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    Quote Originally Posted by Capri View Post
    Why was he admitted? What illness or accident?
    Couldn't tell from that article whether ambulance was called last Thursday or this Thursday? Is it Thursday there already, could that be? I thought he was on his way to the US?

    ETA: nevermind, I thought this was Wednesday, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isabelle View Post
    Couldn't tell from that article whether ambulance was called last Thursday or this Thursday? Is it Thursday there already, could that be? I thought he was on his way to the US?
    This Thursday.
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    Carjack victim recounts his harrowing night
    http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013...JNN/story.html

    The story of that night unfolds like a Tarantino movie, bursts of harrowing action laced with dark humor and dialogue absurd for its ordinariness, reminders of just how young the men in the car were. Girls, credit limits for students, the marvels of the Mercedes ML 350 and the iPhone 5, whether anyone still listens to CDs -- all were discussed by the two 26-year-olds and the 19-year-old driving around on a Thursday night.

    Danny described 90 harrowing minutes, first with the younger brother following in a second car, then with both brothers in the Mercedes, where they openly discussed driving to New York, though Danny could not make out if they were planning another attack. Throughout the ordeal, he did as they asked while silently analyzing every threatened command, every overheard snatch of dialogue for clues about where and when they might kill him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belimom View Post
    Not sure if this has been posted, but for those Uncle Ruslan fans (and others as well), I thought you'd appreciate it. Although the title says 'Muslims', it can apply to any group, organization, or community. A very good read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrell skye View Post
    I wish the unnamed sources would have been indentified. His/her names may have been withheld due to security reasons, but I always like to know my sources, so that I can determine (for myself) if they're credible or not. A 'senior US official with direct knowledge of the information' may or may not be be trying to cover his/her own ass, and/or the so-called sources may or may not be credible sources. IDK

    I can't help but wonder why the Russian Federal Security Service would have contacted the FBI 2 years ago requesting an investigation into Tamerlan Tsarnaev (of all people) unless there was a reason. I say 'of all people', because 2 years ago, who was Tamerlan, except a 24 year old dead-beat college drop-out Russian immigrant father?

    Today, 2 years later, Tamerlan Tsarnaev is a deceased alleged terrorist.

    I need to know why Russia was suspicious of him back in 2011, so much so that they wanted the FBI to look into him.

    If Russia's Federal Security Service has more information on Tamerlan Tsarnaev and/or anyone else who may have influenced him (including possibly his family members), they need to share it with the FBI.
    The Russians might not have had much specific information to offer. Maybe they were alerted by his posts on monitored websites, but nothing more. I'd like access to TT's internet activity, myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrell skye View Post
    I wish the unnamed sources would have been indentified. His/her names may have been withheld due to security reasons, but I always like to know my sources, so that I can determine (for myself) if they're credible or not. A 'senior US official with direct knowledge of the information' may or may not be be trying to cover his/her own ass, and/or the so-called sources may or may not be credible sources. IDK

    I can't help but wonder why the Russian Federal Security Service would have contacted the FBI 2 years ago requesting an investigation into Tamerlan Tsarnaev (of all people) unless there was a reason. I say 'of all people', because 2 years ago, who was Tamerlan, except a 24 year old dead-beat college drop-out Russian immigrant father?

    Today, 2 years later, Tamerlan Tsarnaev is a deceased alleged terrorist.

    I need to know why Russia was suspicious of him back in 2011, so much so that they wanted the FBI to look into him.

    If Russia's Federal Security Service has more information on Tamerlan Tsarnaev and/or anyone else who may have influenced him (including possibly his family members), they need to share it with the FBI.

    The odd thing to me is. First they request info from the FBI while he's in Russia, they give little to no information with the request... He's investigated, nothing turns up so the case is closed, then what was? it 10 months later the Russians ask the same thing of the CIA and supply them with the same baseless info. There's obviously something that has their attention but they won't say what.

    I don't know...lol starting to feel like a Robert Ludlum novel

    now the dad who was all set to come to the USA and talk is rumored to have been whisked off to the hospital. If that is true and he never makes it to the US it just affirms my remarks yesterday that dad possibly didn't feel safe speaking candidly in Russia and was coming here to tell the feds things he couldn't say at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    This Thursday.
    I know! I just realized I had my days mixed up. I do home health and usually have a patient to see on Monday, but didn't this week, so I think it just messed me up. Of course, could be a little CRS too!

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    cbs news has an article on potential Misha that TT knew. Sounds like TT wasn't happy with Misha anymore.
    "Tamerlan writes, "You're not Mikael anymore, but you're back to being Misha, as you were before Islam. You converted to Shiism not because you truly believe in it, but because of your own whims and interests (only Allah knows what they truly are). As you entered Islam, you have exited it. [With the same ease]. You have betrayed yourself, Misha. Whatever, goodbye." "
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...isha-on-islam/
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodled1 View Post
    The odd thing to me is. First they request info from the FBI while he's in Russia, they give little to no information with the request... He's investigated, nothing turns up so the case is closed, then what was? it 10 months later the Russians ask the same thing of the CIA and supply them with the same baseless info. There's obviously something that has their attention but they won't say what.

    I don't know...lol starting to feel like a Robert Ludlum novel

    now the dad who was all set to come to the USA and talk is rumored to have been whisked off to the hospital. If that is true and he never makes it to the US it just affirms my remarks yesterday that dad possibly didn't feel safe speaking candidly in Russia and was coming here to tell the feds things he couldn't say at home.
    I find it much more likely dad doesn't want to come to US.
    These people are very suspicoius and do not appear to like US one bit. Maybe dad is concerned he will get arrested here.
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrell skye View Post
    For all anyone knows, this 'Misha' character may or may not even exist.

