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    IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #29

    In Memory of Elizabeth Collins and Lyric Cook



    "Our hearts and prayers go out to the families and friends of those precious little girls. The Black Hawk County Sheriff's Office pledges vigilance in our pursuit of those responsible and will extend every resource to concluding this case so that justice may prevail."
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    Posted by the Black Hawk County Sheriff's Office - December 10, 2012
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    IA-Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 *Media/Maps/TmLne* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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    Amandareckonwith's case archive

    Related: IA IA - Kathlynn Shepard, 15, Dayton, 20 May 2013 - abduction of 2 girls, 1 located - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    and Hollye's Case Map

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    IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, and Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #29

    Continue the discussion here:

    Please review the rules about discussion or speculation about family members:

    Originally Posted by imamaze
    Please remember the following when discussing the case:
    Websleuths is a moderated forum. We strive to discuss cases in a friendly environment.


    Things to know before you post:
    Leave the snark -- and the rumors --at the door.
    Treat other posters with respect.
    Do not sleuth individuals who have not been mentioned in MSM either as persons of interest or as suspects by LE.
    Choose the links you post wisely; don't link to sites which feature bizarre speculation, etc.
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    Remember: you can disagree with a post and address it, but you do NOT attack the poster.

    No one has been named by LE or MSM as a POI or suspect in this case.
    The parents, whatever you may personally think about them, have not been named.
    That means that they, and their families, their neighbors, and their friends and "associates," are not to be sleuthed or badmouthed.

    fyi: Any rules that are changed in other cases are considered on a case by case basis by administration. The above are the rules to discuss THIS case.

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    IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, and Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #29

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    Pointer to photos from Amandareckonwith's case archive: http://s296.beta.photobucket.com/use...l?sort=6&o=124
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    Pointer to photos from Amandareckonwith's case archive: http://s296.beta.photobucket.com/use...l?sort=6&o=124
    This photo clearly shows the containment area (private land) abutting the wood (also partially private).

    http://s296.beta.photobucket.com/use...79556929241374
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    Regarding the mention of a memorial at Seven Bridges near where the bodies were found, there are plastic flowers or something at the gate at the entrance (if I recall from my pictures). The park is closed for the winter.

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    not jumping into the 7 bridges debate

    1) because I think the area previously mapped by Otto to be correct but I do not wish to right fight and SS seems pretty well convinced that her area is right.

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    2) the MSM state a number of times that the area the girls was found on is public land and not private so that is good enough for me. (Not going to go find links because as I said, I have no wish to be involved in the debate)

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    Does anyone recall when Misty is getting out of rehab? I'm curious about what her input will be re: the memorial at Meyers Lake for the girls.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SapphireSteel View Post
    This photo clearly shows the containment area (private land) abutting the wood (also partially private).

    http://s296.beta.photobucket.com/use...79556929241374
    That's a picture along 270th St showing that the entrance to Seven Bridges is 3/4 miles ahead. That signage is next to the farmland outside the park, probably well over a mile from where the girls were actually located. (3/4 miles to the entrance + distance to the remains)

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    After all this time, armed with what little facts we have to go on , what do you all feel that the killer has as far as characteristics to look out for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelsea6 View Post
    After all this time, armed with what little facts we have to go on , what do you all feel that the killer has as far as characteristics to look out for?
    I feel that this was planned and well-executed with more than 1 person being involved. The person responsible is powerful, threatening, elusive, and able to keep people from talking due to fear of harm, retaliation, or meeting a similar fate and/or he is able to provide them money, drugs, goods. I don't think the original intent of the abduction was murder, but unplanned or unforseen consequences obviously resulted in the girls being dead!

    Just my opinion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chelsea6 View Post
    After all this time, armed with what little facts we have to go on , what do you all feel that the killer has as far as characteristics to look out for?
    Killers murder their own kind. He is a white male, heterosexual, large man because he can man handle two girls. He is a hunter, and a con artist able to manipulate. He is local and lives within 10 miles of Evandale. You would never suspect him, he has no record. He is narcissistic and lacks empathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelsea6 View Post
    After all this time, armed with what little facts we have to go on , what do you all feel that the killer has as far as characteristics to look out for?
    I'll bite.

    I think this crime was well planned by a local male perp with the time to observe the girls, the neighborhood and area surrounding Meyers Lake and the Collins' home. He was aware of which homes in the lake area were and were not occupied during the day and the habits of those who lived in the immediate area. I think he was aware of anyone who routinely came home for lunch and of the time the daycare children walked around the lake. I think he planned the abduction down to smallest detail. I think he purposefully chose two girls and chose to take them in the middle of the day because he correctly believed that it would bring quick and significant attention from the msm and the FBI and notierity was part of his goal. I think he has enjoyed watching LE search for the girls and may have participated. With the lack of coverage at this time, he may be upset about not getting attention or he may be concerned that he left evidence at 7 Bridges and LE is watching him. Regarding personality, I would suggest that he is someone without empathy and someone who is a rule-breaker. I think it's likely that he has speeding and /or parking tickets and may have a couple of convictions of small crimes. I believe that he has had inappropriate interactions with children or young teens that have not been reported to an adult or if they have been, he has passed them off as "joking" or as misunderstandings. I imagine him as someone who likes to boast and who exaggerates any accomplishments. He manipulates those around him by being charming at times if it accomplishes his goal for the moment. He will also use intimidation to get what he wants. He is someone that people believe is "an OK fellow, just a little odd at times" and no one suspects him of possibly being capable of abducting and murdering two children.

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