: But it looks here like you want to talk to him doesn't it.
    JA: I do now, yes
    JM: And then you still arenít together at 11:33 and you sent him a message ďHow longĒ, right?
    JA: thatís right
    JM: How long is he going to be out is what youíre asking him, arenít you?
    JA: No, how long til he is ready to talk
    JM: well thatís part of, given what weíve seen about this relationship, isnít that part of your jealousy because you want to know whatís going on that night?
    KN: Objection, argumentative
    Judge: Sustained
    JM: Maíam how long thatís you saying how long before we can talk, isnít that what it means
    JA: Yes
    JM: And then he says to you and the times arenít there, but he does and by that I mean there werenít written in he says did you use my phone this morning without asking?
    JA: Yes
    JM: So, if you got together that evening it was after 11:33 after he got done doing whatever hw was doing, right?
    JA: what was that questions
    JM: If you got together that evening it was after he got done doing whatever he was doing?
    JA: Thatís right
    JM: So, it doesn't seem like heís in a hurry to talk to you, does it?
    JA: I donít know
    JM: It doesnít seem like heís this upset like you portrayed him that he really wanted to talk to this issue that you say that you saw him engaged in, right?
    KN: Objection, calls for speculation
    Judge: Sustained
    JM: there are gaps here where heís doing whatever heís doing and youíre doing the asking Ďhow longí, right?
    JA: Thatís right
    JM: He then asks you if you used his phone in the morning without asking, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you tell him that you did, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: And you ask why and he says nothing, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Thereís an issue about the deposit and in fact you're asking him if he made the deposit, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: and he told you that you did, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: Is he giving you money there?
    JA: Whatís the date?
    JM: Pardon
    JA: Whatís the date on that one?
    JM: the 22nd
    JA: I think, I don't know what we were referring there
    JM: well you do say, your text message does say ďdid you make the deposit?Ē
    JA: yes
    JM: And he said yes, and then you say what
    JA: thank you, I'll make it up to you soon.
    JM: It looks like he lent you money there doesnít it?
    JA: Yes
    JM: Any idea how much money he lent you?
    JA: He lent me money in small increments, I donít remember
    JM: And he would do it if you needed it, right?
    JA: If he could, he would, yes
    JM: And if you needed it, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: That same day at 3:36 in the afternoon you say to him ďIím gonna need a ride at 4pm. Txt me.Ē Still the issue of the car, right?
    JA: Yes
    For him to
    JM: Whereís your car
    JA: Um, probably parked at his house
    JM: Howíd you get to work?
    JA: Sometimes he drove me and sometimes I carpooled with a co-worker
    JM: So what happened on this particular day?
    JA: I donít remember.
    JM: What time did you get to work?
    JA: I donít remember, I usually worked in the mornings, but sometimes I worked evenings also.
    JM: So this day, you were going to get off at 4:00, right?
    JA: Well, it would vary, if business permits
    JM: but thatís what it says there, right
    JA: Yes
    JM: And this is at 3:36, you want him to pick you up, right?
    JA: Yes
    JM: How long is your shift, usually, four, six, eight hours?
    JA: um depended on the flow of business, typically it was 4-6 hours
    JM: And then at 4:04 you sent him a text message: ďScratch that. Theyíre keeping me here til 5pm! =( can you pick me up then? The lunch offer from my voicemail still stands. What are you talking about?
    JA: For him to pick me up after work
    JM: Pardon
    JA: For him to pick me up after work
    JM: No, Iím asking about the lunch offer, Iím not asking about him picking you up.
    JA: I felt really bad for him after everything that happened, so I offered, I was just trying to feel better because if I were in his shoes, Iíd just want to jump off a bridge
    JM: So what about the lunch offer, what are you talking about?
    JA: Thatís what it was; I offered to get him lunch
    JM: Well itís 4:00 in the afternoon, lunch is usually at noon, isnít it?
    JA: well not for Travis
    JM: Then he says Sure. Iím almost off, yay, are you eating? If so, just sit at the counter, right?
    JA: Right
    JM: Throughout this whole text message between you and him, thereís no discussion about anything that may have happened on the 21st is there?
    JA: Not in text messages, definitely not.
    JM: The answer is no, right
    JA: No
    JM: And in terms of the phone calls that you claim were being made, there wasnít this barrage of phone calls from him that you didnít respond to. Actually it was more give and take, wasnít it?
    JA: He left a barrage of phone calls at one period of time, yes.
    JM: Pardon
    JA: he did. He left a barrage of phone calls
    JM: well, letís just take a look at his phone records, okay, so that we can see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    I guess I'm gonna answer me. I gather from googling "when did Jodi Arias confess to killing Travis Alexander" it happened in opening statement by her attorney. And then again on the first day she testified. So, trial bombshell indeed.
    I seem to remember hearing that the story of self-defense started in 2010. I can't remember where I read that though.
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    I was just looking over Flores' investigation report and noticed that Flores got the pics of Jodi from Travis' camera on 6-19, 6 days before her 6-25 phone interview. It's interestIng to go back and listen to the 6-25 interview knowing Flores already knows Jodi was at Travis' house on 6-4


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    Quote Originally Posted by minor4th View Post
    I was just looking over Flores' investigation report and noticed that Flores got the pics of Jodi from Travis' camera on 6-19, 6 days before her 6-25 phone interview. It's interestIng to go back and listen to the 6-25 interview knowing Flores already knows Jodi was at Travis' house on 6-4
    Hello!

    I am a long time lurker, first time poster here. Went back to page 1 to listen to the 6/25 interview and couldn't find it in its entirety.

    So - I went out to the webz and managed to find this! : Jodi Arias - Police Phone Interviews June 10, 21 (vm) & 25, 2008 - YouTube

    Apologies if it's here somewhere and I missed it.
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