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    Canada - RCMP Seeking Public's Help w/info re: 2 militants involved in terrorism

    Two Canadians from London, Ontario, Ali Medlej and Xristos Katsiroubas, have been formally identified by RCMP as militants involved in an attack on a natural gas plant in Algeria in January 2013. The blast killed 38 hostages and 27 militants, including Medlej and Katsiroubas.

    A third man, Aaron Yoon, a high-school friend also from London, travelled overseas with Medlej and Katsiroubas and is in jail in Mauritania.

    The RCMP national security information network is asking for the public's help in coming forth with any information related to the individuals involved:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle10784256/

    Anyone with information is urged to call the RCMP’s national security information network at 1-800-429-5805.
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    Mysterious 4th Canadian ? Benjamin Caleb Thomas:

    There's no proof Thomas' involvement with Medlej and Katsiroubas goes beyond their time in Edmonton, or that he might be the mysterious fourth Canadian man, who, according to one media report, travelled with the other Londoners.
    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews...03-134221.html
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    Article re Aaron Yoon:

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    http://globalnews.ca/news/453012/yoo...ttack-brother/

    Aaron hasn’t been in contact with Ali and Xris for at least a year,” said Yoon’s brother.
    “It’s because they were friends in London and met overseas, and he was the last people that Xris and Ali spoke with,” said Yoon’s brother. “He wasn’t in the attack. Thank God, he wasn’t in the attack.”
    <bbm>

    The above two statements by Yoon's brother seem at odds.

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    Some experts comment on the psychology of radicalization:


    Radicalization usually the result of 'non-religious factors'

    Experts say extremists typically motivated by emotion rather than politics
    full article at:
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...d.html?cmp=rss

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    Thanks @sillybilly for creating this forum. I couldn't figure out how to create one... Hopefully we can get some interesting sleuthing on this case....

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    Amnesty International is surprised that, out of 30 prisoners/detainees, Yoon is the only one who has refused their help.

    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews...05-115115.html

    Reading the various articles, I have to question if his family is covering for him, or if he actually has them duped about his incarceration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace View Post
    Thanks @sillybilly for creating this forum. I couldn't figure out how to create one... Hopefully we can get some interesting sleuthing on this case....
    Hi ace !! For some reason the thread has been slow to draw interest. I'm feeling somewhat like the "Lone Ranger" in here, but i'll just keep being obnoxious with post after post

    I think you might not be able to access some of the regular thread tools until you have a higher post count (typically about 50 posts before new WSrs have access to all features). What you can do to bump up your post count is go to the "Game Room" forum and do some quick posts in the various threads to get your post count up:

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
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    Some more info on the background of the Canadian militants:

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04...ors_picks=true

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    Haha SB! I really didn't expect to find a thread on this here, but it has certainly hit close to home (literally!).

    We live in London and our sons are of a similar age as the young men involved in this horrific event. It didn't take long for my sister to text me...."hey! I see in the news that young men from south London were involved in this terrorist event! Do my dear nephews know them??"

    To be honest, my sons were completely oblivious to this news. You would think it would be a hot topic amongst their age group....but apparently not.

    Having said that, in the video included in the very recent National Post article linked above, I saw that there was mention of a local watering hole where these guys hung out. Guess what? One of my sons lives within 100m of this plaza and he and his buddies hang out there too! My son practically fell over when I pointed it out to him today. He is definitely interested in the story now!

    London does have a reasonable size Muslim population, however the large local mosque is very involved in interfaith activities in a positive way and there has been no community tension related to this group. It appears that the local 'terrorists' involved in this recent act did not attend the local mosque as it was too 'mundane' for them.

    It still surprises me that these young men got caught up in this, as London isn't exactly a rough town to live in. People are pretty accepting and, although unemployment has risen recently with the loss of manufacturing jobs, there is a pretty stable economic base with low crime. To think that these young men were 'turned' even before the financial crisis is surprising to me. Yes, I have been called naive before!

    I have been checking out the Muslim Youth Association, with which these young men were involved. This association is aligned with Shia muslims and articles posted on their website seem to emmanate from Iran. I haven't determined yet whether Shia or Sunni dominate here in London (although I suspect it is Shia).

