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    The question phase continues: Arias on the stand for the 18th day #83

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    The question phase continues: Arias on the stand for the 18th day #83

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    Last edited by fran; 03-13-2013 at 12:08 PM.

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    (Hope it's OK to copy this from the closing thread. Spent a long time writing it and didn't want it to get lost in the shuffle.)

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    Have taken a 4 day break from all things JA. Almost. Can't seem to stop thoughts about the trial popping up when I least expect them to.

    I'm sure this is no revelation and has been discussed many times in many ways. Lat night, though, my mind shifted the kalidescope of testimony/evidence ever so slightly, and the pieces fell into a point of view I think it's possible JA held.

    JA's past relationships demonstrate that she never acknowledged much less respected other's boundaries or privacy. JA has a 100% track record of being controlling, possessive, and utterly self-absorbed. As well,she has proven incapable of fashioning any life of her own for herself. She is like a formless ball of clay, requiring a mold-- a man- to wrap herself around in order to have any identity at all.

    Given all that is true- and IMO, it is, then what was so different about her relationship with Travis Alexander that led to his murder?

    IMO the Fatal Attraction--"if I can't have him nobody can"-- interpretation is way too simplistic and misses the mark. JA never loved Travis- she is incapable of genuine attachment of any kind. She had/has no friends of her own, male or female. Subtract Travis's friends and his church/ business circles she relentlessly inserted herself into and what is left is her small handful of ex-boyfriends. Travis as possession, perhaps, but love? Nah.

    Come mid to late May 2008, she still wanted TA, whatever that meant to her. Travis was clearly trying to distance himself. Her endless manipulations and "drama," the tools she had always used, successfully, to keep her talons in him were failing her. Travis was going to move on, and without her. IMO Cancun with Mimi made her extremely angry, yes, but that was only half the story.

    JA knew that Travis kept the end months of their "relationship" secret, and she knew that he did so because his friends didn't like her/were creeped out by her. The benefit to JA of that secrecy, though, was that Travis was telling only a very few of his closest friends about JA's increasing hostility and bizarre behavior.

    If only a few of T's Arizona buddies knew who and what she really was, she could in theory move on herself and latch onto another innocent Mormon guy, her preferred class of victim.

    But Travis wasn't just calling it quits with her. He called her a sociopath and a whore. He told her his friends would spit in her face if they knew the truth about her, and he threatened to expose the truth about her- both her sexual and crazy behavior- to her family and to his friends.

    I think the threat of having her normality mask removed by Travis absolutely panicked JA. HE would be able to move on and get married, but SHE would a pariah, denied her victim pool of Mormons and PPL folk. Poof would go the easy access to the life TA showed her that she immediately saw as her right and due-- the traveling, the nice house and car, the income she'd never earn as a part time waitress at Denny's.

    I think she killed him to silence him. I think she snuck into his house and tried to plant incriminating "evidence" on his computer while he still slept. I think she had sex with him to demonstrate that she still held power over him, and I think that she screamed about HER destroying HIM as she stabbed him and slit his throat.

    I think that this trial, from JA's warped sociopathic view, is providing her with the satisfaction of doing to HIM what he threatened to do to HER. He would tell the world about HER whoredom? She trumps him by lying about affairs with married women, spins woe is me tales of tootsie pops and raunchy fantasies (taped for the express purpose of exposing him), and from the darkest recesses of her sick mind, accuses him of pedophilia. Take THAT, Travis.

    HE would tell the world about HER viciousness and psycho behavior? She trumps him again by manufacturing her accusations of physical abuse. Take THAT, Travis.

    Every accusation she makes outright and slips in under her breath or under the radar is a gigantic FU to Travis. She's gleeful and triumphant and cocky because she is getting the opportunity of a lifetime to obliterate Travis the way she felt he was poised to do to her.

    Personally I'm glad in one way that she's so wrapped up in her pursuit for revenge that she's single-handedly destroying any possibility the jury will want to spare her life. Poetic justice at its finest.
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    Good day all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulessa View Post
    Good day all!
    Beautiful boy...love the dimples.

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    A super-sized serving of 'JM on fire' today please and thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leebee52 View Post
    Beautiful boy...love the dimples.
    Thank you! He's my pride and joy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rose222 View Post
    A super-sized serving of 'JM on fire' today please and thank you.
    make that TWO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leebee52 View Post
    Beautiful boy...love the dimples.
    Yeah, cute kid.

    Any chance that his parents are fans of the Nelson twins, and specifically, Gunnar Nelson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulessa View Post
    Thank you! He's my pride and joy!
    OH MY GOSH!! Sweetness personified!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by JayB12 View Post
    Yeah, cute kid.

    Any chance that his parents are fans of the Nelson twins, and specifically, Gunnar Nelson?
    That's where they got his name. I was always a big Ricky fan myself.
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    Good morning everyone.
    Yesterday HLN played Jodi saying "because she never killed anyone before". The way she says this haunts me. Maybe she never killed a human, but what about an animal or animals?

    I heard Jodi went after her brother with a baseball bat. If Jodi has a vicious or evil background as a juvenile, or a police record as a juvenile, it will all be sealed by law. I wish her childhood friends would speak up.
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    BRB. Need to do a few more chores around the house before court begins. I don't want to miss a moment of JM questioning JA.
    IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracey4AU View Post
    OH MY GOSH!! Sweetness personified!!
    That should be the look on all children's faces. We are what makes them happy!
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    My grandson started out as a real cutie and at now 6, has morphed into a hulk who is bigger than I am. Still cute, not fat or anything,just humongous.

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