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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    I've seen nothing to suggest this Misha character ever did/suggested anything terror related. Misha sounds very religious, but so what?
    Teaching someone about Islam and such doesn't indicate anything.
    I think it's just an effort by some in this family to pass blame.
    I don't think the brother-in-law has much interest in protecting the family from blame. JMO, but I think he's passing along the information in earnest. He even said that he didn't witness Misha "making him radical".
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/24/us/bos...ash/index.html

    My feeling about "Misha" is that he planted a seed, and that might have been the end of his involvement. I don't know, but according to what Uncle Ruslan and the BIL have said, he created quite a stir within the family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodled1 View Post
    The odd thing to me is. First they request info from the FBI while he's in Russia, they give little to no information with the request... He's investigated, nothing turns up so the case is closed, then what was? it 10 months later the Russians ask the same thing of the CIA and supply them with the same baseless info. There's obviously something that has their attention but they won't say what.

    I don't know...lol starting to feel like a Robert Ludlum novel

    now the dad who was all set to come to the USA and talk is rumored to have been whisked off to the hospital. If that is true and he never makes it to the US it just affirms my remarks yesterday that dad possibly didn't feel safe speaking candidly in Russia and was coming here to tell the feds things he couldn't say at home.
    If Anzor didn't feel safe talking to the US investigators in Russia, out of fear of persecution by the Russian government, then I would think he would have boarded the first flight outta there.

    If Anzor was taken to a hospital, it could be because he was truly ill, or it could be a made-up story. If it's a made-up story (IDK whether it is or not), perhaps he believes the nonsensical conspiracy theories his wife seems to believe - that "America took my sons because they are Muslim" (paraphrased), not to mention her other recent wild claims about the Boston bombing victims' blood on the pavement being "paint".

    I don't agree that this is all sounding like a Robert Ludlum novel. That would imply that Tamerlan & Jahar were programmed by the CIA to carry out black-ops as part of some super-secret CIA operation. I don't believe that for a single solitary second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    It does not make sense to me that Russia would reach out for help investigating a potential terrorist, and then not reply when contacted for more info. I wonder if it truly happened that way, or could someone be spinning it a bit, to cover themselves?
    FWIW, this is what the New York Times reported on Saturday.

    A Russian intelligence official told the Interfax news service on Saturday that Russia had not been able to provide the United States with “operatively significant” information about the Tsarnaev brothers, “because the Tsarnaev brothers had not been living in Russia.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    FWIW, this is what the New York Times reported on Saturday.

    A Russian intelligence official told the Interfax news service on Saturday that Russia had not been able to provide the United States with “operatively significant” information about the Tsarnaev brothers, “because the Tsarnaev brothers had not been living in Russia.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/us...=2&ref=us&_r=0
    So maybe it did happen that way, and everyone dropped the ball, letting him fall through the cracks. Sad.
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    I think this video is taken when Katherine Russell was first removed by the FBI from the Tsarnaev's Cambridge apartment on Friday, Apr 19. She is holding her daughter.

    [ame="http://www.flickr.com/photos/32368051@N08/8673018473/in/photostream/"]Katherine Russell Tsarnaev & FBI | Flickr - Photo Sharing![/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophieRose View Post
    I think this video is taken when Katherine Russell was first removed by the FBI from the Tsarnaev's Cambridge apartment on Friday, Apr 19. She is holding her daughter.

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    Off to the right of the video is a note saying, "video taken April 22, 2013". I just can't imagine she would have stayed at that apartment after everything that had happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isabelle View Post
    Off to the right of the video is a note saying, "video taken April 22, 2013". I just can't imagine she would have stayed at that apartment after everything that had happened.
    No, it was taken Friday, April 19. You can hear the announcer start to say Friday and then the video skips because they don't want to show the daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isabelle View Post
    Off to the right of the video is a note saying, "video taken April 22, 2013". I just can't imagine she would have stayed at that apartment after everything that had happened.
    This article was posted at 1:03 AM on Sunday morning.

    The weeping bride of the elder Boston bomber returned to the family’s Cambridge home yesterday, a day after her twisted husband died in a shootout with police.

    “She came to get her cat also,” he added. “I heard the cat crying.”

    She left the home after a few minutes carrying her pet cat, a shopping bag and a duffel bag."

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    Does anyone know where the child was Thursday night?

