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    Margaret "Peggy" Hayes-Dumont - Aug 2, 2011 Was it murder?

    http://community.drphil.com/boards/?...CategoryID=117

    I can not find the whole story anywhere.

    The husband swears he finds his wife dead in the bathtub.. But there are so many questions.. Has anyone heard of this before?
    Juror #8: "It's always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. And wherever you run into it, prejudice always obscures the truth. I don't really know what the truth is. I don't suppose anybody will ever really know. Nine of us now seem to feel that the defendant is innocent, but we're just gambling on probabilities - we may be wrong. We may be trying to let a guilty man go free, I don't know. Nobody really can. But we have a reasonable doubt, and that's something that's very valuable in our system. No jury can declare a man guilty unless it's sure." -12 Angry Men 1957

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    no search results for me

    If W/S covered this, my searches did not uncover it.
    And my google searches resulted in zip. too.

    Maybe a more skilled searcher can get results.
    Anyone???

    Did you catch the city or state where this occurred?

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    I was not sure I thought they said New York State.
    They had a homicide detective on saying she saw signs if homicide even though local police said accident.
    Juror #8: "It's always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. And wherever you run into it, prejudice always obscures the truth. I don't really know what the truth is. I don't suppose anybody will ever really know. Nine of us now seem to feel that the defendant is innocent, but we're just gambling on probabilities - we may be wrong. We may be trying to let a guilty man go free, I don't know. Nobody really can. But we have a reasonable doubt, and that's something that's very valuable in our system. No jury can declare a man guilty unless it's sure." -12 Angry Men 1957

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    I didn't see Dr. Phil, but was this the guy whose wife drown in the bathtub, and she had written weird entities in her journal about how she thought she was going to die soon? If so, I saw it on Dateline.

    I have an acquaintance who is currently incarcerated for drowning his wife in the tub, but I don't believe him to be guilty. The gut from Dateline, though, I think is guilty based on what they showed.

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    "drowning death" expert

    Re expert on drowning events, who appeared on Dr. P. show, opining that death was a homicide---

    http://teamlgs.com/about/bio-andrea-zaferes/

    Above website w. her bio or CV had no ref to her working this 2011 case which the local LE deemed to be an accident.






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    Not clear to me from the Dr. P. show that local LE asked for her opinion. Maybe her friends asked?

    Husband's name: Kelly Dumont (sp. per caption on show).
    Wife: Margaret Hayes-Dumont
    Location: New York?
    Date: Aug 2, 2011

    Maybe wife's friends who appeared on the show have a facebook page or other site?
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    kelly dumond

    I looked for him here but didn't find him. Not sure if the wife's last name was Kelly but her first name was Margaret. Her 2 best friends are determined to prove that he killed her. It was them that hired the expert. He failed a poly administered by Dr Phil's lie detector guy. Things really point to him being guilty IMO.
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    margaret (peggy) hayes dumond

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    Quote Originally Posted by steff13 View Post
    I didn't see Dr. Phil, but was this the guy whose wife drown in the bathtub, and she had written weird entities in her journal about how she thought she was going to die soon? If so, I saw it on Dateline.

    I have an acquaintance who is currently incarcerated for drowning his wife in the tub, but I don't believe him to be guilty. The gut from Dateline, though, I think is guilty based on what they showed.

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    Hey! I remember that Dateline, this is a different guy.

    He got my hinky meter going! why would he go on Dr. Phil??? He wasn't a sympathetic figure IMO.
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    I watched this today and I really hope this case is reopened.
    There's such an underlying disdain when he spoke of his late wife! It was almost captivating, watching him unable to control his anger in a situation where he should have tried to keep it together in order to present his side, while knowing all eyes were on him. But he couldn't do it. This is an angry, hostile man (and one with a documented history of punching, kicking and slapping other women).

    And the best friends, saying they hope for a one-man motorcycle accident that sends the accused to a nursing home..? One can only HOPE to find friends like that in our lifetime. They hung in there, they didn't believe this man's story, and after watching this and listening to the investigator ~ I betcha they're RIGHT ON.