    I might even have to go off to the Dawghouse for a brew or two to do more local research. Of course I will make sure that my son won't be there with his friends! Could you imagine how embarrassed he would be??
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    Hi Snoop !! Glad you're here.

    Sadly it seems London isn't just the Storybook Gardens city that I recall from my childhood.

    Have a brewski for me while you're at the dawghouse checking out the local scuttlebutt !!

    sb :Banane35:


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    The Globe's detailed article....

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle10825822/

    In this article they quote an old London friend of theirs who had moved to Edmonton.

    Mr. Alsaadi never thought Mr. Katsiroubas was in any kind of serious trouble until the Canadian Security Intelligence Service approached him – tipped off, according to the CBC, by someone who knew them. “It was alarming,” Mr. Alsaadi said. “I actually told them, ‘What are you guys up to, what’s going on here?’ ”
    And, perhaps unfortunately, they talked about Katsibouras' upbringing and named family members. I imagine they are being hounded by the press right now, just when they are dealing with the death of their son.

    Mr. Alsaadi remembers feeling as though Mr. Katsiroubas’ mother and Mr. Hawn, his engineer stepfather, played favourites. With the two families under one roof, Xris was one of three boys, alongside his biological brother Andrew and a stepbrother, Eric. Mr. Katsiroubas often descended into the basement alone to play video games.
    The article goes on to say the Katsibouras and Yoon went to elementary school together. This seems to conflict with a more recent article in the London Free Press though, which says that Yoon went to school in Chatham (about an hour's drive west of London) from grade 1 to 8.

    Aaron Yoon, accused of having ties to the terrorist group al Qaida, attended St. Ursula Catholic School from Grade 1 to 8 from the mid 1990s to early 2000, before his family moved to London.
    http://www.lfpress.com/2013/04/07/te...elated-charges

    It does irk me that Yoon says that the Canadian government hasn't helped him since he's been incarcerated in Mauritania. He's the one that didn't even want his family to know that he was arrested and yet he wants help. My advice....don't be a terrorist! This isn't a game. You are old enough to know better. You aren't a teenager.
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    Therefore, send not to know, for whom the bell tolls;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopster View Post
    It does irk me that Yoon says that the Canadian government hasn't helped him since he's been incarcerated in Mauritania. He's the one that didn't even want his family to know that he was arrested and yet he wants help. My advice....don't be a terrorist! This isn't a game. You are old enough to know better. You aren't a teenager.
    <rsbm>

    Same guy who wouldn't meet with AI, but wants help from our government while in jail for terrorism. Okayyyyyy

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    4th Canadian sought following Algeria attack

    Ryan Enderi, shown in a Grade 11 photo, is under investigation for possible extremist connections. (Canadian Press). CBC News has confirmed the name of a fourth young Canadians sought for possible extremist connections, following a deadly attack at an ...
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...on-linked.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    4th Canadian sought following Algeria attack



    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...on-linked.html
    Not surprised to find you here SB.



    Turns out this latest guy went to my sons' high school for part of the time, although my son closest in age did not know him.

    I wonder why he switched schools. He started out at South for grade 9 and 10 and then moved to Saunders. According to media reports it isn't believed that he finished high school. Of course he might have switched school simply because his family moved, however the school he moved to would have had a much larger immigrant, and more specifically, muslim student population (of varying degrees of conservativeness).

    Krogman said the mother wears a burka and doesn’t talk much to the neighbours. He said he hasn’t seen the oldest son around the family home for a while, perhaps two years.

    “He was always respectful to me,” Krogman said, but was “kind of mouthy” at times to others and got into disputes with some of the other people on the street.

    There is no animosity toward the family in the neighbourhood, Krogman said.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle11167096/
    Any man's death diminishes me,
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    Therefore, send not to know, for whom the bell tolls;
    It tolls for thee.
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    Government and security sources in Ottawa said they’re concerned that Enderi remains at large. <RCMP Commissioner>Paulson said his investigation into the Canadian connection involves Mounties at home and around the world.

    He also warned Canadians to be aware of the dangers this case highlights.

    “It is a little frustrating because I don’t think people fully understand the phenomenon of home-grown radicalization,” he said.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle11167096/

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