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    juror list (copy and paste from KBisme

    Ok, so I'll start on my notes. First, I couldn't see Jodi from where I was sitting because an interns head was blocking my view of her. I did have a great view of the jury though, so almost all of my notes are about them. I'll first start with adding my take on each of them to Anita's awesome list. I made a list of my own because I wasn't as smart as PASA (she printed Anita's list and had it with her). My comments are in purple.

    Jurors

    1.Church Lady- Mid 50's, short hair, no make-up, glasses.
    This lady looks absolutely disgusted the whole time. I never once saw her look in the direction of JA. Not ONCE. She either stares straight forward or looks at JM.

    2.Trump-Guy in 40's, lots of hair, car salesman look.
    I called this guy "Comb Over" he had his head resting on his hand almost the whole time. He also never looks at JA. He seemed to be paying attention, but also seemed bored.


    3.Housewife-She is a big lady (tall and heavy set, not obese) with a very sweet face, no make-up.
    Interesting different view today. I called her the "Angry Neighbor Lady" Lol. I wrote that she follows along, but has a constant "sour puss". I don't know if it's just "her look" or what, but she seemed to be frowning every time I looked at her.


    4.Grandpa-Bald, sweet faced older man that looks like my grandpa.
    I also named this man Grandpa. He does have a sweet face and seems the "calm" type.


    5.excusedTricolor-Early 30's, short, stylish haircut with three colors, reminds me of one of my hairstylists.
    This is the only one I remembered Anita's name for because her hair stood out, Lol. She reminded me of my best friend. She probably gave more facial expressions than any of the others. She is very engaged and took a fair amount of notes.


    6.Nancy-Lady in her 50's, lovely face, reminds me of Nancy Reagan with glasses, short sassy haircut.
    I called her Spikey Hair. Anita's description is better. She was the only one I saw look at Jodi when the jury first walked in. She took a lot of notes.


    7.Paul Rudd-Younger guy, mid-late 20's with spiky hair, sweat jacket, looks like the actor Paul Rudd.
    He does look like Paul Rudd, but with shorter hair. He's a good looking young man.


    8.The CEO-Good looking man, mid 50's with goatee. Can see him being the jury foreman.
    I called this guy "The Dad". He looks nothing like my dad, Lol, but for whatever reason... I got a fatherly feel from him.


    9.Willy-Old hippy with long white ponytail, thin, small build.
    This guy looked PIZZED the whole time. He seemed to be staring towards the media lady or just into the corner. I only saw him look at JM or JA maybe once.


    10.Barb-Female, 40's, has the "sexy librarian" look, wearing a form fitting sweater, slender build and voluptuous. If ANYONE on the jury is offended by disparaging comments regarding breast augmentation, my guess is it would be her. She is the only juror I couldn't see very clearly; just when she entered and exited the courtroom and when I stretched up out of my seat to gawk at her.
    I called this lady "Plain Jane" She was very hard to see from where I was, but I could tell she was taking notes quite a bit.


    11 Excused for duration of the trial due to illness.Poquito-Little Mexican guy (maybe 5'3) with long graduated pony tail, lots of facial hair and piercings.
    I called him "Paco" He was hard to see too, but mostly because he was slouched down in his seat I thought he'd fall off Lol. At one point he was bent over instead of slouching, but still very hard to see.


    12.Neil-Early 50's high forehead, glasses, looks very nervous and turns red easily. This is the guy that makes KCL nervous.
    I called this guy "Jim" I wrote "very hard to read".


    13.The Wrestler-Younger good looking guy, large build.
    I called this guy "The Jock" He reminded me a little of Oz on American Pie (Chris Klein).


    14.Old potsmoking CPA (I have no idea why I wrote this, i have ZERO recollection of this juror. He did not make any impression on me, other than when I was going down the rows naming them.)
    I called this guy Sleepy. He swiveled in his chair a lot and fell asleep at least twice. He was also slouched down in his chair.


    15.Elderly Man-This man is definitely the oldest juror, he occasionally uses the headphones to listen to the proceedings that Jodie's Auntie uses.
    I called him "Captain" He has a very intense gaze. It's hard to describe but he gives off a stubborn and no bs vibe. Maybe ex military or something?


    16.Maureen-Red haired, glasses (the red might be too red to be a natural ginger) If I had to guess one Mormon on the jury, it would be her.
    I called her The Secretary. She took a lot of notes and had a "polished" look to her. She had her whole body turned facing Jodi. I barely saw her look at JM. She was the only one that really made me feel nervous at all.


    17.Pony Tail-Young girl, pony tail, plain, pony tail and sweats.
    I called her frumpy lady. Not in a rude way... it's just the word that came to mind. Very plain. She took a lot of notes.


