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  1. #1
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    FL - Little Talbot Island, WhtMale 79UMFL, 40-60, leaning against tree, Jan'90

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 79UMFL
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/79umfl.html
    NamUs UP 961 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/961



    Sketch of Victim by J. McMillan

    Unidentified White Male
    Located on January 20, 1990 on Little Talbot Island, Duval County, Florida.
    Estimated Date of Death: 3 - 6 months prior to discovery.
    Cause of Death: homicide, gunshot
    State of Remains: Partial Skeletal

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 40 - 60 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 6'2" - 6'4"; 250 - 290 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Graying sandy blonde and almost straight hair. Wide face.
    Clothing: He was wearing a size 40 blue button-down shirt; blue "Hager" pants size 40 long; a white T-shirt; a light gray jacket; black socks; size 13 black leather shoes with laces; white boxer underwear; and a brown belt. He was carrying a hat/visor.
    Personal Effects : A key chain with 4 keys, 2 being car key of General Motors', a government-issued ball point pen, black frame, non prescription sunglasses, super glue, nail clippers, plastic comb and a black smoking pipe.
    Skeletal Findings : Possible old laminectomy L4-L5; styloid process on right ulna was very short or broken away and remaining stump eburnated; perforation through left maxillary sinus with fistulous tract from chronic sinus infection; one or more healed fractures of nasal bones; at least partially healed fracture of right second rib.
    Fingerprints: Not available. Unobtainable.
    Dentals: Available, Extensive dental work. #5&9: root canal therapy completed; #23-26: fractured; #13: acrylic composite/veneer; #20: tilted distally; #27: rotated; #2,3,7,9,10,11, 12,15 & 18: severe bone loss.
    DNA: Pending

    Case History
    The victim's skeletal remains located Off the Atlantic coast, at 15000 Block of Hecksher Drive, twenty miles from downtown Jacksonville, Florida, On Little Talbot Island, in a wooded area.
    Little Talbot Island is a undeveloped, barrier island near the Duval/Nassau County line, in Northeast Florida. The entire island - 2,500 acres - is a State Park.

    He was found resting up against a tree and seated on plastic material.

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    The height is off, but I couldn't help but notice the resemblance of Edward F. Grossman to the reconstruction for this John Doe.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8039/0
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...an_edward.html



    Aside from the height, everything else seems plausible.
    * His age (59) is within range (40-60)
    * The timeline is right - LKA (Sep-89) to Discovery (Jan-90) is 4 months - Consistent with the 3-6 month postmortem interval.
    * The circumstances indicate that he would not necessarily be expected to be found near the area from where he disappeared (Wyoming County NY)

    The rule-out list contains 19 names, but not his.

    There is no DNA or Dentals on him, so they might have trouble comparing him.

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    Looks worthwhile to me, Carl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    The height is off, but I couldn't help but notice the resemblance of Edward F. Grossman to the reconstruction for this John Doe.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8039/0
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...an_edward.html



    Aside from the height, everything else seems plausible.
    * His age (59) is within range (40-60)
    * The timeline is right - LKA (Sep-89) to Discovery (Jan-90) is 4 months - Consistent with the 3-6 month postmortem interval.
    * The circumstances indicate that he would not necessarily be expected to be found near the area from where he disappeared (Wyoming County NY)

    The rule-out list contains 19 names, but not his.

    There is no DNA or Dentals on him, so they might have trouble comparing him.
    Grossman is said to have black hair, while the UID had graying blond hair. That would lead me to think this isn't him. But the 2 photos of Grossman are so different, which makes it difficult to say for sure.

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    Exclusions
    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    Elito Castro 0
    Ernest E. Cofield 0
    Phillip Crossan 0
    Leen Dykhuizen 0
    Roy Hagel 1950 North Dakota
    Gerard J. Hanrahan 1941 Massachusetts
    Ronald Peter Lombardo 0
    Peter Strother Madison 0
    Sydney Manning 0
    Richard Masson 0
    George Miles 1927 Maryland
    Tracey, AKA Tracy, Walter Miracle 1926 Kentucky
    Hanson Oates 0
    Gordon Thomas Page, Jr 1963 Michigan
    Johnny L. Parker 0
    Fred M. Russ 0
    William C. Taylor, VII 0
    Marten Van Harten 1956 Florida
    Ronald Westwick 1944 Iowa



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