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View Poll Results: If police would have interviewed the Ramsey's separately one day one/case solved ?

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  • Yes,they would have solved it pretty quickly

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    Solved or not?

    I started this poll outta frustration (even if I kinda guess what the result will be....)
    I am pretty sure that this would have been a pretty easy case to solve if done by the book
    The rice is already cooked...

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    Couldn't they have both still used their lawyers to not talk to LE?

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    They probably would have and they did refuse (even if they put a different spin on it)...I guess I was thinking of "act like a real innocent person and sit down with LE" ...lots of guilty people take the chance,makes them look better...my feeling is one of them would have cracked if taken by surprise by some smart good questions (and I mean those first days,not after having the chance to rehearse with the lawyers)
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    IF everything would have been done by the book the Ramseys would never have laid their eyes on the questions LE was preparing for them,right?
    If people in the DA office wouldn't have been friends with the suspects the interviews would have had a different format,no?
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    8 MR. WOOD: I understand it, Mr.

    9 Kane. Now listen to me.

    10 I was asked, and my clients

    11 agreed to answer new questions about

    12 information that has been obtained since June

    13 of 1998 after three full days of interviews

    14 which had been followed by April of 1997 in

    15 almost a full day of an interview by Patsy

    16 Ramsey, new questions about new information

    17 since June of 1998 or developments that have

    18 come up since June of 1998.

    19 That was the request made by

    20 Chief Beckner. That was what we agreed to

    21 do because that is what we were asked to do.

    22 Now, if you want to change the

    23 format, then let's consider that after we

    24 finish this format. But I didn't ask Patsy

    25 Ramsey or John Ramsey to go back and study

    0102

    1 what they had said before to try to memorize

    2 it or refresh their recollections,
    period,

    3 because it was represented to me that you

    4 weren't going to do that.

    5 So if you do it, I am not really

    6 directing her not to answer it. I am

    7 directing you that you are outside of the

    8 scope of your request and, therefore, your

    9 question is not fair and appropriate. It is

    10 as simple as that. I am not trying to be

    11 difficult.



    why do you need to go back and study/memorize statements if you are telling the truth?it's done only when you're lying DUH
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    Quote Originally Posted by madeleine View Post
    IF everything would have been done by the book the Ramseys would never have laid their eyes on the questions LE was preparing for them,right?


    If people in the DA office wouldn't have been friends with the suspects the interviews would have had a different format,no?


    No. The Ramseys were under no obligation to talk to the police, ever. They could set limits and conditions on any interviews, and the police could take it or leave it. The Ramseys were well advised by their legal team, and exercised their rights very intelligently.

    The police are used to having their way, but the Ramseys weren't going to go along with anything that didn't suit them, and they didn't have to.

    It didn't hurt that they had a friendly DA's office, but even with a hostile DA's office the Rs could have done exactly the same thing.
    I'm just playing detective here. I have no idea who killed JonBenet. It's just an opinion.

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    Standard police procedure, I believe, is to ask delicately to come down to police station for separate interviews immediately after the body is found. This not only disallows parents from getting their story straightened out if guilty but also allows parents to record their thoughts while the happenings are still fresh in their memory. If they refused to do this it is a definite red flag. Unfortunately LE did not ask them to do this.

    It certainly could have helped this case get solved even if they were just asked and they refused. You think things look suspicious now, imagine their dead daughter at their feet just discovered, and they refuse to help police. They couldn't use the 'LE bad treatment' excuse at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrishope View Post
    No. The Ramseys were under no obligation to talk to the police, ever. They could set limits and conditions on any interviews, and the police could take it or leave it. The Ramseys were well advised by their legal team, and exercised their rights very intelligently.

    The police are used to having their way, but the Ramseys weren't going to go along with anything that didn't suit them, and they didn't have to.

    It didn't hurt that they had a friendly DA's office, but even with a hostile DA's office the Rs could have done exactly the same thing.
    Just to elaborate on that: Chrishope is quite correct. The US Constitution clearly states that a suspect can refuse to cooperate with police for any reason. And that's where the problem begins in this case, I think, in this way: if you don't want to talk to the cops, that's fine. No one can force you to do so. But don't refuse, then turn right around and publicly claim that you cooperated fully.

    As Wendy Murphy said so eloquently, you have a right to keep silent. You DON'T have a right to lie.
    I'm as mad as HELL and I'm NOT gonna take it anymore!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douce40 View Post
    Standard police procedure, I believe, is to ask delicately to come down to police station for separate interviews immediately after the body is found. This not only disallows parents from getting their story straightened out if guilty but also allows parents to record their thoughts while the happenings are still fresh in their memory. If they refused to do this it is a definite red flag. Unfortunately LE did not ask them to do this.

    It certainly could have helped this case get solved even if they were just asked and they refused. You think things look suspicious now, imagine their dead daughter at their feet just discovered, and they refuse to help police. They couldn't use the 'LE bad treatment' excuse at that point.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douce40 View Post
    Standard police procedure, I believe, is to ask delicately to come down to police station for separate interviews immediately after the body is found. This not only disallows parents from getting their story straightened out if guilty but also allows parents to record their thoughts while the happenings are still fresh in their memory. If they refused to do this it is a definite red flag. Unfortunately LE did not ask them to do this.

    It certainly could have helped this case get solved even if they were just asked and they refused. You think things look suspicious now, imagine their dead daughter at their feet just discovered, and they refuse to help police. They couldn't use the 'LE bad treatment' excuse at that point.
    There is this thing about JR that p!@#$ me off....he suggests that it was Bynum who told him straight away that they need a lawyer because the cops are targeting them....and he (conveniently) accepted (excuse) because he was such a mess and so confused and it was better to let someone else take care of it....

    but
    did Bynum smell that something's not right when he said that or did he just know that usually parents are investigated first( just being cautious) ?

    anyway,there is a chapter in Kolar's book in which he outlines all JR's contradicting statements re lawyering up...thanks for that

    it's their priorities that bother me....which were trying to get out of town and refusing to cooperate...not the fact that they hired lawyers....it's how it was done,when and all the rest
    The rice is already cooked...


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    For a long time I felt that PR would have cracked if pushed....I think I changed my mind...it's JR that always got aggressive when he felt "insulted" by key questions...it's risky when you lose your temper,especially when you're a narcissist and a control freak
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    Quote Originally Posted by madeleine View Post
    For a long time I felt that PR would have cracked if pushed....I think I changed my mind...it's JR that always got aggressive when he felt "insulted" by key questions...it's risky when you lose your temper,especially when you're a narcissist and a control freak
    madeleine,
    I think this is what ST thought also. Yet she never, and she had some answers, but not for the size-12's, and everyone and their dog, including the DocG theorists know that if there is one person who should know what underwear JonBenet was wearing it should be PR, after all she made the very public point of telling everyone that Nedra Paugh chaperoned JonBenet when she was absent, i.e. problem, what problem?

    So if DocG is correct just why is PR backing JR up, and not telling us what she underwear she dressed JonBenet in prior to the White's Christmas party.

    Simples is it not?

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    I think that PR could be quite a "drama queen" herself. My opinion is still that both parents staged the scene and covered for BR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlene733510 View Post
    I think that PR could be quite a "drama queen" herself. My opinion is still that both parents staged the scene and covered for BR.
    Darlene733510,
    And I might think you are correct, JDI alone, does not explain away all the evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKGuy View Post
    Darlene733510,
    And I might think you are correct, JDI alone, does not explain away all the evidence.

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    Specifically, what does it not explain?

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