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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #44

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    ARREST!!! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#26

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper View Post
    he was checking up on her insurance policies before she went 'missing'..

    calculating that windfall.....he did a spreadsheet that laid out his idiotic debt to the tune of over a million. before she went 'missing'..

    he had approached people for tremendous sums, cryin and desperate before she went 'missing'...

    he had no chance of a loan from any bank or institution.

    All his loans, agreements, were due come July 1st.

    He didnt have an asset to his name, or hers, in his control that could be cashed in and applied to these loans.. before she went 'missing'..

    he couldnt, or didnt even pay the interest due on the loans he already had, before she went 'missing'..

    he knew, to within a few thou how much he was in the red.... ...

    he knew, to almost the exact dollar, what chance he had of knocking off those due payments.

    he even .. and this bit did surprise me, actually, tell Toni how much fiscal slime he was in.. ' he couldnt look me in the eye' .. says Toni.

    So he knew this before Allison went 'missing'.....

    Yes, he knew the extend of his debts, but Allison did call the insurance company also. I'm not saying I don't believe he killed her, I just don't believe he planned it ... IMO it happened as an argument that escalated out of control and unfortunately he did not know when to stop. IMO.
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    MS ANNIE ... Punches, scratches, etc. could have happened during a struggle ending with a punch from him? But, chances are that we will never know how it really happened.
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    Web based SMS. Telstra used to offer it 5 or 10 freebies. The only record of it was in your browser history that you visited that page, not that you sent an SMS. It didn't appear on bills. Or a public phone, any in the vicinity? Walkie talkies, CB radio. Half thoughts here as to how he could have called parents etc.

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    no body on earth wanted Allisons body found more than Gerard BadenClay... everyone else on earth wanted a live Allison to stroll out of the scrub.

    That was Gerards million dollar payout lying out there, and it must have driven him nuts that the Search and Rescue didnt find it, every minute was crucial.. it was imperative that the body be found and a death certificate issued. .. before July 1st.

    Having to wait 7 years for a coroner to declare a missing person most probably dead was of no use to Gerard.. no use at all.

    Was it planned for that night?? I doubt it. Then again... in the light of what we do indeed know of Gerards capacity for 'planning' and 'outcome recognition'. its not outside the realms of possibility.. he certainly had a bit of a cackhanded story ready quite early....going over Gerards business operations, his partners take on things, and even thru Toni's nuttiness we do get a glimpse of his idea of 'planning' stuff..

    So its not unreasonable to conclude that was the plan. That is, Gerard wasnt what could be termed an astute planner. .. quite the contrary.

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