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    AZ - Congress, WhtMale Skeletal 134UMAZ, 23-59, Died Many Years Prior, Mar'98

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 134UMAZ
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/134umaz.html
    NamUs UP Case 10931 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10931


    Sketches of Victim

    Unidentified White Male

    Located on March 5, 1998 in Yavapai County, Arizona.
    Estimated to have been deceased 3 - 10 or more years prior to discovery.
    Skeletal Remains

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 23 - 59 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6" - 5'10"; weight unknown
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Hair color or style unknown. Attention is directed to the facial features.
    Dentals: Available

    Case History
    The victim was located near Congress, Arizona in Yavapai County, near State Route 89.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 04-20-2013 at 03:01 AM.

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    Glenn Dukart sure has that same distinctive broad face as this John Doe. I was looking at him as a possible for this John Doe when his NamUs MP casefile came out. But there wasn't a photo at the time to compare to the recon. Now that I see the photo. I think it looks pretty good.

    The mandible of the UID was not located, so the chin and jawlines should not be used as a basis for comparison.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4722dmaz.html
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/19819/0



    ... and his Loc LKA is Yavapai County, where the UID was found.

    The timeframe is 17 years. The estimated postmortem interval is "3 - 10 or more" years.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 08-27-2013 at 10:00 PM.

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    Unless it is a typo, Glenn Dukart, at 78.5 inches (6'6 1/2") tall is a lot taller than the height estimate for this UID (the NamUs estimate is 68 inches).

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    His DoeNet page says 6'1" to 6'2". Still a little tall, but I have seen enough height screw ups that I wouldn't rely too much on that.

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    Hi there! Just wanted to give you some additional information. I got this case relooked at a few months ago, I've met with Glenn's family and have built a case file on my own for school. He was over 6 foot 5 inches according to his family at the time he went missing. (trying to get doe network to update this) he went missing April 12 1981 so 32 years ago. His pants, Wallet and size 16 shoes were found in 1982 north of lake pleasant arizona. So at the time he went missing he could not have had very much clothing on. Thanks for your interested in the case. I also have another clearer picture tho cannot upload it here so please let me know if you want that.

    Thanks!

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    Here is the photo

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    The Doe Network:
    Case File 134UMAZ
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/134umaz.html
    NamUs UP Case 10931 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10931


    Sketches of Victim

    Unidentified White Male

    Located on March 5, 1998 in Yavapai County, Arizona.
    Estimated to have been deceased 3 - 10 or more years prior to discovery.
    Skeletal Remains

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 23 - 59 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6" - 5'10"; weight unknown
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Hair color or style unknown. Attention is directed to the facial features.
    Dentals: Available

    Case History
    The victim was located near Congress, Arizona in Yavapai County, near State Route 89.
    Wow Carl, you take the nose shape, eye appearance and overall face structure minus the lower jaw, I think you have a real good likeness for this UID. He is on the far end of the spectrum for how long he may have been out there but we have seen that wrong so many times, plus it does say 10 or more years. I also agree on the height not being a factor for a rule out. It seems they only get height right on, or even close about half the time. Worth a submission I think, if it is not already being looked at because of the close proximity between missing and UID.
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    I've forwaded the case to the detective who is working on this with me from Yavapai County Sheriffs Office. He doesn't have a lot to go on as we are still waiting on a copy of the dental records and DNA swabs were taken of his siblings and parents just a few weeks ago. But it's same county so hopefully he can take a look.



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