    Katherine Russell last saw her husband Thursday, just hours before he died in a gun battle with police, according to a source close to the family. She was handing off her 2-year-old daughter to stay with him while she went to work, the source said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    cbs news has an article on potential Misha that TT knew. Sounds like TT wasn't happy with Misha anymore.
    "Tamerlan writes, "You're not Mikael anymore, but you're back to being Misha, as you were before Islam. You converted to Shiism not because you truly believe in it, but because of your own whims and interests (only Allah knows what they truly are). As you entered Islam, you have exited it. [With the same ease]. You have betrayed yourself, Misha. Whatever, goodbye." "
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...isha-on-islam/
    Tamerlan was obviously vexed that his previous mentor had adopted Shiism. For whatever reason, Tamerlan was opposed to Shiism.

    The above comments by Tamerlan are reminiscent of when he had the audacity to scold the Imam who praised Martin Luther King, Jr.

    I think Tamerlan fancied himself as wise. His father has referred to him as wise. His mother seems to worship the ground he once walked upon. I think Tamerlan was raised to believe that he could do no wrong and developed a dangerously inflated ego, possibly fueled by his parents' desire that he accomplish great things.

    It's possible that this despicable know-it-all (who truly knew nothing & who was bereft of any genuine spiritual enlightenment), believed that by killing innocent people, he would teach his previous spiritual mentors (whom he arrogantly believed were in error) a lesson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrell skye View Post
    Tamerlan was obviously vexed that his previous mentor had adopted Shiism. For whatever reason, Tamerlan was opposed to Shiism.

    The above comments by Tamerlan are reminiscent of when he had the audacity to scold the Imam who praised Martin Luther King, Jr.

    I think Tamerlan fancied himself as wise. His father has referred to him as wise. His mother seems to worship the ground he once walked upon. I think Tamerlan was raised to believe that he could do no wrong and developed a dangerously inflated ego, possibly fueled by his parents' desire that he accomplish great things.

    It's possible that this despicable know-it-all (who truly knew nothing & who was bereft of any genuine spiritual enlightenment), believed that by killing innocent people, he would teach his previous spiritual mentors (whom he arrogantly believed were in error) a lesson.
    Just to note, the article points out that the person addressed in the video might be a different "Misha".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    cbs news has an article on potential Misha that TT knew. Sounds like TT wasn't happy with Misha anymore.
    "Tamerlan writes, "You're not Mikael anymore, but you're back to being Misha, as you were before Islam. You converted to Shiism not because you truly believe in it, but because of your own whims and interests (only Allah knows what they truly are). As you entered Islam, you have exited it. [With the same ease]. You have betrayed yourself, Misha. Whatever, goodbye." "
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...isha-on-islam/
    With the definition above of why they say Misha (Bear) as opposed to the other word (sort of like saying Candy Man, I guess,) perhaps TT means Mikael has done something dishonorable and is now worthy of the name Misha.
    Could it simply be used as name calling or dismissing Mikael?
    The facts are now buried amongst theory, opinion and rumor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    Just to note, the article points out that the person addressed in the video might be a different "Misha".
    Yes - true. He could have been addressing someone other than his previous mentor known as Misha.

    Nonetheless, Tamerlan seemed to have appointed himself as teacher to whomever he was addressing, and seemed to have considered himself as some sort of authority on Islam - a self-appointed Imam, if you will.

    He strikes me as a self-righteous, arrogant know-it-all who knew nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    Does anyone know where the child was Thursday night?

    Katherine Russell last saw her husband Thursday, just hours before he died in a gun battle with police, according to a source close to the family. She was handing off her 2-year-old daughter to stay with him while she went to work, the source said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/22/us/bos...ife/index.html
    Nothing's been reported where the child was Thursday night. I wonder if TT passed her off to the landlord that night.

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    In the article that accompanies the "Misha" video, it tells where this guy lived when he first became Muslim. It was over there. Did not sound like he had lived in the U.S.

    Do we think the Misha who was mentor to the bomber lived here in the U.S.?

    FWIW the Attorney Uncle in his long interview the day after the younger bomber's capture (available on youtube) says that Misha was "attending a mosque right there on Massachusetts Ave." (in Cambridge).

    He also mentions another Chechen immigrant family who lived there in Cambridge that he had called back in 2009 when Older Bomber first started spouting the religious BS. He asked the man what was going on with his brother's family and that man told him about Misha and his growing influence on both Older Bomber and Mouthy Momma.

    I would think Attorney Uncle has shared this info with the FBI and they will contact the Chechen immigrant guy to get further info on Misha.

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