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    Paul Fronczak

    Quote Originally Posted by Satch View Post
    WOW! What a story! With regards to the URL:

    http://www.8newsnow.com/story/220800...emains-mystery.

    I got a look at "Paul's" baby picture, and did think of the Billy Jones case. Billy was kidnapped from his yard in December of 1962, while his Mother who was preparing lunch went into a bedroom to check on her other son. The little toddler's sister said the man gave her a plastic flower and had taken Billy. It would be interesting to see where in New Jersey back in 1965 "Paul" was found in relation to where the Jones' lived in 1962. I think the family still lived in the same house in 1965. Also not too good at picture ID's, but I think "Paul" looks more like Billy Jones than Jamie Bordenkircher.

    Satch
    I have a few Questions:

    1. What about this monster woman from Tennessee that stole babies and children that could of took Paul and stole him to a couple who was childless? Didn't that happen around that time?

    2. I also believe that Paul could be Billy Jones. Paul in his features on his face, looks exactly like Billy.. hmmm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomeroreo View Post
    I have a few Questions:

    1. What about this monster woman from Tennessee that stole babies and children that could of took Paul and stole him to a couple who was childless? Didn't that happen around that time?

    2. I also believe that Paul could be Billy Jones. Paul in his features on his face, looks exactly like Billy.. hmmm
    Children taken from their families or birth mothers coerced under false pretenses to give up their child where called blackmarket adoptions. There where many of them in the 50's-70's. Prior years where also documented just not as prevalent. Children where snatched right from their yards or snuck right out the front door at hospitals. It was basically human trafficking before it was called this.

    The ring leaders would pay someone snatch the baby or small child and then he/she would arrange for an adoptive family to pay a finders fee. Of course the birth certificate would be falsified by a doctor that was being paid off. Some of the ringleaders where actually doctors, social workers, and people who ran children's homes.

    If Paul was indeed a black market baby why would he have been found wondering in NJ though?

    Edit- Here's a list of the biggest blackmarket baby sellers of the 60's including in Tennesee
    http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ances...s/BMA/BMA2.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomeroreo View Post
    I have a few Questions:

    1. What about this monster woman from Tennessee that stole babies and children that could of took Paul and stole him to a couple who was childless? Didn't that happen around that time?

    2. I also believe that Paul could be Billy Jones. Paul in his features on his face, looks exactly like Billy.. hmmm
    Billy Jones was born March 5, 1959 so he would have been almost 5 1/2 years old when the boy abandoned in a stroller was found in New Jersey.

    There'd be an difference physically between a toddler in a stroller and a 5 1/2 year old. Plus most 5 1/2 year olds would be able to articulate at least something about themselves, their name, etc.

    Doesn't seem like the timeline quite works for Billy Jones to be a possibility.

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    I agree with you Pink. I just found out in March of 2014 that I have a biological grandpa that also did some strange things including bigamy and stolen children and what my bio grandma did changing identities that she took with her when she passed away on December 1, 1983 and my dad passed away on January 10, 2011. Its a big headache I have been facing since finding out. I'm wondering with all the families now, just not us and Paul, but with everyone whose is who. I hope that this man can find out who he really is and i'm glad he did find some relatives so far.


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    There is been an update, part of the mystery is solved and a new mystery emerges. Still no news of the bio Paul Fronczak.

    But adoptive Paul found out his name was originally Jack and had a twin sister, Jill. Jill is missing.

    "We have no record of what happened to her. Our research indicates that both her and I mysteriously disappeared before our second birthdays. I was found abandoned in Newark and we have nothing on Jill, he added.

    http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-te...mystery-solved
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    Can I discuss my theory here or should we open up a new thread for Jack and Jill??

    My theory is that something happened to Jill due to the abuse or neglect of the parents and they left Jack somewhere because people might ask too many questions if one twin remained with the family. It makes more sense to give a set of twins to family members than only one twin. I am thinking that one parent was the primary abuser and the other had more of a bond since Jack was left in a populated area where he would be found rather than a rural area where he would not survive.

    Alternate theory, they left Jack in Newark and Jill someplace else so it would be more difficult to trace the kids back to the parents. Or they rehomed the girl with someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellemo View Post
    Can I discuss my theory here or should we open up a new thread for Jack and Jill??

    My theory is that something happened to Jill due to the abuse or neglect of the parents and they left Jack somewhere because people might ask too many questions if one twin remained with the family. It makes more sense to give a set of twins to family members than only one twin. I am thinking that one parent was the primary abuser and the other had more of a bond since Jack was left in a populated area where he would be found rather than a rural area where he would not survive.

    Alternate theory, they left Jack in Newark and Jill someplace else so it would be more difficult to trace the kids back to the parents. Or they rehomed the girl with someone.
    We still know very little,

    I agree with the theory that Jill was the victim of abuse and/or negelct and died tragically. A cover up may have been involved. There's no death certificate for her IMO, because her death was not reported by authorities to avoid parental prosecution for abuse or neglect.

    Concerned and protective family members were horrified that Jack could suffer the same fate, so they left him in an urban area, hoping that he would be adopted by caring people. Certainly a risky chance, but back in 1965, they didn't have the kind of social and protective services for kids like they do now. If Jack was abandoned by the "bad" parents, who abused and may have killed Jill, they probably felt they had to abandon Jack for the fear that he might remember the abuse and incriminate them. But at such a young age, I don't think his memory would be that developed.

    I learned that most people's earliest memories, with rare exceptions begin at about age three. I think that the real Paul Fronczak's whereabouts, living or dead may never be known. The real Paul would have no recollection of the kidnapping and was probably raised by his kidnapper as her own kid, because she wanted a child of her own. The kidnapper could have made up a story about the mother abandoning Paul, or Paul may have been sold for money so that the kidnapper could maintain an illegal habit, say drug solicitation or prostitution.

    I don't think she killed Paul, but I don't think we will ever know, or even the kind of life that the real Paul had, or now has.

    A lot of these kids, abducted at say younger than three, would probably never know what happened to them, unless adopted circumstances, or communications in later years, prove that "These aren't my real parents." Just as Jack found out. However, a lot of people in those kinds of circumstances aren't going to do the investigative research that Jack did.

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    This news has literally left me speechless, with my family asking me what was wrong. I am astounded.

    As I previously may have posted, I worked in the special care nursery (NICU) at Michael Reese Hospital in the 80s. This is where the 'real' Paul was stolen from.

    So we are left with: What happened to the real Paul? And what happened to Jill?
    Six-year-old Shannon Sherrill disappeared from her front yard in Thorntown, Indiana in October, 1986. Someone knows where she is......

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