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    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeJunkie View Post
    Tell me what makes you think she didn't go over her testimony with the DT? I'm curious.
    I think she did. She presented them with a report, no doubt. I don't think she signed on to be part of the guilt phase. That plan was hatched as a backdoor run to get in evidence that was previously disallowed and has been sealed. I think she looks unhappy about being used this way, but hey, she'll probably make enough money from this case to retire.

    Meanwhile, I think JV will use her expertise as a way to expose Jodi's stalking behavior and possibly even the effect stalkers have on their victims. If I understand what I've been reading, JM will also be able to use her testimony on cross as a means to show Jodi's accusation of pedophilia with the falling picture is a lie because she told ALV the pictures were on the computer.

    Then there is the matter of the letters and out-and-out betrayal of the Hughes by the DT. ALV was a mitigation witness until that evidentiary hearing, then presto the DT thought they had a "cunning plan." But they keep goofing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manzana View Post
    Now can you add Pee Wee Herman's catch phrase to it?
    I know you are, but what am I? It's been so long I had to google that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZWatcher View Post
    I'm interested ... and equally PISSED at why this email string wasn't brought out by the prosecution. WHY OH WHY didn't the state feel the need to quantify, qualify, ratify or otherwise explain this? These were TA's closest friends. At some point, they turned on Jodi. WHY WHY WHY!
    and do you think the jury might be interested as well over the long weekend, I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EquallyDivided View Post
    I know you are, but what am I? It's been so long I had to google that!
    and also the HA HA preceding the Hee Hee, sounds a lot like Juan

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    Quote Originally Posted by pferrin View Post
    Is this still a victim friendly site?
    Yes. sweetheart. I just feel like the state left a big ball of dingleberies hanging for the long weekend. I want to HEAR ALL ABOUT why the Hughes went from feeling as though they needed to protect Jodi to feeling like they needed to protect Travis? This should have been a preemptive strike by the state. IMO.

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    I've been absent most of the evening so I have no idea what you guys are discussing. I just had to share...I joined the "forbidden site" (crazy psycho is innocent) out of curiosity and tried to post a comment....I was banned within minutes hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    Agree. Two random attackers allow her to escape, yet during "self-defense" she had to stab Travis 29 times, slit his throat and shoot him? Hopefully the jury will be able to differentiate an actual self-defense scenario from what she related.

    I was also curious about JA's family wearing ribbons in court when, IIRC, there was an issue with Travis' family wearing the blue ones?



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    Panthera it makes me angry how they are so blatantly throwing those ribbons in TA's family's faces. After his family and supporters were "instructed" by the court not to wear their ribbons in support of their lost loved one I find it dusgusting. It's completely tasteless on her family's part, but not surprisingly so....to me. I know some have compassion for what her family is going through, and I appreciate that, but the whole ribbon thing is not endearing them to anyone, and how is that helping JA's case? I just don't understand their thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popsicle View Post
    It was actually in 2010 and there was a muzzle imprint.
    You are correct. I re-read the autopsy report and they did state muzzle imprint and soot. I didn't see "stippling" and so read right past that!

    Still, downward angle? Husband she called in a tip on for TA's murder? Maybe he didn't forgive her? Still seems like someone ought to have checked it out.

    Not that it would affect THIS case......

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    In thread #111 JustJudy said:
    Yep totally agree....never knew I coulda offed those guys who...wait...uh oh ...Guess I deserved slaughtering too, back in the day, if breaking a guy's heart, moving on, & saying hateful things deserves the death penalty :~{
    And people thought those 4 little words ("we need to talk") didn't bode well BEFORE this trial ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Panther View Post
    She initially came on as a "mitigation consultant/specialist" and was most probably privy to much more information that she would have been given had she originally had the role of "expert witness". "Experts" are expected to testify in keeping with their area of "expertise". She switched out of her role as ms/consultant after having seen all of the information available which might not have been presented/available to someone that was simply and expert witness. (I don't know if that made sense but I hope so...)

    I firmly believe that she's a staunch anti DP and that is what drives her and motivates the decisions she's made.

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    Maybe there's a way to look at the last 18 cases she's testified for, and see if there's a pattern. If that is the case, there are far better ways to show your distain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClosArgs View Post
    My momma asked us to cut a switch for her to use. I remember once being so mad I dragged a huge limb up to the door. She looked at it and started laughing. She said "Honey I just want to whip you, not kill you."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeJunkie View Post
    Not the 4th???? PLEASE don't tell me we're still going to be here!!
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    5/01/13
    jury will deliberate for 2 hours.
    Verdict: Guilty 1st degree

    DP will be handed down umm
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    I should write that down somewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pferrin View Post
    Is this still a victim friendly site?
    Of course.

    I am reading every post.

    There is no bashing going on. Only people expressing their opinions and perceptions.

    We ALL want justice for Travis and he was a good man. However, it is important to remember he wasn't a saint and I suspect he would be the first to tell us that if he could. He was an exceptional human being with faults and sins like all of us.

    Just keeping it real here. We all need to be tolerant of people expressing their perceptions. We aren't all going to see things exactly the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZWatcher View Post
    Yes. sweetheart. I just feel like the state left a big ball of dingleberies hanging for the long weekend. I want to HEAR ALL ABOUT why the Hughes went from feeling as though they needed to protect Jodi to feeling like they needed to protect Travis? This should have been a preemptive strike by the state. IMO.
    The state didn't do anything wrong, AZ law allowed her to interpret those emails. Someone else posted that AZ has since changed the law, but it doesn't apply to AVL and this case.

