George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin General discussion #4

Originally Posted by Linda7NJ
Guess it depends where you teach.

I've been to schools where a few of the English teachers talk just like this witness.

It has nothing to do with standards and everything to do with reality.

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Just K said:

Yes, I have such mixed opinions as to Rachel. She was an immature 18 yo (HS Sophomore) at the time of TM's death. He was her friend, she didn't want to see him lying there dead, she felt guilty for "being the last one to talk to him," she didn't want to see his parents crying, etc. She obviously has a long standing issue with people understanding her speech... for the slang, her colloquialisms, her sentence structure, inability to relate things in chronological order and finally the manner in which she lets words trail off into a murmur.

I realize she is traumatized but she has been very short with her response to questioning. Partly, IMO, this is due to her background. She doesn't seem to get that as a young adult (even though she is a 19 yo Junior in HS) that she is expected to act differently in different situations. I actually feel empathy for her on so many issues. BUT, her manner probably does more harm than good.

With that said, even though she lied in order to avoid being involved, initially, I do believe her about her recounting of the events of that night. Her story has remained 90+ % the same from day one. She also has difficulty repeating or answering questions, with the exact same words, when she is asked to repeat her answer.

I just hope that the jury will see that her recounting has the ring of truth.

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Tricia said:

Dear Websleuths Members,

We are going to try opening one thread for the trial of George Zimmerman.

Discussions became so heated and hateful that we closed the whole Martin/Zimmerman discussion until the trial started.

If things get out of hand again we will close this thread.

Just because someone might think George Zimmerman is innocent does not make them a racist.

Just because someone thinks Trayvon Martin was killed in cold blood does not make them a racist.

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Just K said:

Yes, I have such mixed opinions as to Rachel. She was an immature 18 yo (HS Sophomore) at the time of TM's death. He was her friend, she didn't want to see him lying there dead, she felt guilty for "being the last one to talk to him," she didn't want to see his parents crying, etc. She obviously has a long standing issue with people understanding her speech... for the slang, her colloquialisms, her sentence structure, inability to relate things in chronological order and finally the manner in which she lets words trail off into a murmur.

I realize she is traumatized but she has been very short with her response to questioning. Partly, IMO, this is due to her background. She doesn't seem to get that as a young adult (even though she is a 19 yo Junior in HS) that she is expected to act differently in different situations. I actually feel empathy for her on so many issues. BUT, her manner probably does more harm than good.

With that said, even though she lied in order to avoid being involved, initially, I do believe her about her recounting of the events of that night. Her story has remained 90+ % the same from day one. She also has difficulty repeating or answering questions, with the exact same words, when she is asked to repeat her answer.

I just hope that the jury will see that her recounting has the ring of truth.

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iluvmua said:

Does anybody know where her depo with Bernie can be found?

It is really hard to find earlier documents.

TY

Depo with Bernie says a lot.

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morrow68 said:

Quick question. I did some reading last night, but found myself very confused(not unusual). For manslaughter to be on the table, does both the defense and prosecution have to agree to it? Or does the judge just decide? Sorry if I'm confusing anyone and if it's a dumb question, this is just the first trial I've really followed and I really didn't get that part.

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Just K said:

Yes, I have such mixed opinions as to Rachel. She was an immature 18 yo (HS Sophomore) at the time of TM's death. He was her friend, she didn't want to see him lying there dead, she felt guilty for "being the last one to talk to him," she didn't want to see his parents crying, etc. She obviously has a long standing issue with people understanding her speech... for the slang, her colloquialisms, her sentence structure, inability to relate things in chronological order and finally the manner in which she lets words trail off into a murmur.

I realize she is traumatized but she has been very short with her response to questioning. Partly, IMO, this is due to her background. She doesn't seem to get that as a young adult (even though she is a 19 yo Junior in HS) that she is expected to act differently in different situations. I actually feel empathy for her on so many issues. BUT, her manner probably does more harm than good.

With that said, even though she lied in order to avoid being involved, initially, I do believe her about her recounting of the events of that night. Her story has remained 90+ % the same from day one. She also has difficulty repeating or answering questions, with the exact same words, when she is asked to repeat her answer.

I just hope that the jury will see that her recounting has the ring of truth.

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