a view from the inside: observations from our own court observers #5

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juror list (copy and paste from KBisme

Ok, so I'll start on my notes. First, I couldn't see Jodi from where I was sitting because an interns head was blocking my view of her. I did have a great view of the jury though, so almost all of my notes are about them. I'll first start with adding my take on each of them to Anita's awesome list. I made a list of my own because I wasn't as smart as PASA (she printed Anita's list and had it with her). My comments are in purple.

Jurors

1.Church Lady- Mid 50's, short hair, no make-up, glasses.
This lady looks absolutely disgusted the whole time. I never once saw her look in the direction of JA. Not ONCE. She either stares straight forward or looks at JM.

2.Trump-Guy in 40's, lots of hair, car salesman look.
I called this guy "Comb Over" he had his head resting on his hand almost the whole time. He also never looks at JA. He seemed to be paying attention, but also seemed bored.


3.Housewife-She is a big lady (tall and heavy set, not obese) with a very sweet face, no make-up.
Interesting different view today. I called her the "Angry Neighbor Lady" Lol. I wrote that she follows along, but has a constant "sour puss". I don't know if it's just "her look" or what, but she seemed to be frowning every time I looked at her.


4.Grandpa-Bald, sweet faced older man that looks like my grandpa.
I also named this man Grandpa. He does have a sweet face and seems the "calm" type.


5.Tricolor-Early 30's, short, stylish haircut with three colors, reminds me of one of my hairstylists.
This is the only one I remembered Anita's name for because her hair stood out, Lol. She reminded me of my best friend. She probably gave more facial expressions than any of the others. She is very engaged and took a fair amount of notes.


6.Nancy-Lady in her 50's, lovely face, reminds me of Nancy Reagan with glasses, short sassy haircut.
I called her Spikey Hair. Anita's description is better. She was the only one I saw look at Jodi when the jury first walked in. She took a lot of notes.


7.Paul Rudd-Younger guy, mid-late 20's with spiky hair, sweat jacket, looks like the actor Paul Rudd.
He does look like Paul Rudd, but with shorter hair. He's a good looking young man.


8.The CEO-Good looking man, mid 50's with goatee. Can see him being the jury foreman.
I called this guy "The Dad". He looks nothing like my dad, Lol, but for whatever reason... I got a fatherly feel from him.


9.Willy-Old hippy with long white ponytail, thin, small build.
This guy looked PIZZED the whole time. He seemed to be staring towards the media lady or just into the corner. I only saw him look at JM or JA maybe once.


10.Barb-Female, 40's, has the "sexy librarian" look, wearing a form fitting sweater, slender build and voluptuous. If ANYONE on the jury is offended by disparaging comments regarding breast augmentation, my guess is it would be her. She is the only juror I couldn't see very clearly; just when she entered and exited the courtroom and when I stretched up out of my seat to gawk at her.
I called this lady "Plain Jane" She was very hard to see from where I was, but I could tell she was taking notes quite a bit.


11.Poquito-Little Mexican guy (maybe 5'3) with long graduated pony tail, lots of facial hair and piercings.
I called him "Paco" He was hard to see too, but mostly because he was slouched down in his seat I thought he'd fall off Lol. At one point he was bent over instead of slouching, but still very hard to see.


12.Neil-Early 50's high forehead, glasses, looks very nervous and turns red easily. This is the guy that makes KCL nervous.
I called this guy "Jim" I wrote "very hard to read".


13.The Wrestler-Younger good looking guy, large build.
I called this guy "The Jock" He reminded me a little of Oz on American Pie (Chris Klein).


14.Old potsmoking CPA (I have no idea why I wrote this, i have ZERO recollection of this juror. He did not make any impression on me, other than when I was going down the rows naming them.)
I called this guy Sleepy. He swiveled in his chair a lot and fell asleep at least twice. He was also slouched down in his chair.


15.Elderly Man-This man is definitely the oldest juror, he occasionally uses the headphones to listen to the proceedings that Jodie's Auntie uses.
I called him "Captain" He has a very intense gaze. It's hard to describe but he gives off a stubborn and no bs vibe. Maybe ex military or something?


16.Maureen-Red haired, glasses (the red might be too red to be a natural ginger) If I had to guess one Mormon on the jury, it would be her.
I called her The Secretary. She took a lot of notes and had a "polished" look to her. She had her whole body turned facing Jodi. I barely saw her look at JM. She was the only one that really made me feel nervous at all.


17.Pony Tail-Young girl, pony tail, plain, pony tail and sweats.
I called her frumpy lady. Not in a rude way... it's just the word that came to mind. Very plain. She took a lot of notes.


18.The Artist-Bald, attractive, glasses, 50's-60's, large build, holds his notebook on a binder as if he's going to sketch. He looks around the gallery a lot. I thought we met eyes a couple of times, but who knows, that room is so huge!
This guy also had a very intense gaze. He took some notes. He rubbed his face and tapped his fingers to his lips a lot. He wasn't the only one doing stuff like that, but I'll get into that in my notes.

