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    Quote Originally Posted by gngr~snap View Post
    As TMZ previously reported, his 26-year-old brother Tamerlan -- who was killed by cops during the manhunt -- was deep into hip hop.

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    not sure why thats funny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    I guess I am trying to determine if the surviving one is practicing Islam, and radical Islam to boot.

    Mohammed forbid the killing of women, children and civilians in war, or military actions, IIRC. It is quite a stretch to compare whatever the bombers beliefs are/were with Islam..at least as I am familiar with it. Whatever element the bombers were attracted to, I dont believe it was rooted in true Islam. I hate that communities of Muslims inside of the United States feel like they have to make statements about these guys. I dont recall anyone making apologies for Timothy McVeigh, but I could be wrong.
    well practicing is the key word. his twitter account he is truly a islamic follower. I'm a catholic but I'm not a good one (value wise) i think the problem with islam is its got a really ugly underbelly that is used to entice these lost souls for violence. does not in any way represent the muslim religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardenlady View Post
    Ok that said both uncles are in MD. I could have sworn I read there was an uncle up here in New England.

    We need a family tree on these two guys STAT!
    Thanks Gardenlady ... I am working on a timeline, and have the name Tarviz as an uncle. I know it didn't dream it up, so maybe it's your New England guy. Will keep snooping on it.

    On another note (possibly discussed in posts I have yet to read today), but rice cookers are a popular device with terrorists:

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    The group appears to have been more creative than other terror groups in assembling explosive devices, employing, among other items, plastic food containers and rice cookers.

    Found at the house of Barkah Nawa Saputra, a suspect arrested in the most recent anti-terror operation, were “two rice cooker casings with two bomb switches using rigged mobile phones and 20 bottles of chemical substances, electronic devices, 13 detonator caps and dozens of switches,” Boy said over the weekend.

    Boy added that two of those arrested, Badri Hartono and Rudi Kurnia Putra, both 45 years old, recruited young men and taught at least one member of the group how to make bombs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ven View Post
    The reports are he tried to commit suicide in the boat but failed. Supposedly placed the gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger, but he angled the gun wrong and instead of hitting his brain stem or anything, bullet just went out the back of his neck. Still a very severe injury but with paramedics literally right there he should survive.
    I read that suicide attempt was suspected. What interested me more was the report that he was able to curse the EMT's, if that report is accurate. There's been speculation that he might never be able to speak again.

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    "He confirmed that Tamerlan Tsarnaev had video of a known jihadist on his YouTube channel, footage the source had viewed and characterized as "extremely inflammatory."

    http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/s...self-1.5113586
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefragile7393 View Post
    not sure why thats funny?

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    Me either. Is the implication that anyone *deeply into hip-hop* is a potential terrorist? I personally think that musical tastes are irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gooniequeen View Post
    . his twitter account he is truly a islamic follower.


    Well he is the one who has 90,000 followers, can not remember how many he is actually following but is quite minute to his followers, quite a few for a 19 year old kid IMHO



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    fwiw. plenty of catholics and jews smoke pot, listen to hip-hop and kill fellow humans.
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    he had 79 followers on friday...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ven View Post
    I doubt he's thinking about anything except for himself.

    It was reported that he was cursing violently during the ambulance trip to the hospital. I'm sure the emergency personnel in the ambulance were doing their jobs, but I'm also sure they had a lot of choice words for him too about what the remainder of his life will be like from now on.
    Could you supply a link to an MSM news source for that statement, please? Thanks in advance.

    Nevermind, I see now the AP article in Newsday:

    http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/s...self-1.5113586

    All I can say is, I am sick to death of the Unnamed Source. And, my tendency now is to disregard all that they say until the source is named or until the story is confirmed by at least two other legitimate news sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardenlady View Post
    No, i dont think we know that. i will try to find the article where the Imam, or perhaps just a spokesperson at the cultural center in Cambridge said he had only visited once.
    Attendance at an American mosque is not a prerecquisate to having radical Islamist views. We know that from the 9-11 terrorists. You don't have to be carrying a KKK membership and be at the weekly Skinhead meeting to hold racist views...and if there are expressions and links to hate....would you say "we can't know that" ...if this were a Skinhead who terrorized a Black church.

    I don't believe thatAmerican mosques teach Jihad...so the attendance or non attendance of these brothers is meaningless. They were enamoured by Jihad.


    We have seen countless articles where family, friends, politicans on all sides, FBI, etc ..even the government of Russia understood that the older brother had become strident in his religion and his Jihadist tendencies. We have seen evidence that he had great influence on his younger brother.

    I think there is only a miniscule chance...if even that...that we do not know the part radical Islam beliefs by these brothers played in this atrocity.

    Even one American Iman today said he would not afford the older one a Muslim burial. That Iman understands that radical jihadists are an abomination to his Faith...so no need to pretend these brothers were just fascinated by pressure cookers.

    Jihadists are not devout Muslims...they just think they are...to the horror of humanity.

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/0...tes/?hpt=hp_t2

    A least one Boston cleric said he would refuse to perform funeral rites for a man accused of committing so much violence. The Quran, said Imam Talal Eid, says that anyone who has killed another human being is going to hell.

    Eid, who is imam at the Boston Islamic Institute, said he had never met the Tsarnaev brothers but questioned media accounts that Tamerlan Tsarnaev had become a devout Muslim.

    "A person who is devoted does not kill innocent people," Eid said.

    Yusufi Vali, executive director of the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center, the largest mosque in the Boston area, also rejected the Tsarnaev brothers.

    "I don't care who or what these criminals claim to be, but I can never recognize these criminals as part of my city or my faith community," he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooniequeen View Post
    not sure i get the irony. ill take you to any prison in the US and introduce you to black muslim rappers.
    Or rappers of any or no religious affilation, or just plain ol' felons who listen to rap music, regardless of their religious affiliation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefragile7393 View Post
    not sure why thats funny?

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    Isn't it? Kinda does not fit with an extremist...
    It is funny to me.

    I love "hip hop"...
    never heard jihad hip hop- I just googled it... that's sick and twisted. imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capri View Post
    A 19-year-old neighbor who lives with his parents tells WJZ he met Suspect No. 2 a few years ago.

    “He couldn’t speak very much English,” he said. “He just came off as a very shy person. I knew he was smart, but he dropped out of school. Then after that I don’t know what happened to him.”
    seriously? if they've been here since they were 8 or 9, I don't see how it's possible that he can't speak much english...certainly doesn't show that on his twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ven View Post
    I doubt he's thinking about anything except for himself.

    It was reported that he was cursing violently during the ambulance trip to the hospital. I'm sure the emergency personnel in the ambulance were doing their jobs, but I'm also sure they had a lot of choice words for him too about what the remainder of his life will be like from now on.


    Is it possible he could have sustained an injury to his tongue (as some reports have it) and still be able to "curse violently" in the ambulance and not be able to speak now?



    ETA: Just saw in post #58 that he was "mouthing" curse words.....makes more sense.
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