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    Germany - Maria H., 13, Freiburg, 3 May 2013 - w/ Bernhard Haase, 53

    A 53-year old electrician is being sought all over Europe after he took off with a thirteen year old girl he met in chatroom.

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    http://www.nw-news.de/owl/kreis_lipp..._Blomberg.html

    http://www.bild.de/news/inland/entfu...4478.bild.html

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    Well. Did she know how old he was? That's the most important thing to me. It is much more positive if she knew the age of the person she was going to meet, and what they looked like. At least that would indicate she may have gone with him willingly.

    If she thought she was going to meet a 15-year-old it seems it would be much more serious - an abduction maybe?

    I believe the legal age for sex in Italy is 13. It is a favored holiday destination with Germans in the south; easy to get too. No border checks.
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    I just thought I would try and translate those two articles and ich nicht verstehen! I don't understand them properly. My German is so bad. Help, fluent German speakers! Hilfen mir bitte!
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    Useful info about border checks in Europe - or lack of them.

    Schengen Area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Last edited by KateB; 04-08-2015 at 12:29 PM. Reason: repair url tag.
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    MP site in German
    https://www.facebook.com/deutschlandfindeteuch?filter=2

    This site seems to be dedicated to revealing fake fb profiles and has info about this case in German.
    http://www.mimikama.at/allgemein/kei...te-henselmann/
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    Translations - I summarize it, not word by word:

    http://www.nw-news.de/owl/kreis_lipp..._Blomberg.html

    - 13 y/o M H from Freiburg has been missing since May 4.

    - the girl is probably together with 53 y/o Bernhard Haase from Blomberg. They have an arrest warrant for Haase.

    - Haase is probably driving a grey Skoda with license plate LIP-VM-36. He probably has his white German Shepherd dog Simba with him.


    http://www.bild.de/news/inland/entfu...4478.bild.html (this is a tabloid)

    - They met in an Internet chatroom. They have been chatting since the beginning of 2012. Chats had an obvious sexual tone.

    - Interpol is looking for Haase because of sexual misconduct.

    - He is an electrician and used to have a prominent position in the political party "Die Republikaner" (The Republicans).

    - He is married but seperated, has 2 children. He "longed" for M.

    - His step daughter said that he openly admitted that he loved M. And that M told his family on the phone that she loved him too. They were not able to talk sense into her.

    - Police does not believe she was kidnapped, believe she went willingly with him. But they assume that sexual misconduct is taking place.

    - M's parents are very worried. They didn't know about her relationship to Haase. Father doesn't believe the "love" story, says M has a big heart and he believes that Haase told her some lies and she went with him to help him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zwiebel View Post
    MP site in German
    https://www.facebook.com/deutschlandfindeteuch?filter=2

    This site seems to be dedicated to revealing fake fb profiles and has info about this case in German.
    http://www.mimikama.at/allgemein/kei...te-henselmann/
    They say the same as in the articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zwiebel View Post
    Well. Did she know how old he was? That's the most important thing to me. It is much more positive if she knew the age of the person she was going to meet, and what they looked like. At least that would indicate she may have gone with him willingly.

    If she thought she was going to meet a 15-year-old it seems it would be much more serious - an abduction maybe?

    I believe the legal age for sex in Italy is 13. It is a favored holiday destination with Germans in the south; easy to get too. No border checks.
    Do you have any reason why you say Italy? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.

    She looks much older than 13 ... I was surprised.

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    I'm not a native German speaker but I'll try

    Not verbatim but the salient points:
    -She's 13, he's 53.
    -met in an internet chatroom
    -Bernhard Haase is an Informations-Elektriker
    -she's a school girl from Freiburg (Breisgau)
    -Interpol is searching for them Europe wide
    -he's suspected of sexual abuse
    -they've been chatting since the beginning of 2012, she told him of her problems at home
    -he's formerly held some kind of a position in a political party
    -he's a father of two, at the time he was still living with his wife in a village in Kreis Lippe
    -he left his wife and told his family that he loves Maria and his stepdaughter is saying that the girl told his family the same thing on the phone
    -the police says the chats had a sexual nature
    -they believe she left willingly with him
    -the parents are sick with worry and didn't know about the relationship
    http://www.bild.de/news/inland/entfu...4478.bild.html

    They may be in a gray Skoda LIP-VM 36 and he may have a white dog with him.
    -more than 2000 FB users have shared their photos but his picture is from 2010 and he might have changed since then
    http://www.bild.de/news/inland/vermi...3380.bild.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by zwiebel View Post
    If this information is still true she's too young in any European country.

    His car and license plate is known, I would think they will find them soon.

    I just hope he is not a violent type ...

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    Thank you for all those translations Donjeta and Elainera.

    I also think this young girl needs to be found quickly, although I am relieved she left willingly. I mentioned Italy because of the mention that they could be anywhere in Europe. Thinking about it though - as a married man I wonder what cash reserves he had? If he doesn't have a lot with him, he's going to have to work. There are plenty of native, unemployed Italian and Spanish people so his chances of getting work there would be limited. I wouldn't have thought his prospects would be much better in France either.

    He seems like he has had plenty of time to plan this, and as he openly told his family it gives me hope he doesn't intend any foul play. He seems to be deluding himself that he can somehow have a relationship with a child and it's okay.....

    If he has justified it to himself, maybe they haven't run away and left Germany at all. Maybe he's rented a little apartment somewhere in advance and intends to work under an assumed name. It would be very difficult in Germany but he could get away with it for a while I'd imagine, as a self-employed electrician.

    He may not have expected so much publicity though and that might spoil all his plans. That's a worry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elainera View Post
    Do you have any reason why you say Italy? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.

    She looks much older than 13 ... I was surprised.
    I agree. That might make it harder for people to recognise who she is, especially if she changes her hair drastically.
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    My dad lives in Germany, not too far from Freiburg. I'll forward this to him, as he has contact with a lot of people in his daily work.

    Hopefully they're searching in France, Austria, Liechtenstein, and Switzerland. Freiburg is particularly close to France and within easy driving distance of the others.
    always remembering

    Jacob Wetterling, missing from St. Joseph, Minnesota since October 22, 1989

    Jeanna North, missing from West Fargo, North Dakota since June 28, 1993

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    I can't read German, so I appreciate and thank those who posted the point forms of the information.
    I am wondering if there is any information regarding the questions below - I couldn't seem to find much else on the subject about the circumstances just prior to Maria's disappearance and how she disappeared:

    Is it confirmed that Maria-Brigitte Henselmann is with Bernhard Haase?
    Although the police say that Maria left willingly with him, Did Bernhard Haase go to meet Maria at her home town of Freiburg? Or did she travel to meet him somewhere?
    Were they both seen together after Maria was reported as Missing?
    What Model Skoda (vehicle) does Bernhard Haase own?

    The distance between Maria Henselmanns town of Freiburg and Bernhard Haase town of
    Blomberg is 550kms - about a 5hr15min drive directly.

    Map - distance between towns Blomberg - Freiburg, Germany.
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