    Have faith, Juan will come in on rebuttal and show she is full of caca.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZWatcher View Post
    Yes. sweetheart. I just feel like the state left a big ball of dingleberies hanging for the long weekend. I want to HEAR ALL ABOUT why the Hughes went from feeling as though they needed to protect Jodi to feeling like they needed to protect Travis? This should have been a preemptive strike by the state. IMO.
    I just don't think there was an opportunity to pre-emptively do anything with this. I mean, when could the state bring this up prior to today? I do think that Juan will address it with ALV and not wait just for his rebuttal case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gngr~snap View Post
    Aww... you rock!

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    5/01/13
    jury will deliberate for 2 hours.
    Verdict: Guilty 1st degree

    DP will be handed down umm
    6/26/13

    I should write that down somewhere...
    2 hours? Wow, we'll be lucky if they choose a foreman within that time frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZWatcher View Post
    Yes. sweetheart. I just feel like the state left a big ball of dingleberies hanging for the long weekend. I want to HEAR ALL ABOUT why the Hughes went from feeling as though they needed to protect Jodi to feeling like they needed to protect Travis? This should have been a preemptive strike by the state. IMO.
    The state probably won't touch these two with a ten-foot-pole. I think JM knows they are BS and frankly doesn't need them sullying his case. JM appears to be a minimalist. Seems as though it's working for him, too.

    And dingleberries.

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    Too funny...How about these for JA's "abandonment issues":

    "3. Abandonment phase
    The abandonment phase begins when the psychopath decides that his or her victim is no longer useful. The psychopath abandons his or her victim and moves on to someone else. In the case of romantic relationships, a psychopath will usually seal a relationship with their next target before abandoning his or her current victim.
    Sometimes, the psychopath has three individuals on whom he or she is running game: the one who has been recently abandoned, who is being toyed with and kept in the picture in case the other two do not work out; the one who is currently being played and is about to be abandoned; and the third, who is being groomed by the psychopath, in anticipation of abandonning the current "mark".


    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_manipulation"]Psychological manipulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnareit View Post
    I think she did. She presented them with a report, no doubt. I don't think she signed on to be part of the guilt phase. That plan was hatched as a backdoor run to get in evidence that was previously disallowed and has been sealed. I think she looks unhappy about being used this way, but hey, she'll probably make enough money from this case to retire.

    Meanwhile, I think JV will use her expertise as a way to expose Jodi's stalking behavior and possibly even the effect stalkers have on their victims. If I understand what I've been reading, JM will also be able to use her testimony on cross as a means to show Jodi's accusation of pedophilia with the falling picture is a lie because she told ALV the pictures were on the computer.

    Then there is the matter of the letters and out-and-out betrayal of the Hughes by the DT. ALV was a mitigation witness until that evidentiary hearing, then presto the DT thought they had a "cunning plan." But they keep goofing up.
    Yes, she most surely DID sign on to be an expert witness in the guilt phase.
    She was not forced in any way - it was her free will choice - IMO, a horrible one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pferrin View Post
    Is this still a victim friendly site?
    Real victim friendly site, yes it is. It's the DT fog fabricated victims that don't fare so well here.

    Injustice for Caylee Marie Anthony.

    Copyright that Cindy

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    Quote Originally Posted by manzana View Post
    and do you think the jury might be interested as well over the long weekend, I do.
    YES! Seriously, I am so firmly in the givethatbyeotchtheneedle camp, but I headed to happy hour today with a sick feeling in my stomach. I don't wanna hear **** like this from the defense team, FIRST. I wanna be prepared for it and have some understanding of the context of this email string.

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    Jodi was the only person Travis had sex with. The other girlfriends were Mormon girls. He was trying to find someone he wants to marry. *Why I want to marry a gold digger*

    Quote Originally Posted by lil_buddy View Post
    I know he wasn't a saint, but my point was there's not proof he cheated on Jodi. Jodi herself says that they were not in a committed relationship while they continued to have sex.

    My fave passtime as of right now is talking s6!t behind Jodi's back so I can't disparage anyone for that

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    In my worthless opinion, the Hughes revealed that they had personal issues with completely supporting Travis while on the witness stand. IMO, they were likely concerned about their own images because of their "sales" jobs with PPL. I hope they will become more supportive.
    http://www.teamrenew.com/chris-sky-hughes

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    Instead of them "arguing" about it; just put it up on the screen and read it for goodness sakes. I mean, ALV is cornered.

    Quote Originally Posted by AZWatcher View Post
    YES! Seriously, I am so firmly in the givethatbyeotchtheneedle camp, but I headed to happy hour today with a sick feeling in my stomach. I don't wanna hear **** like this from the defense team, FIRST. I wanna be prepared for it and have some understanding of the context of this email string.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrayedKnot View Post
    And Ashley committed suicide a few months later. She shot herself in the head. At a downward angle. No stippling.

    I don't think Dustin was questioned in her death. Case closed.

    Nothing weird there.
    WHAT?

    ok that is a detail I missed.
    now I feel sadder er.....

    I'm not jumpin ya but I'd love a linky to that someday!

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    A couple of things I noticed.

    After re-watching Chris Hughes testimony regarding the email letter

    seen here: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4bTzT-c0DI"]Jodi Arias Murder Trial day 10. Part 3 - YouTube[/ame]

    and listening to ALV today with Wilma, it is quite sneaky how Nurmi snuck in the word "abusive" on the day that Chris Hughes was on the stand, and is very similar to the way that Wilma got ALV to sneak in the word "abusive" today.

    Also, both Chris Hughes, and ALV BOTH made the statements regarding the email that the first part of the email wasn't available to read, and that they were reading from an email which was in the middle of a conversation between Travis and Chris.

    What are JA group trying to hide?

    It bugs me how something that can be said in a normal conversation can be taken out of text, and given a meaning that isn't even close to what it was meant to mean.


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