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    Thumbs up Google hopes to wipe child porn from the web

    This. This right here gives me hope. It's not something Google has to do, but they know it is the right thing. They can save hundreds and possibly thousands of children.

    Google's plan is to build a database of child porn images that will let these groups (LE, tech companies,etc) swap information, collaborate, and remove the images from the Web.
    "Part of the technology behind this database comes from a technique Google already uses called "hashing," which tags images showing sexual abuse of children with a unique identification code. Computers can recognize the code and then locate, block, and report all duplicate images on the Web. Google plans to have the database up and running within a year."

    "Google also announced Saturday that it is donating $5 million to fight child pornography. The money will be split up between global child protection organizations like the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and the Internet Watch Foundation, and Google's own Child Protection Technology Fund."

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    Thanks for posting this....great news!


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    I love when mega multi billion dollar companies do stuff for the good of mankind... I've only ever used google as a search engine... And now I'll continue to only ever use them knowing that they plan to rid the web of child porn

    Yay google!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    This. This right here gives me hope. It's not something Google has to do, but they know it is the right thing. They can save hundreds and possibly thousands of children.

    Google's plan is to build a database of child porn images that will let these groups (LE, tech companies,etc) swap information, collaborate, and remove the images from the Web.
    "Part of the technology behind this database comes from a technique Google already uses called "hashing," which tags images showing sexual abuse of children with a unique identification code. Computers can recognize the code and then locate, block, and report all duplicate images on the Web. Google plans to have the database up and running within a year."

    "Google also announced Saturday that it is donating $5 million to fight child pornography. The money will be split up between global child protection organizations like the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and the Internet Watch Foundation, and Google's own Child Protection Technology Fund."

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-575...-from-the-web/
    I understand that this is supposed to be a good thing, but....this database of images...are the actual photos going to be shared or some associated identifying information that can be used to zap the images when found elsewhere? Ya'll help me out here, please. TIA!

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    This is AMAZING! Thank you Google!!!

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    15 or 20 years ago this may have been a great idea as back then most images and content WERE on websites.

    These days that is no longer the case, with peer to peer file sharing nobody with a brain would post images or other illegal content to a website (it is too easily to track it back to the owner). If someone wants cracked software or movies (or other not so legal content) they use software to access the shared files from hundreds of other private PCs anonymously.

    Sounds like good PR for Google! Now that 99.9% of child porn is NO LONGER on the "web" (i.e. actual websites) they can announce their great plan and take all of the credit for erradicating it! Sheesh they could come out with a study in a year showing that their plan has worked amazing well!
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    Atleast they are trying! Nothing will stop child endangerment, but don't make it easy!!!
    Everyone needs to help wipe out porn, drugs etc!
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    Quote Originally Posted by passionflower View Post
    Atleast they are trying! Nothing will stop child endangerment, but don't make it easy!!!
    Everyone needs to help wipe out porn, drugs etc!
    Google has had a LOT of really bad press the last year or so due to their horrid new "no privacy policy". Six European countries are currently filing charges/lawsuits against them.

    To me this token bs effort to "wipe CP from the web now 99% of it is already gone" sounds like spin to fool the masses.

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    I'm troubled by the idea of Google (or anyone other than LE) having a database of child porn images. I would think that since it is illegal to possess these images, having such a database would be a major legal liability for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toscaxyz View Post
    I'm troubled by the idea of Google (or anyone other than LE) having a database of child porn images. I would think that since it is illegal to possess these images, having such a database would be a major legal liability for them.
    I doubt if they are keeping the actual images, they are likely storing the hash codes and quite possibly getting that info from LE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by toscaxyz View Post
    I'm troubled by the idea of Google (or anyone other than LE) having a database of child porn images. I would think that since it is illegal to possess these images, having such a database would be a major legal liability for them.
    This.

    And I'm wanting to know who will have access to those images. IMO by having the database, the children depicted in those images are being victimized further each time someone has access to them. So while this is being touted as a "good thing," I'm not convinced this is the way to go about helping the problem. Not convinced at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonya610 View Post
    I doubt if they are keeping the actual images, they are likely storing the hash codes and quite possibly getting that info from LE.
    Thank you. That is what I was asking in my first post. But even still, can those codes not be used to replicate the images if they fall into nefarious hands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    "Google also announced Saturday that it is donating $5 million to fight child pornography. The money will be split up between global child protection organizations like the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and the Internet Watch Foundation, and Google's own Child Protection Technology Fund."

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-575...-from-the-web/
    Photos and videos of child pornography on the Web have multiplied at an alarming rate over the past few years. In 2011, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children said it received 17.3 million images and videos of suspected child abuse, which is four times more than 2007.
    I think they need to spend as much as is necessary to eradicate it as quickly and as thoroughly as possible. $5 million is a good start, but IMHO no where near enough.

    17.3 million images and videos - that is just unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by my_tee_mouse View Post
    Thank you. That is what I was asking in my first post. But even still, can those codes not be used to replicate the images if they fall into nefarious hands?
    No the codes can't replicate the image. The codes identify the file and the changes made to it which means if the same hash code appeared in 100 places on the web it would be obvious it was in fact the same image.

    In crude terms if you created a pick called happy_face_234nmz934.jpg and uploaded that pic to several different websites (using the same file name) and folks put that file name in a search engine they would get results saying it was found on the following websites. You couldn't use the file name to "reproduce" the image BUT it would help you find the same image on the web. Hash codes are more sophisticated but it is still the same idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonya610 View Post
    No the codes can't replicate the image. The codes identify the file and the changes made to it which means if the same hash code appeared in 100 places on the web it would be obvious it was in fact the same image.

    In crude terms if you created a pick called happy_face_234nmz934.jpg and uploaded that pic to several different websites (using the same file name) then folks could google the file name and find the pic on various websites. You couldn't use the file name to "reproduce" the image BUT it would help you find the same image on the web. Hash codes are more sophisticated but it is still the same idea.
    Thank you! That makes me feel much better about this effort. So yeah, put me in the track-down-those-codes-and-zap-'em column!

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