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    Yale hosts workshop teaching sensitivity to bestiality

    On Saturday afternoon, Yale hosted a “sensitivity training” in which students were asked to consider topics such as bestiality, incest, and accepting money for sex.

    Event director Giuliana Berry ’14 told Campus Reform in an interview on Monday that the workshop was brought to campus to teach students not to automatically judge people who may have engaged in these sorts of activities, but rather to respond with “understanding” and “compassion.”

    "People do engage in some of these activities that we believe only for example perverts engage in,” she said. “What the goal is is to increase compassion for people who may engage in activities that are not what you would personally consider normal.”

    http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4646

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    no thanks, no class needed for me or my kids. Ima keep judging those who commit incest and have sex with animals. I have no wish or desire to be "sensitive" to or tolerant of those folks.
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    oh boy...here we go....

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    "Here we go" where? It wasn't a "how to" class. It merely promoted understanding of the origins of rare sexual fetishes.

    We go around and around here trying to understand sociopaths. That doesn't mean we condone murder.

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    http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2013/0...exual-culture/

    The article that the student reporter K. Timpf referred to within her own. (this article doesn't address beastiality that I can see and only references incestous fantasies which were responses from anonymous students).

    Just my opinion but Ms. Timpf opened her article in a style that is taught in college. Grab your readers attention with the first sentence. She chose to focus on incest and bestiality in order to grab the attention of her readers. I see that a lot in reporting. A lot.

    But I did read the Yale article and this doesn't sound like such a bad idea. The Yale article opens with this sentence: "Roughly 55 students gathered in Linsly-Chittenden Hall Saturday evening to learn about masochistic sexual practices such as those depicted in “50 Shades of Grey.”

    I can't make a comment about 50 shades because I haven't read it. But, if contains masochism and masochistic fantasies then by all means it should be discussed in open dialogue because it's already been introduced into the mainstream consciousness. I don't know if this book has it or not?

    Incest will never be acceptable to the mainstream because our culture agrees that it is taboo. The same goes for beastiality. IMHO.

    I think that it's great that they addressed prostitution though. We all know that there are usually emotional and psychological experiences that trigger males and females to prostitute themselves that happened to them when they were younger. That those experience have impacted them in such a negative way that they think this is the only way to 1. support themselves 2. support the self medication they use to dull their pain and etc. Does that make prostitution okay? No. But should those that prostitute themselves be looked down on with scorn? No. There but for the grace of God go I.

    My take on this is that the students were allowed to ask questions anonymously and no matter what the question it was addressed by Jill McDevitt.

    One of the student directors said: "...but I think what Sex Week does is it clarifies all these dialogues and brings it into a space where students can figure out what should be talked about and what issues we should be discussing,”

    I agree with her, how can we know what we think, where we stand if we don't think about it and talk about it? How can we come to an agreement in our own lives as to what is normal and what is deviant?

    link to article the OP article talks about:
    http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2013/0...exual-culture/

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    ^^^^^Great post! Thanks not enough.

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    Now maybe people will leave that woman who wants to make out with the pig in the Geico commercial alone.

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    Some who attended the event hosted by a sex store owner did report having done a sex act on an animal. I'll never consider that an a part of normal sexual psychology, although suspect those few responses could have been b.s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    I agree with her, how can we know what we think, where we stand if we don't think about it and talk about it? How can we come to an agreement in our own lives as to what is normal and what is deviant?
    When it comes to bestiality there is a VERY clear line drawn, men raping female dogs is the same as raping small children. The act causes a severe amount of damage (regardless of the size of the dog) and can quite literally tear them apart and kill them!

    I have a BIG problem with that! Did the author address THAT? And if not why not? Why not throw in baby rape while she was at it? Maybe society needs to be more accepting of that too???

    To even hint at condoning bestiality while not pointing out the HORRIFIC dark side is irresponsible to an EXTREME!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2013/0...exual-culture/

    The article that the student reporter K. Timpf referred to within her own. (this article doesn't address beastiality that I can see and only references incestous fantasies which were responses from anonymous students).

    Just my opinion but Ms. Timpf opened her article in a style that is taught in college. Grab your readers attention with the first sentence. She chose to focus on incest and bestiality in order to grab the attention of her readers. I see that a lot in reporting. A lot.

    But I did read the Yale article and this doesn't sound like such a bad idea. The Yale article opens with this sentence: "Roughly 55 students gathered in Linsly-Chittenden Hall Saturday evening to learn about masochistic sexual practices such as those depicted in “50 Shades of Grey.”

    I can't make a comment about 50 shades because I haven't read it. But, if contains masochism and masochistic fantasies then by all means it should be discussed in open dialogue because it's already been introduced into the mainstream consciousness. I don't know if this book has it or not?

    Incest will never be acceptable to the mainstream because our culture agrees that it is taboo. The same goes for beastiality. IMHO.