Ignore the names I threw in there. We should stick with Anita's. I just thought it would be interesting to give different peoples views on them. More to come!






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Im there this afternoon. Heard from Beth K who is back with a new look!
 
Thinking ahead to Justice for Travis Day, hopefully at least some of the jurors will talk to the media. To me, that is a highlight of every trial, learning what the jury saw as key points..... Can we set up WS press passes for KCL, Pasa & AZL? They are dedicated trial "correspondents"!
 
Thinking ahead to Justice for Travis Day, hopefully at least some of the jurors will talk to the media. To me, that is a highlight of every trial, learning what the jury saw as key points..... Can we set up WS press passes for KCL, Pasa & AZL? They are dedicated trial "correspondents"!


LOL now that would be something wouldn't it? Maybe when they are ungagged we can coerce them to meet us on the rooftop. ;)
 
LOL now that would be something wouldn't it? Maybe when they are ungagged we can coerce them to meet us on the rooftop. ;)

Now there's an idea. They could use a drink (soft or non) after being in the jury box for months.


Something to think about: Which juror(s) will be most likely to talk after, and who will not.

I'm gonna put my lil thinking cap on, have some more caffeine and make a list. :)
 
Now there's an idea. They could use a drink (soft or non) after being in the jury box for months.


Something to think about: Which juror(s) will be most likely to talk after, and who will not.

I'm gonna put my lil thinking cap on, have some more caffeine and make a list. :)

PASA, are you sitting in the cue line? Are all seats filled? Wish I were there. Just got back into town last nite and need to go to work. May try for afternoon session on Wednesday.
 
Now there's an idea. They could use a drink (soft or non) after being in the jury box for months.


Something to think about: Which juror(s) will be most likely to talk after, and who will not.

I'm gonna put my lil thinking cap on, have some more caffeine and make a list. :)

Wow..I think Poquito Mas will talk believe it or not. And the Wrestler. And Neil. Maybe Tri color (unless she's gonna write a book lol).

I seriously doubt we will hear from Willie. ;)
 
I hope Katiecoolady or another WS trial watcher can get to the bottom of what exactly was passed from Jodi Arias to her mother. Sounds like there is disagreement on whether it was a birthday card or not. Second, regardless of what was passed - I'd like to know if the very act of passing anything by a defendant to anyone (apart from their counsel) is allowed? Obviously the court would need to ascertain exactly what happened to rule out the potential for juror/witness tampering, etc.
 
PASA, are you sitting in the cue line? Are all seats filled? Wish I were there. Just got back into town last nite and need to go to work. May try for afternoon session on Wednesday.

I'm not going to attend today, JBS. I hope you had a good out of town trip, wlecome back!

LMK if you decide to head down on Wednesday.
 
I hope Katiecoolady or another WS trial watcher can get to the bottom of what exactly was passed from Jodi Arias to her mother. Sounds like there is disagreement on whether it was a birthday card or not. Second, regardless of what was passed - I'd like to know if the very act of passing anything by a defendant to anyone (apart from their counsel) is allowed? Obviously the court would need to ascertain exactly what happened to rule out the potential for juror/witness tampering, etc.

I just saw the video of the "passing". Two things. Maria looks very sneaky doing it and she looks up to see if she's being seen passing it.

It's not a card but a piece of paper, not in an envelope. If it was an innocent BD card why the need for the sneakiness Maria? After this defendant is known for sneaking out message via magazines it's way out of bounds that this Mit Specialist would be aiding and abetting her passing anything out of custody.
 
I just saw the video of the "passing". Two things. Maria looks very sneaky doing it and she looks up to see if she's being seen passing it.

It's not a card but a piece of paper, not in an envelope. If it was an innocent BD card why the need for the sneakiness Maria? After this defendant is known for sneaking out message via magazines it's way out of bounds that this Mit Specialist would be aiding and abetting her passing anything out of custody.

It astounds me that Maria is a MS. What's the bet Jodi will be able to file an appeal just on Maria's behaviour alone :D?
 
I just saw the video of the "passing". Two things. Maria looks very sneaky doing it and she looks up to see if she's being seen passing it.

It's not a card but a piece of paper, not in an envelope. If it was an innocent BD card why the need for the sneakiness Maria? After this defendant is known for sneaking out message via magazines it's way out of bounds that this Mit Specialist would be aiding and abetting her passing anything out of custody.

Excellent points Katie. Hope you can get to the bottom of this. Thanks!!!!
 
It astounds me that Maria is a MS. What's the bet Jodi will be able to file an appeal just on Maria's behaviour alone :D?

Oh believe me, everything will be appealed. "Incompetent Mitigation Specialness". lol

I'm thinking of filing a formal complaint about her with the powers that be over this. MY taxpayer dollars are paying her salary. And I'm not happy about this, not at all.
 
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