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    If Danielle was drinking she probably would have left her car in Philly with the intention of retrieving it the next morning. I don't remember reading anything about her car being parked in Philly before these last few posts. Maybe her mother or someone picked her up with the intention of Richard driving her home that night. This case is very odd since there are two missing people instead of one. If she had been driving by herself back to NJ that night I could think of many things that could have happened but what could possibly have happened to a man and a woman driving from PA to NJ? Maybe they got into a car accident and their car went off the road and has been sitting in a ditch somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wenchie
    I defintely don't think she would have left her car there if they were headed to her house, though. What a hassle...coming back in the morning for it, worrying about it being left overnight, paying for parking, etc.
    Has it been established that she drove her car into Philly that day or where her car was left? I don't find it at all unusual that she'd leave her car to drive with him. I've been in similar scenarios countless times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachael
    If she had been driving by herself back to NJ that night I could think of many things that could have happened but what could possibly have happened to a man and a woman driving from PA to NJ? Maybe they got into a car accident and their car went off the road and has been sitting in a ditch somewhere.
    But if they were coming straight from South Street to Mt. Laurel, I don't know if there are any ditches into which they could have driven, at least not without having been found by now. The road from there to here is VERY developed. I just can't see it. That doesn't mean that it's impossible but I don't think you could get yourself this lost between South Street & Mt. Laurel if you tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyGirl
    But if they were coming straight from South Street to Mt. Laurel, I don't know if there are any ditches into which they could have driven, at least not without having been found by now. The road from there to here is VERY developed. I just can't see it. That doesn't mean that it's impossible but I don't think you could get yourself this lost between South Street & Mt. Laurel if you tried.

    I have driven into Mt.Laurel a few times so I know what you are talking about. It seems like a pretty busy road to me. Maybe they stopped somewhere for a bite to eat. The whole thing is very strange.
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    No, there really aren't any ditches.....and I'm sure the entire route has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb.

    It's just so strange, and if they did just head back to her house, the whole area is so crowded that if something had happened, someone would have to have seen it.

    Is there any evidence that he took her back to his place? That would make more sense in terms of her leaving her car behind.

    It's scary to think that two people could just disappear like that. I live so close to Mt. Laurel and have a daughter Danielle's age - but that is not why this has caught my interest.

    It's that there doesn't seem to be much more that can be done in the way of searching or trying to figure out where they went. It seems to be such a dead end - unless LE knows things they're not talking about.


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    It is really odd how all of these adults (and children) go missing without a trace. They just disappear off the face of the earth. I hope LE has some inside info that they are just not sharing at this point. I would hate to see two more families go on forever with no answers.
    Just my opinion of course!!


  7. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyGirl
    That doesn't mean that it's impossible but I don't think you could get yourself this lost between South Street & Mt. Laurel if you tried.
    It's also very hard to drive into the Delaware River...
    Unfortunately, it's free to go over the bridge going into Jersey. I bet the police have checked EZPass records (if they had a transponder) to see if they came back over any of the bridges through the tolls...

    Was her car parked at a metered spot? Or in one of the garages? Does anyone know which street?


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    I usually take the Commodore Barry to NJ since I live closer to it. They do not need an EZpass or pay a toll to go into NJ just to return to PA on most bridges I believe.
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    Not sure - but I think that all traffic going both ways at the tollbooths is videoed. So - LE just might know if they ever crossed the bridge, but are laying low about it?


    It is scary - and it seems like the news stories about it are dying down. Guess there's not much they can say if there's nothing new.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachael
    I usually take the Commodore Barry to NJ since I live closer to it. They do not need an EZpass or pay a toll to go into NJ just to return to PA on most bridges I believe.
    All five bridges close to me only collect tolls into PA; I have heard that all of the bridges are that way so you are right ... if they were coming back into Jersey from Philly, they wouldn't have had to stop at a toll booth. I suspect that wenchie is also correct that the traffic is videotaped. I don't know if every bridge does that but I noticed for the first time last summer that the Betsy Ross Bridge has quite a few cameras. I imagine that in post 9-11 America most large bridges might have video surveillance. If the Betsy's got it, I would think for sure that the Walt Whitman and especially the Ben Franklin do as well. And IMO, if they made it back to Jersey that night, they would have taken one of those 3 bridges.

    Where have the searches been done? I know they searched in Philly in locations by the Delaware but I also heard that they were going to search in the Pine Barrens in Jersey. So I don't know if perhaps the police have shown their hand at all by searching in one state as opposed to the other? That could have been telling in terms of what they might know that we don't.

    I can't believe how much time has passed. I really didn't think that it was going to be anywhere near this long when I first heard of this couple. Their poor children - they can't possibly understand something like this.

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    I'm still not clear on if they've verified if they went back to his place that night - (which would have made her leaving her car in town more sense).

    If they're searching the Pine Barrens - that's a very bad sign! The Pine Barrens stretch from right past the Cherry Hill area to - Toms River (among other places). And it's a huge area, especially for someone who has 4WD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wenchie
    I'm still not clear on if they've verified if they went back to his place that night - (which would have made her leaving her car in town more sense).

    If they're searching the Pine Barrens - that's a very bad sign! The Pine Barrens stretch from right past the Cherry Hill area to - Toms River (among other places). And it's a huge area, especially for someone who has 4WD.
    I thought that they were going to go back to HER place that night.

    BTW, I think it was the family that decided to search sections of the Pine Barrens, not LE. I don't know what LE has searched or suggested.

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    I read that Richard's friends (the ones that they were out with the night they disappeared) said that Danielle was affectionate with Richard that night at the bar. And that his truck was parked fairly close to the bar. I don't know where all of this info about her car came from. Richard was supposed to be driving her home that night. Her car very well may have been at her house in NJ.

    I also believe his family is the one that wants to search the Pine Barrens. They just want answers. How terrible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachael
    I read that Richard's friends (the ones that they were out with the night they disappeared) said that Danielle was affectionate with Richard that night at the bar. And that his truck was parked fairly close to the bar. I don't know where all of this info about her car came from. Richard was supposed to be driving her home that night. Her car very well may have been at her house in NJ.
    You're right ... this is the only place where I've heard anything at all about her car.

    As for Danielle being affectionate with Richard, I've never seen it said that she didn't like him. In fact, the reports make it seem as if she was well aware of how great he was to her. I never really got the impression that she wanted to break up with him because she didn't care about him but only because she needed a break from the stress. It seems like her husband was still interested in reconciling with her, and if he and Richard were arguing on the phone from time to time, I'm sure that she must have heard about it from one of them. So maybe she felt it was just better for everyone if she took a step back. That would explain why she still went out with Richard even if they were no longer "dating". Affection could still exist, and maybe she wasn't 100% sure that she didn't want to date Richard anymore. Maybe they were broken up, then she was affectionate with him at the bar, and he felt confused. Perhaps he said something like "Are we dating or are we not?", and they decided to drive somewhere to talk before going home. If that were the case, as we've said, they could be almost anywhere, and I wouldn't even know how to begin searching for them or for an outside perpetrator.

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    That's what I thought when I read about her saying she wanted some time for herself.

    It's not uncommon for a woman (or a man) to say that they want some breathing room from a relationship(s) and then break that resolve shortly afterwards.

    I've done it myself.


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