    18.The Artist-Bald, attractive, glasses, 50's-60's, large build, holds his notebook on a binder as if he's going to sketch. He looks around the gallery a lot. I thought we met eyes a couple of times, but who knows, that room is so huge!
    This guy also had a very intense gaze. He took some notes. He rubbed his face and tapped his fingers to his lips a lot. He wasn't the only one doing stuff like that, but I'll get into that in my notes.

    Ignore the names I threw in there. We should stick with Anita's. I just thought it would be interesting to give different peoples views on them. More to come!


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    a view from the inside: observations from our own court observers #8

    Continue here (and thank you to all of our peeps posting from the inside):




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    a view from the inside: observations from our own court observers #8

    Continue here:

    Reminder: this is not a general discussion thread.. This thread is for questions for the court observers and their notes. Thanks everyone.


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    i was thinking about the jurors and if they were tired..why would they ask alv alot of questions knowing it would take alot of time..but i think they are just like most of us into this trial sometimes bored and hard to listen testamony.but still come back for more ..frustated but if anyone of them wanted off the jury they could just say they heard something and off they would be..they are maybe thinking as long as it takes (hopefuly justice for travis)

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    Sorry,but I'm starting O/T this morning to say that (speaking for myself) that I started posting here to THANK KCL, PASA and the others who report from the inside of the Court Room and most especially to KCL who does so much for TA Family...I don't know how the other newbies feel but I feel comfortable here...not ready to spread my wings and fly to another thread....anyway, that said, I will abide by your forum rules and try to keep my fingers from typing things that aren't questions for the Court Observers.Thanks AGAIN to KCL...and PASA...I had never been in ICU with a loved one until this past Dec.It's very hard to go through...Healing Prayers for your loved one...stay strong...Last O/T post.

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    Thank you for the new thread, Nurse!

    And... Am sending prayers and hugs your way, PASA, as you and your relative goes through this challenging time....


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    Pasa,
    Just came on this morning and reviewed the last thread. So sorry about your family member in the hospital. May God bless you all and heal your family member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deb2e View Post
    i was thinking about the jurors and if they were tired..why would they ask alv alot of questions knowing it would take alot of time..but i think they are just like most of us into this trial sometimes bored and hard to listen testamony.but still come back for more ..frustated but if anyone of them wanted off the jury they could just say they heard something and off they would be..they are maybe thinking as long as it takes (hopefuly justice for travis)
    These jurors are troopers. NO ONE has called in sick in over 3 months. They are taking their job very seriously. The same cannot be said for Team Jodi.
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    PASA, I hope your family member is doing okay, as are you.

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    Am I the only one who noticed that yesterday it seemed that even Wilmott was trying to hurry AVL along? I think the judge had "a moment" with the attys telling them to quit stalling and letting AVL drone on and on (and on and on and on and....) and get a MOVE on. I thought it interesting. I hope she is the DT's last witness.


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    More jury questions in the basket?? Being submitted as questions being answered by ALV??

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    Pasa, I am just catching up, please don't give another thought to the delayed posting. Our friends on this board, more than anyone, value family and understand. We appreciate everything and send lots of love and hugs for you and your family. Thank you.
    KCL, this was such a wonderful piece of news that you spent some quality time with the first two rows. I'm sure everyone needed a good time some laughter and release. Whenever you get to your notes, its perfectly fine. I want to add my love and hugs and support to the family. I also send the same to you. I wish I could do more, but I so value all you do. Thank you to you.

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    Posted this on the last thread. Making sure Katie sees it.

    Katie, please tell the family for me, that I had a brother and sister in law murdered the same year , 3 months prior to Travis's murder. It was brutal! I end the day crying so much for the family, that my DH has suggested That I quit following, But I can't! If not for the love, phone calls and the support of WS, I would never have made it though. Our trial took 4 years to start and I feel their pain. Until you walk that walk (as you well know), you can't fully comprehend. If they read my brother's thread, they will understand how special, warm and understanding the peeps that are here are. God bless you , your brother, and Ta's family!
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    Wow, yesterday was amazing!!!

    IMO jurors questions were a reflection of Juan Martinez's cross examination on ALV.
    His cross seemed to empower the jurors to ask her to clarify her answers, in other words he provoked them to get a straight answer from her, as she was being so evasive and bias with him. Loved the juror hypothetical question, mirroring JM.

    Just as KCL said in her notes it was more about the questions than the answers!

    Well Done Mr. Martinez!!!!

    Pasa, so sorry to hear of your family member, my thoughts and prayers are with you, take care of you, and find a quiet place to sneak a peak!

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    deedee,

    You post on the closed thread about the video, "The wHole Story" is absolutely hilarious!

    I highly recommended it for any avid trialwatcher.

    My other favorite is the spoof of JA on the stand, Never Before Seen Testimony.

    Thank goodness for those who can wring some humor out of this. It helps get through days of unqualified, biased 'expert' testimony.

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