I found this about the jurors, it was on HLN. thought I would post it here. Maybe someone can put the names given here by their number to see how they compare to HLN's observations.
Per HLN/IS producers observations...
Juror No. 1
She is a white female in her 60s and sits closest to the witness stand. She doesn't look at Arias often during her testimony. People in the gallery observed her yawning once during an emotional part of Arias' testimony.
Juror No. 2
He is a white male in his 50s. He takes few notes and usually has his head cupped in his hands as he listens to testimony.
Juror No. 3
She is a white female in her 40s. She takes a lot of notes and often watches prosecutor Juan Martinez as he moves around the courtroom. She has been seen submitting questions.
Juror No. 4
He is a white male in his 60s, and he takes few notes.
Juror No. 5
She is a married, white female in her 30s. She sits on the edge of her seat and is the most visible juror from the gallery because she has a “unique hair style.”
Juror No. 6
She is a white female in her 60s and is also seen taking many notes.
Juror No. 7
He is a white male in his 30s, and he is married. He takes notes and often bites his nails.
Juror No. 8
He is a white male in his 50s and is married. He also takes notes and has been observed submitting questions.
Juror No. 9
He is a white male in his 60s. He wears denim on most days and sits at the end of the jury box. He sits close to the first row of the gallery where Alexander's family sits.
Juror No. 10
He is a white male in his 70s and is married. He has a tattoo on his right arm. He rarely is seen taking notes. He sits the furthest away from the witness.
Juror No. 11
She is a married, white female in her 30s. She takes a lot of notes. She does not look at Arias during testimony. She tends to look straight ahead or down at her notes.
Juror No. 12
She is a white female in her 40s and also takes lots of notes. She swiveled her chair toward Arias during her testimony.
Juror No. 13
He is a white male in his late 60s to early 70s. He wears an audio-enhancing headset provided by the court. He does takes notes.
Juror No. 14
He is a white male in his early 60s who often swivels in his chair. He does not appear to be taking notes.
Juror No. 15
He is a white male in his late 20s or early 30s. He appears to be the youngest member of the jury and takes very few notes. He smiled when Martinez asked Arias if she could predict the future.
Juror No. 16
He is a white male in his 40s.
Juror No. 17
He is a Hispanic male in his late 20s to early 30s. He dresses casually and sometimes slouches so far down in his chair that he is hardly visible to the gallery. He does not appear to be taking notes.
Juror No. 18
She is a white female in her 40s. She is an occasional note taker and she often looks at the gallery during sidebars.
Some of us are new to all of this and may be missing...
If the jurors are questioned about the photo/autograph, then are they not in the same exact position that the defense didn't want for them to be in? Which is to now have knowledge of it?
What was the point?
Please set the alarm clock to go off when this trial is over.
I have a headache.
I don't know. That would probably make them wonder what happened Lol. I doubt they were flat out asked if they saw JM take pics and sign an autograph though.
JUSTICE FOR TRAVIS!!!
I'm having PTSD from JA abusing her Mom and a dog. For real.
A couple of things:
1.) I also noticed the filthiness of those feet on Jodi Arias during the headstand. Based on this, along with the appearance of certain other parts of her body, I'm surprised she didn't give poor Travis a disease before she killed him.
2.) I am not nearly as impressed with this witness as many others (talking heads) seem to be. She may be a real nice lady, but to me there is something "off" about her professionalism. She apparently has the education, yet her speech patterns, for one thing, are decidedly - well, I'll just say "unsophisticated". That is off putting to me.
In addition, I feel her testimony is way too laden with anecdotes. "I once treated a man who...." I'm to the point where I am silently saying to myself "So what? What does this have to do with THIS trial?" And yet when there was talk of a study, she was weak in her testimony. Said it had been years since she had looked at that study.
Can't wait to see what Juan does with her.
3.) I don't think Juan Martinez gives a "chit" about any kerfluffle about a photograph. As someone else said, it is not his first rodeo. If it was inappropriate he would not have done it. Simple as that.
Perhaps I'm just burned out with the days upon days of these two defense "experts". And I would bet the jury members are too. The "defense" needs to just get on with it. They are really milking it at this point. For the money? Who knows? Maybe it will make Nurmi's book a better seller.
