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    The Water Tanks

    Was the lid on or off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borris View Post
    Was the lid on or off?
    That's a good question, and I'm not sure it was answered. I don't know why it would be such a secret. With the reviews and reports of malfunctioning equipment, it wouldn't shock me at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borris View Post
    Was the lid on or off?
    The only statement i can find that might reference the lid of the water tank:
    It’s unclear how Lam may have gotten onto the Cecil’s roof, which has no security cameras. LAPD Sgt. Rudy Lopez said the roof is “secured with an alarm, and a lock and a key to the door access,” according to CBC News, although the water tank itself is not locked.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1268631

    if he stated that the tank is unlocked, then it stands to reason that there would need to be a lid, right? It would be closed, just not locked. Otherwise they would have stated that it had been open.

    It also stands to reason that a dog would have possibly picked up the scent of decomposition if the lid was left off.

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    Another video from yesterday by a chinese investigator of Cecil.
    (music is a little creepy...you might want to mute it..)

    They are also updating pictures if you guys want to have a look too: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2184711531?see_lz=1

    [ame="http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTE5NDk1ODcy.html"]“可„CECIL…’—…–位Ž˜ˆ‹家†‘ Œ绝—*…œ‰‰€”œ线’*”€”˜…‘Œ †‘˜…œ线‚œ‹[/ame]

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    Oh the drama

    Well that cleared it all up for me!

    Quote Originally Posted by four_seasons View Post
    Another video from yesterday by a chinese investigator of Cecil.
    (music is a little creepy...you might want to mute it..)

    They are also updating pictures if you guys want to have a look too: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2184711531?see_lz=1

    蓝可儿CECIL酒店全方位探秘(独家视频 ,绝*仅有)—在线*放—优酷网, 频高清在线观看

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    Quote Originally Posted by four_seasons View Post
    Another video from yesterday by a chinese investigator of Cecil.
    (music is a little creepy...you might want to mute it..)

    They are also updating pictures if you guys want to have a look too: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2184711531?see_lz=1

    蓝可儿CECIL酒店全方位探秘(独家视频 ,绝*仅有)—在线*放—优酷网, 频高清在线观看
    That video @58 seconds shows the water tank with a ladder by it and the lid open. When was it taken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borris View Post
    That video @58 seconds shows the water tank with a ladder by it and the lid open. When was it taken?
    this was taken in the last 2 days. the video was posted today.but was uploaded yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medsleuth View Post
    Well that cleared it all up for me!
    Well, that's an odd avitar for such a Chinesey forum.
    Their photo of the tanks does not show a large hole cut in any of them.

    hmmm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by four_seasons View Post
    this was taken in the last 2 days. the video was posted today.but was uploaded yesterday.
    That would confirm the fire department's report that there was a ladder by the tank, and suspicions that the lid was off, not closed, as some suggested.

    There is also a lid off on another tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by houndstooth View Post
    Well, that's an odd avitar for such a Chinesey forum.
    Their photo of the tanks does not show a large hole cut in any of them.

    hmmm.
    Erm.. Did you scroll all the way down?
    There's a picture of the tank Elisa was found in, they cut a hole from the side. (You wouldn't expect them to cut a hole on the TOP right?)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold kervon View Post
    Erm.. Did you scroll all the way down?
    There's a picture of the tank Elisa was found in, they cut a hole from the side. (You wouldn't expect them to cut a hole on the TOP right?)
    I saw a video in a media account that showed where the square hole on the top of the tank had been "enlarged" into a rectangle.

    And no, I didn't scroll down to the bottom, but I am about to.

    Egads! I see. Well then, it still has "the water" in it, supposedly.
    All I can say is if that were really coming out of the taps, then people
    complaining about "low water pressure", seems to have been the least of
    their problems!

    Again, I want to know why they want people to believe she was in a water tank
    that people were drinking from? The smell coming from their faucets would have
    been unbearable. No one would stick their toothbrush into this or step into a shower with this water coming out of the taps. Period.
    Last edited by houndstooth; 02-28-2013 at 02:38 AM.


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    a walk from 9th floor to 14th

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    The Water Tanks

    I don't think the perp was 'forced' to use the tank. Given the history and 'ambience' of the Cecil it would provide enough cover at least for a few weeks to get the trail cold on him. Doubt that it would be easier for him to dump in the ocean as that would entail getting the body out of the building. If this was a first offence there would be little tying the perp to the crime and the tanks have bought enough time to escape/cover tracks as intended.

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    Just found this video news release by AP on behalf of CCTV, the Chinese broadcaster. At the 2:05 mark, the LAPD Spokesman reveals the number of hours of video tapes they reviewed and the reason for the release of the elevator video.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRQqdAQ9Ptc&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]USA Elisa Lam Photos (CCTV News Content) - YouTube[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRoger View Post
    I don't think the perp was 'forced' to use the tank. Given the history and 'ambience' of the Cecil it would provide enough cover at least for a few weeks to get the trail cold on him. Doubt that it would be easier for him to dump in the ocean as that would entail getting the body out of the building. If this was a first offence there would be little tying the perp to the crime and the tanks have bought enough time to escape/cover tracks as intended.
    Right and the tanks are just a short distance from the 14th floor, less time to manuever to hide EL and much much less risk getting caught

    Maybe now the Cecil will install security cams on the roof

    Years ago there was a woman who killed in a hotel and placed in one of the housekeeping utility/supply rooms, it was a weekend, high vacancy rate, most hotels slow down on weekends

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