    I think that it's great that they addressed prostitution though. We all know that there are usually emotional and psychological experiences that trigger males and females to prostitute themselves that happened to them when they were younger. That those experience have impacted them in such a negative way that they think this is the only way to 1. support themselves 2. support the self medication they use to dull their pain and etc. Does that make prostitution okay? No. But should those that prostitute themselves be looked down on with scorn? No. There but for the grace of God go I.

    My take on this is that the students were allowed to ask questions anonymously and no matter what the question it was addressed by Jill McDevitt.

    One of the student directors said: "...but I think what Sex Week does is it clarifies all these dialogues and brings it into a space where students can figure out what should be talked about and what issues we should be discussing,”

    I agree with her, how can we know what we think, where we stand if we don't think about it and talk about it? How can we come to an agreement in our own lives as to what is normal and what is deviant?

    link to article the OP article talks about:
    http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2013/0...exual-culture/
    BBM, Well, I think (hope) we all feel bestiality is deviant. If we don't, what do we have to look forward to as a nation - a wedding between a perv and his ewe?

    And make no mistake, some will be defending this deviant's right to marry whatever he pleases, and get a tax cut to boot, and maybe a farm subsidy along the way.

    My opinion only


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonya610 View Post
    When it comes to bestiality there is a VERY clear line drawn, men raping female dogs is the same as raping small children. The act causes a severe amount of damage (regardless of the size of the dog) and can quite literally tear them apart and kill them!

    I have a BIG problem with that! Did the author address THAT? And if not why not? Why not throw in baby rape while she was at it? Maybe society needs to be more accepting of that too???

    To even hint at condoning bestiality while not pointing out the HORRIFIC dark side is irresponsible to an EXTREME!
    Sorry, I didn't read your post before I wrote mine. Just imagine the world will might be living in if sex with animals is A-OK and it's hateful and horrid for anyone to denounce it. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonya610 View Post
    When it comes to bestiality there is a VERY clear line drawn, men raping female dogs is the same as raping small children. The act causes a severe amount of damage (regardless of the size of the dog) and can quite literally tear them apart and kill them!

    I have a BIG problem with that! Did the author address THAT? And if not why not? Why not throw in baby rape while she was at it? Maybe society needs to be more accepting of that too???

    To even hint at condoning bestiality while not pointing out the HORRIFIC dark side is irresponsible to an EXTREME!
    Sonya in the article linked above the only mention of bestiality is to state that 3 percent of the people that had called in anonymously had admitted to acts of beastiality.

    Other survey responses revealed that three percent of attendees had engaged in bestiality, 22 percent had never had a sexual partner, 12 percent have filmed themselves during intercourse and 52 percent have engaged in consensual pain during intercourse.
    This was a seminar that discussed what was normal and what was deviant.

    A student reporter whose article is linked in the OP is the one that decided to focus on beastiality and incest.

    The Yale article from which she created her article is here:

    http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2013/0...exual-culture/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova View Post
    "Here we go" where? It wasn't a "how to" class. It merely promoted understanding of the origins of rare sexual fetishes.

    We go around and around here trying to understand sociopaths. That doesn't mean we condone murder.
    ..."Here we go..." as in, the minute we consider treating these people with compassion (as the article suggests), we begin our downward descent into the slippery slope of ....oh, let's call it....tolerance of such behaviors. I'm not buying it.

    Sorry if that offends you.

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    Just like I attended seminars on these subjects when working as a social worker and child abuse worker, the purpose is to gain an understanding of how to work with the victims and abusers.

    Yes, I think everybody here recognizes both beastiality and incest as crimes against animals and children and finds them repulsive. I did and do personally, but since it was part of my job I needed to know more about it and how to handle the cases.

    The people attending this seminar in their college will need the same understanding if they later work as social workers, psychologists, prosecutors, defense attorneys, judges, law enforcement.

    Learning about a subject such as this and attending a seminar does not mean that you endorse it or encourage it.

    As Kat has eloquently pointed out, the student author stuck some sensationalizing language on her article to get more readers and cause more outrage such as we see here. The original article does not have that language and very little about these subjects.

    No reason to get your panties all in a wad!


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    Quote Originally Posted by oh_gal View Post
    ..."Here we go..." as in, the minute we consider treating these people with compassion (as the article suggests), we begin our downward descent into the slippery slope of ....oh, let's call it....tolerance of such behaviors. I'm not buying it.

    Sorry if that offends you.
    Not offended, also not buying it.

    NAMBLA has been around for more than half-a-century (and the organization's ideas are historically the norm, not the exception); yet I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove that we are more tolerant of child molestation.

    It was an afternoon seminar, not a new major.

    And while I agree with Sonya's condemnation of animal cruelty, "bestiality" covers more territory than human males penetrating female animals. And even so only 3% of those attending the seminar admitted to having engaged in any bestial behaviors.

    That's hardly a rally for the right to have sex with animals!

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