And for whoever asked: Yes, the jury members can write a book after the trial is over. Several jury members from the Scott Peterson trial got together and wrote a really good book called "We the Jury".
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The only time I've witnessed a similar kerfuffle was during the DeeDee Moore trial in which she was convicted of the murder of Abraham Shakespeare in Tampa, FL.
The Tampa Bay Times was doing their first live feed with a chat room underneath. They were extremely responsive to reader demands and said they wanted to stream other trials.
Well, one day, there were problems switching the feed to a new format. During that time, one of the techs accidentally pushed a button that fed his image/conversations live. Most of the talk was technical, but a couple of things came in about the trial.
Don't ask me details, but the next morning the defense lawyer made an accusation about that feed. A lawyer friend of his had called him and told him x,y,z had been broadcast live. He was as furious and indignant as Nurmi was yesterday.
Those involved were called in to testify, as was Jean Casarez. It turned out the friend of the lawyer was wrong as to the nature of what came over the stream and the whole incident came to nothing more than a warning not to let it happen again.
I'd appreciate more details in anyone else there saw this. For what it's worth, there were hundreds of viewers who could have testified to what they observed/heard! I only got to testify loudly to my computer screen!
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Just confirmed in an article by Michael Kiefer which I won't link because his inaccurate and embellished reporting on this case is officially disgusting me, that only present in the jury questioning on the photogate issue were the judge and attorneys. No Jodi.
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What a waste of time this latest stunt has been. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with what JM did. He's outside of court and is being polite to his supporters.
If the DT is worried about what a juror may possibly see or hear, then why are the jurors permitted to sit on the benches or hang out anywhere around the court building to begin with? Do they really believe they can stop jurors from hearing comments from the average people hanging out?
If the DT wants the jury to not see or hear anything on breaks or after court, then they should suggest that jurors be escorted from the property and make some rules that the jurors cannot hang out around the building.
Gee whiz - just nonsense. Shows desperation in my opinion.
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Mark Eiglarsh is one of the few defense attorneys that I enjoy hearing from. Most defense attorneys get on TV and abandon common sense to make a case for a defendant just because they are defense attorneys. They can't even say what comes out of their mouths with a straight face half the time. Unlike them, Mark has a good sense of humor and common sense.
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I love popping in here to read the insiders observations at the end of the week! It really helps keep this case in perspective. I wanted to point out a few things I observed concerning the "expert witness". First if all initially I was a bit impressed with her CV, that was until I did some digging and listened closely. As a survivor of DV myself she began to loose credibility based on:
1. Her CV states she is a Psychotherapist yet she WAS registered only as a PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSISTANT which was canceled back in 1992. In fact the Dr she worked under back then Dr Charles Stockton had his license revoked back in 1998 for inappropriate sexual behavior with a patient. Alyce is only licensed as far as I can see as a MFC Marriage, Family and Child since 1992 and a Continuing Education Provider since 1997.
2. Her use of improper terms the first days such as "Bottom Lines" instead of Boundaries, "Hostage Syndrome" instead of Stockholm and the non existent "Chronic Combat Syndrome"
3. Much of her information comes from outdated information with her referring back to the 1980's
4. Her amazing ability to have memorized more about JA's own life history and story then JA evens knows herself.
5. The fact that she is "paid" and making over $12,000 for her testimony and time spent with JA
6. Any good DV advocate or person working within that field KNOWS they can not make assumptions as to the abuser without having substantiated evidence. Just because an abused person says it is so does not mean it is so. Even the Women's shelter I eventually fled to back in the 90's had to question MY motives for fleeing with my children and make sure I was not trying to flee with them for custody reasons or there was some other motive involved.
7. Lastly, to state that a child's possibly "neglectful" environment is "abusive" is a very dangerous statement. Just because a child comes from a neglectful home, does not mean that child will be abusive even if that home was abusive. It actually is the opposite in the majority of cases, it sets that child up to be abused as an adult is all. My abusive childhood did not make me abusive, it made me an easy target for abuse.
Sorry so long, but I am disgusted that this women attempts to speak for me or the others I know who are survivors! Men are OFTEN abused but for them to report it makes them appear weak as a man is all.
Keep up the inside work! Love what I read by everyone posting!!!!! I hope this trial ends soon for Travis's family
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