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    What are your theories

    Long time lurker here.
    Anyways, I have been fascinated with this case for years. I know there had been discussion on whether he was an American or not. Does anyone know if he was circumcised? IF he was, then he is almost an American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDMike View Post
    Long time lurker here.
    Anyways, I have been fascinated with this case for years. I know there had been discussion on whether he was an American or not. Does anyone know if he was circumcised? IF he was, then he is almost an American.
    Or an Israelie or from any where all of this Planet where Jewish People live. Oh and circumsion is not limited to just people in the United States nor Jewish People. Circumsion is definitly more common in the United States but it is by no means exclusive to the USA.

    mjak

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    I'm very far from the USA and circusion is very common. There are health, religion and personal preferance reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernSeaSnail View Post
    I'm very far from the USA and circusion is very common. There are health, religion and personal preferance reasons.
    Which part?
    I'm just saying that there was no indication to suggest that Jason Doe wasn't American. If he was cut, then the odds of him being American are more likely.

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    Contents of Jason's stomach

    If we knew what was in his stomach, it might help to trace his last movements. For example, if he and the driver had the same contents then maybe Jason was at the driver's house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDMike View Post
    If we knew what was in his stomach, it might help to trace his last movements. For example, if he and the driver had the same contents then maybe Jason was at the driver's house.
    If you read the main thread you'll see that they were at the fathers house (if that was GD that was with the driver) together. I can't remember where the driver lived right now, but if my memory serves me correct, the driver had seen his girlfriend, then stoppedin at the dad before going on to his mom. GD also had no money on him, so either he ate nothing or the driver bought him food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernSeaSnail View Post
    If you read the main thread you'll see that they were at the fathers house (if that was GD that was with the driver) together. I can't remember where the driver lived right now, but if my memory serves me correct, the driver had seen his girlfriend, then stoppedin at the dad before going on to his mom. GD also had no money on him, so either he ate nothing or the driver bought him food?
    I thought they were not clear when the driver and JD met. For example, if JD had tacos in his stomach, they could search taco shops around a certain radius. Maybe someone remembered him or even had surveillance video. I don't think he was broke. He had money for tickets and did not appear to be a transient. I would also be interested in his nails; were they clean? That would tell that he wasn't hitchhiking for long.

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    What are your theories?

    Based on his teeth and lack of drugs in his system, I believe he was raised by older people. He was probably very sheltered and decided to explore life. This did not last long since he wasn't transient-looking. I suspect he was probably raised by grandparents.

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    Could be, but the big question is why was he never declared missing? I'm leaning toward the idea that his family knew it was him in the accident and never claimed his body. I also don't think his name was Jason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernSeaSnail View Post
    Could be, but the big question is why was he never declared missing? I'm leaning toward the idea that his family knew it was him in the accident and never claimed his body. I also don't think his name was Jason.
    He could have been reported missing but never properly investigated. His case maybe on the doenetwork but no one was been able to match him. Maybe his caretakers died shortly after he died.


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    i think he either lost his stuff or had it stolen during the concert. i think he was scheduled to meet up with people after the show and didn't make it to the rendezvous spot until later. i think the note was for him, although i don't think it was from people he knew very well so it's possible they wrote "jason" when his name was justin or james simply due to not knowing him well. i don't think the carolines had any reason to worry about him as i suspect they had probably offered him a ride if he needed it but weren't counting on him being there. a likely scenario would be him mentioning that his stuff was stolen or lost and them saying "well if you can't find it, meet us at our car by x o'clock and we'll give you a ride" or something similar.

    i think he started hitchhiking and the driver happened upon him, recognized a fellow hippy, and offered him a ride. it's possible the driver was going past where doe needed to be, but it's a lot more likely he was simply going to drive him to wherever their paths diverged and doe was planning to figure it out on the fly from there. i don't think doe came from a great family but i don't think there are any conspiracies about it - likely simply was unfortunate enough to not have a lot of people who cared that much. he might have a pattern of running away or disappearing. he's likely someone that classmates from high school wonder "what ever happened to that guy?" but not enough close friends for someone to make a connection.

    at this point, almost two decades later, i don't think there's a chance of finding either of the carolines or having someone come forward on purpose to find him. i think a dna match is the best hope.

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    I have come to believe that the person who called LE after Jason was killed and seemed to know details about him that were not released, was a member of his family. They know he is dead, but for some reason they have not claimed his body. Perhaps they were poor and worried about the funeral costs or maybe they had disowned him and were not interested in giving him a funeral.

    Its a heartbreaking thought that his family are willfully not claiming him, and that we will likely never find out his true identity, but this is by far the most likely scenario given the phone call that was made to LE.

    I do still live in hope that I am wrong and that the answer is out there amongst the missing persons reports. I often think of Lee Buckle, who I think looks awfully like Jason, but circumstances are a big stretch and there are differences in their stats too... http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/...d_son/?ref=rss

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    Does Jason look ethnic looking?

    You know how some people have a certain look and you know their ethnicity? Does Jason look ethnic to anyone?

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    1. I don't think his name was Jason. He might either have reinvented himself and chosen
    Jason or someone just got his name wrong when writing the note.
    2. I think he might have been European and that's why he was never reported missing. His relatives might have decided that he had disappeared volontarily and if looking for him later they might not have even thought of the possibility of him being dead.
    3. I think he is older than he looks.
    4. I can't completely disregard the Amish angle although I think it is more likely in this case than most others.

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    I dont really have a theory on this but this guy looks an AWFUL lot like a guy wearing a tye died shirt a friend and I picked up on Route 1 from Florida to Va when I was 21....That was 22 years ago so Im not sure the math is right.This guy was a HUGE Grateful Dead fan who told us he was travelling the country following them wherever they played.

    I remember him because he actually saved our lives.We were having trouble with our catalytic converter which I fixed before we picked him up at a service station in SC I believe. I had been driving 10 hours straight under very stressful conditions (30mph top speed going across the Savannah bridge in rush hour traffic) until I knocked a hole in the converter with a hammer.

    I was falling asleep behind the wheel and my friend didnt have a license. I actually dozed off and ran off the road a number of times before this guy talked me into letting him drive. I asked him if he was going to kill us in our sleep and he laughed and said no so I handed him the keys. I was THAT tired to trust a total stranger to drive.

    We dropped him off in Richmond Va about 6 hours from his goal of New York.

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