    Has anyone from the Tsarnaev family mentioned him, besides Anzor & Zubeidat Tsarnaev?

    Based on these parents' track record, I don't trust anything either one of them says.
    His brother-in-law did.

    Once, Khozhugov said, Misha came to the family home outside Boston and sat in the kitchen, chatting with Tamerlan for hours.

    "Misha was telling him what is Islam, what is good in Islam, what is bad in Islam," said Khozhugov, who said he was present for the conversation. "This is the best religion and that's it. Mohammed said this and Mohammed said that."


    "It was late, like midnight," Khozhugov said. "His father comes in and says, 'Why is Misha here so late and still in our house?' He asked it politely. Tamerlan was so much into the conversation he didn't listen."

    Khozhugov said Tamerlan's mother, Zubeidat, told him not to worry.

    "'Don't interrupt them,'" Khozhugov recalled the mother saying. "'They're talking about religion and good things. Misha is teaching him to be good and nice.'"


    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/bomb-...erious-radical

    Tsarni, Tsarnaev's uncle, told CNN he was so concerned about someone brainwashing his nephew that he called a family friend in the Cambridge area to investigate.
    "I said, 'Listen, do you know what is going on with that family? With my brother's family?' Then he says ... there is a person, some new convert into Islam of Armenian descent," Tsarni told CNN's Shannon Travis.


    "It started (in) 2009. And it started right there, in Cambridge," Tsarni said of the friendship.

    The Islamic Society of Boston told CNN Wednesday that so far no one in its network reported knowing a "Misha" who fit that description.
    "We are looking for him," said spokeswoman Nichole Mossalam.


    http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/24/us/bos...ash/index.html
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    Just checked in on Jeff Bauman's FB and he is now in rehab!!! Bless his heart! I will never forget his face as it is forever burned into my memory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    The Russians might not have had much specific information to offer. Maybe they were alerted by his posts on monitored websites, but nothing more. I'd like access to TT's internet activity, myself.
    Boy wouldn't we all...He was pretty careful I think, other than the youtube account there doesn't seem to be much out there.. normally you can't hide that stuff from your typical internet crowd sourcing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrell skye View Post
    I wish the unnamed sources would have been indentified. His/her names may have been withheld due to security reasons, but I always like to know my sources, so that I can determine (for myself) if they're credible or not. A 'senior US official with direct knowledge of the information' may or may not be be trying to cover his/her own ass, and/or the so-called sources may or may not be credible sources. IDK

    I can't help but wonder why the Russian Federal Security Service would have contacted the FBI 2 years ago requesting an investigation into Tamerlan Tsarnaev (of all people) unless there was a reason. I say 'of all people', because 2 years ago, who was Tamerlan, except a 24 year old dead-beat college drop-out Russian immigrant father?

    Today, 2 years later, Tamerlan Tsarnaev is a deceased alleged terrorist.

    I need to know why Russia was suspicious of him back in 2011, so much so that they wanted the FBI to look into him.

    If Russia's Federal Security Service has more information on Tamerlan Tsarnaev and/or anyone else who may have influenced him (including possibly his family members), they need to share it with the FBI.
    Although not clearly spelled out the Russians have good reason to watch Chechen separatist for terror activity against Russia if Russia suspected this to be the case.

    The family then moved for a short time to Makhachkala in Dagestan, next to Chechnya, a mainly Muslim Russian republic that fought a war with Russia marked by terrorist attacks in Moscow and Beslan.
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...,6301569.story

    The feelings run deep between the two and I'm sure Russia watches terror activity from this area because of this incident (for reference).

    The Beslan school hostage crisis (also referred to as the Beslan school siege or Beslan massacre)[2][3][4] of early September 2004 lasted three days and involved the capture of over 1,100 people as hostages (including 777 children),[5] ending with the death of over 380 people. The crisis began when a group of armed Islamic separatist militants, mostly Ingush and Chechen, occupied School Number One (SNO) in the town of Beslan, North Ossetia (an autonomous republic in the North Caucasus region of the Russian Federation) on 1 September 2004. The hostage-takers were the Riyadus-Salikhin Battalion, sent by the Chechen separatist warlord Shamil Basayev, who demanded recognition of the independence of Chechnya at the UN and Russian withdrawal from Chechnya.
    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis"]Beslan school hostage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    To continue with another incident:

    The Moscow theater hostage crisis, also known as the 2002 Nord-Ost siege, was the seizure of the crowded Dubrovka Theater on 23 October 2002 by some 40 to 50 armed Chechens who claimed allegiance to the Islamist militant separatist movement in Chechnya.[1] They took 850 hostages and demanded the withdrawal of Russian forces from Chechnya and an end to the Second Chechen War.
    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis"]Moscow theater hostage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    These are a couple of Russia's major incidents with Chechen separatist and why I beleive Russia was watching and gave a warning to the US about the older brother.

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    I've seen nothing to suggest this Misha character ever did/suggested anything terror related. Misha sounds very religious, but so what?
    Teaching someone about Islam and such doesn't indicate anything.
    I think it's just an effort by some in this family to pass blame.
    Just my opinion

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    It does not make sense to me that Russia would reach out for help investigating a potential terrorist, and then not reply when contacted for more info. I wonder if it truly happened that way, or could someone be spinning it a bit, to cover themselves?
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