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    She sure has wonderful friends...many people would have just accepted a flawed investigation and gone on with their lives.

    I was also EXTREMELY impressed with the woman the ladies hired to investigate the "drowning". She wasn't about to let a loudmouth overwhelm her and, as she said, she is an impartial person who just wants the truth.

    Great show, I had never heard of this case before and although they only showed him getting up from his chair after the polygraph results were given, I believe he left the show? It ended right after that anyway.
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    Here is the facebook support page that was mentioned on the show:

    https://www.facebook.com/peggymargaret.hayesdumond
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    Im going to ask mod to change title to deceased real name. Thank you! I was trying to watch it and everyone was calling me at the same time!

    Off to read more and see what I can find.
    Juror #8: "It's always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. And wherever you run into it, prejudice always obscures the truth. I don't really know what the truth is. I don't suppose anybody will ever really know. Nine of us now seem to feel that the defendant is innocent, but we're just gambling on probabilities - we may be wrong. We may be trying to let a guilty man go free, I don't know. Nobody really can. But we have a reasonable doubt, and that's something that's very valuable in our system. No jury can declare a man guilty unless it's sure." -12 Angry Men 1957

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    One of the BEST things Dr. Phil did was ask that guy what he thought of the polygraph examiner, and after he said he thought he was great and respected him...BOOM! Deceptive!
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    I am Nancy the friend. On Dr.Phil speaking on behalf of Margaret who was silenced

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    Im going to ask mod to change title to deceased real name. Thank you! I was trying to watch it and everyone was calling me at the same time!

    Off to read more and see what I can find.
    We have set up a Facebook page for her at Peggy Hayes Dumond

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    You can go to the Facebook page Peggy Hayes Dumond

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    I am Nancy who spoke on behalf of Margaret "Peggy" Hayes Dumond on the Dr.Phil show. We have set up a Facebook page Peggy Hayes Dumond

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluenoser View Post
    I looked for him here but didn't find him. Not sure if the wife's last name was Kelly but her first name was Margaret. Her 2 best friends are determined to prove that he killed her. It was them that hired the expert. He failed a poly administered by Dr Phil's lie detector guy. Things really point to him being guilty IMO.
    You can get the entire story on the Facebook page we set up for her Peggy Hayes Dumond

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    Quote Originally Posted by al66pine View Post
    If W/S covered this, my searches did not uncover it.
    And my google searches resulted in zip. too.

    Maybe a more skilled searcher can get results.
    Anyone???

    Did you catch the city or state where this occurred?
    You can go to the Facebook page Peggy Hayes Dumond

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    Margaret Hayes Dumond's Murder

    I am Nancy the best friend and more important the voice for Margaret since she was silenced by her "grifter,abusive, parasite" of. Husband

    There is a Facebook page that will answer all your questions, and if they don't I would be more happy to answer any questions that are not answered on the page.

    Facebook: Peggy Hayes Dumond

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    Arrow Andrea Zaferes???

    I'm curious as to how exactly Andrea Zaferes came to review the drowning info.
    By whose request initially?
    Paid?
    If so, by who?

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    Andrea Zaferes was put in contact with Nancy by the New York State Police. After she heard and saw all the facts of this case, she has agreed to do all she can to have this case re-opened and have the Medical Examiner Dr. Michael Sikirika change his ruling of cause of death from Accidental Drowning to Undetermined, Suspicious or homicide.

    Andrea is doing this case pro-bono for both the NYS Police and the family/friends of Margaret.

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    Margaret "Peggy" Hayes Dumond

    Please follow the progress of this case on Facebook: Justice for Margaret

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    This show just aired in Norway today.

    A bathtub really is a dangerous thing!! I'm talking Kathleen Scavio and Michele Martin!!

    The husband comes across as extremely obnoxious and his behaviour right after the death of his wife is highly inappropriate. Selling her furniture, having his new girlfriend visit etc.

    I too was impressed by the drowning expert. She didn't have a single argument why this could be an accident, but came down with 4-5 reasons why it was murder.

    I hope her friends, Justice4Margaret and others, continues to fight for justice.

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    Did the FB page close?

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