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    CA - Apparent altar containing bones, human skull, found in a Pasadena back yard

    Altar containing human bones found in Pasadena back yard (Pasadena Star-News)
    PASADENA - Police detectives and coroner's officials are investigating after the discovery of an apparent altar of some kind containing bones, including a human skull, in a Pasadena back yard.
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    While searching over the area, however, officers did find "some type of makeshift altar" in a residential back yard, Clawson.

    The pile of items was comprised of sticks, candles, incense, burned artifacts, animal bones, human bones and a human skull.

    The bones were were collected by the Los Angeles County Department of Coroner for examination, coroner's Lt. Cheryl MacWillie said.
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    more at the link above

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    Altar containing human bones found in Pasadena back yard (Pasadena Star-News)
    more at the link above

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    A skull and other human bones have been found in a makeshift backyard altar in Pasadena. Cops call it "suspicious circumstances."
    Understatement!

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    A lot of religions include some type of ancestor worship. Could this be involved?

    I notice that they don't say who owned the property and whether or not it was occupied at the time of the discovery.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

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    A bit more info:
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    Investigators say the couple that lives in the home practices a West African and Caribbean religion known as Santeria, and they are cooperating.
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    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...les&id=8996761
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    "Having human bones is a little disconcerting," said Pasadena Lt. Ed Calatayud. "We respect everyone's religious right to practice. Our focus is on the bones."
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    video with this one; check out those statues: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...191626461.html

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    While looking up the connection with Santeria and human bones I found an odd site:

    http://www.palomayombe.net/Bones-Kiyumbas-Skulls.html

    Of course the bones could have been brought with them when they moved here, hopefully not taken from anyone's grave. Still looking what the human bones and connection to god(s) is, but got distracted by this store.

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    This article has a picture of the alter. ETA: scratch that, it is a video of the altar and looks like something you could find in any college town, hmmm...:

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...191626461.html
    Last edited by 21merc7; 02-18-2013 at 07:02 AM.

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    Here is a brief explanation of the reason for bones, just keep reading, it gets there on the next pages and explains both positive and negative beliefs:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=DgN...0bones&f=false

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    I'm finding loads of articles from all over the U.S. with similar stories throughout the years. I will not start posting those, lol.

    Another google book talking about a mythological/religious (not sure that is the right word) character using a human skull and a ram's head:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=FPc...0skull&f=false

    Sorry, I'm just fascinated by any and all religious practices and any and all findings of bones.

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    Another store, scroll to the end for the statues:

    http://www.thepumpkinandthecauldron....oosanteria.htm

    I love this stuff. We had a cool store like that here for years. I just liked walking in and looking around. It burned down, so unless the owner burned it, the stuff didn't work for him. Oh, a new one opened down the street from where I live now, I haven't had the curiosity I used to have to go in. Maybe I'll get the nerve this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21merc7 View Post
    While looking up the connection with Santeria and human bones I found an odd site:

    http://www.palomayombe.net/Bones-Kiyumbas-Skulls.html
    That sight is freaky. Unless donating one's body is a VERY popular thing in Haiti (which I doubt) I am guessing these bones are the result of grave robbing which is a big problem in some areas.

    I wouldn't mind bones donated to medical research BUT bones robbed from graves in Haiti are just WAY TOO CREEPY!

    Digging up graves and stealing the coffins (to reuse or resell them) is also popular. Photo of a coffin being stolen after the earthquake, guess they just dump the body on the ground or throw it back into the open crypt.

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    It's really not that far removed from the Catholic and Orthodox practice of venerating the relics (bodies, bones, bits of hair, clothing, etc) of saints. Often the relics are placed on an altar for the public to venerate. The last time we had a relic come through our church it was one of the (bloody) hand coverings of Padre Pio (recently sainted priest who bore the stigmata on his hands), and in addition to being venerated at one of the side altars, one could also have the priest give a blessing while the relic was touched to one's forehead.

    Relics are also traditionally placed inside the altar of a church, often the patron of the parish.

    I am fascinated by relics and such. They are a tangible connection to our forefathers and mothers in family and community.
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    www.luckymojo.com also sells all sorts of bones, mostly animal but some human. Other sites sell human bones too.

    I doubt very much there is a crime here. I "throw bones" myself, but my set has no human bones in it, only animal bones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michmi View Post
    I doubt very much there is a crime here. I "throw bones" myself, but my set has no human bones in it, only animal bones.
    I agree, I doubt if this involved a crime (by the practitioner using the alter). Having said that I suspect there is a GOOD chance a crime was involved before the bones were sold or changed hands.

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