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    Mother: Son Suspended Because She Wouldn't Spank Him

    SCHAUMBURG, Ill. -- A 6-year-old boy has been suspended from a Christian school in Illinois after his mother refused to spank him.................................
    She said she knew he was a disciplinary problem, but she never anticipated what occurred on Wednesday.

    Fallaw-Gabrielson said when she arrived at Schaumburg Christian School to pick the boy up, an assistant administrator ordered her to spank him. When she refused, the official said her son was suspended

    http://www.channelcincinnati.com/edu...62/detail.html
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    I'm a big believer in corporal punishment at home and at school. BUT not for those dinky stupid offenses that the school listed.

    "One of the problems, his mother said, was that the school did not deal creatively with a rowdy but polite 6-year-old who tests at the 3rd-grade level and may have been restless and bored.

    Between September and March, Chandler got 20 "Tally Reports" outlining his misbehavior at school.

    Many were for talking too much in class. "Chandler had a bad day today. He talked all day," one said. Another said: "Chandler has been showing off all day."

    Another reported that Chandler brought gum to school, which isn't allowed. "He offered gum to me," the teacher wrote. When she declined, he began chewing it himself."

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    Good thing she got him out of there before they called the cops on him.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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    Waiting for the lawsuit...........

    Im not taking sides on this one *BUT* I will bet you a million dollars the Mother,when she registered him at this Christian school,signed a paper regarding punishment and that spanking was an option.Most Christian schools have all of that outlined in their policy and the parent must sign off on it.

    IMO she cant agree to something then not only back out but then have the chutzpah to cry about it.

    She knew what she signed up for and if she was unhappy about her sons behavior and/or treatment in school why did she wait so long to complain???
    The saints are the sinners who keep trying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by messiecake
    Im not taking sides on this one *BUT* I will bet you a million dollars the Mother,when she registered him at this Christian school,signed a paper regarding punishment and that spanking was an option.Most Christian schools have all of that outlined in their policy and the parent must sign off on it.

    IMO she cant agree to something then not only back out but then have the chutzpah to cry about it.

    She knew what she signed up for and if she was unhappy about her sons behavior and/or treatment in school why did she wait so long to complain???
    My son attended Christian schools through grades 1-12, and there were no papers to sign regarding spanking/corporal punishment. It seems, apparently, that there wasn't anything signed at this school either. If there was, the school would have spanked the student instead of trying to force the mother to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jannuncutt
    My son attended Christian schools through grades 1-12, and there were no papers to sign regarding spanking/corporal punishment. It seems, apparently, that there wasn't anything signed at this school either. If there was, the school would have spanked the student instead of trying to force the mother to do so.
    My children attended a PUBLIC school that had corporal punishment. Paperwork needed to be signed by me each year.

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    It sounds to me (based on limited information) like he had a long series of mild but real behavior problems that the mom simply refused to deal with. I can understand why the school had to call her in and essentially say, "Deal with your child here and now, since he's not being dealt with effectively at home over these issues." Schools are left in a bind when they try to manage ongoing behavior problems with children who have no accountability at home. I taught in public school for 5 years and had my hands tied with that kind of situation and family. Repeat behavior problems occurred because there was no fear of consequences at home for misbehavior at school. And in public schools in California there is no corporal punishment, and political correctness reigns supreme. Suspension was often our only option, and it really didn't help a bit once they came back to school. Their parents were too busy justifying and affirming their child's actions, and indoctinating their child to the "fact" that everybody else was wrong.

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    deb, I agree with you.I think the mother was not effetively dealing with this child at home. I believe that this is the reason she was asked to spank this child at school. I think that this is the kind of mother that will take up her childs side no matter what the offense.I have seen so many parents that reinforce this type of behavior.

    My children ages 10 and 14 have always been in private school. The first school they attened did have a spanking policy. If a child needed to be spanked a parent was permitted to come in and do this or, it would be given by the administrator in the presence of another staff member. In the five years our children were at that particular school I very rarely heard of a child recieving a spanking. Our current school does not have a spanking policy.

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    I raised 5 kids and never spanked any of them. Had anyone ever ordered me to spank my child i would have told them to kiss my a$$. There are more affective dicipline methods then spanking.
    Welcome to the World Baby Caleb!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tybee204
    I raised 5 kids and never spanked any of them. Had anyone ever ordered me to spank my child i would have told them to kiss my a$$. There are more affective dicipline methods then spanking.
    I totally agree. If anyone ever laid a hand on my kid, their hands would be broken.
    The only problem here is that she was required to sign something prior to enrolling him that would allow for this option. She probably didn't think it would apply to her kid.


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    LOL even if I had signed something while enrolling I would tell them to absolutely not. I am not an advocate of punishing children with humiliation and degredation.
    Welcome to the World Baby Caleb!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tybee204
    LOL even if I had signed something while enrolling I would tell them to absolutely not. I am not an advocate of punishing children with humiliation and degredation.
    The form I had to sign each year gave the parent the option to *opt* out of corporal punishment.

    The way they did it was it was the absolute LAST resort. It was only implemented when all other options failed. It wasn't something that was ever done lightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfmom
    The form I had to sign each year gave the parent the option to *opt* out of corporal punishment.

    The way they did it was it was the absolute LAST resort. It was only implemented when all other options failed. It wasn't something that was ever done lightly.
    I'M SORRY BUT IT'S NOT AN OPTION EVER!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by csds703
    I'M SORRY BUT IT'S NOT AN OPTION EVER!!!
    Why not?

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    I am firmly against spanking children. I sure as heck would not let anyone else hit them. I think that hitting a child sends them the message that it is okay to hit if you are angry and makes them more likely to act out.

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