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    George Zimmerman Real Time Trial Thread *No Discussion* 7/1/2013

    Dear Webseuths Members,

    We know many of you want to discuss the facts of the case and as long as the discussion is civil you may discuss the case in general in this link below:

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213157"]George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin General discussion - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


    This thread is for REAL TIME COURTROOM updates.

    If those of you watching could please update this thread as much as possible it will be greatly appreciated by those unable to watch the trial while at work.

    Thank you for your patience and understanding.

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    Good Morning All.

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    Love your True Crime radio shows. Very informative.

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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 38m
    We were just informed that attys have settled their issues that were going to be out hashed at 830 hearing. Testimony starts at 9.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
    Testimony to Begin in Week 2 of Zimmerman Trial http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/t...trial-19540456 … #trayvonmartin

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 17h
    CNN, HLN televising dueling #Zimmerman trial shows (from @AP) http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/con...tguid=HXkJnbsM

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 29 Jun
    5 key moments from first week of Zimmerman trial: http://news.yahoo.com/5-key-moments-...174853596.html … (from @mikeschneiderAP)


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    Natalie Tolomeo ‏@NatalieTolomeo 2m
    Dr. Hirotaka Nakasone is the state's 23rd witness called to testify. #Zimmerman #GeorgeZimemrman #Trayvon #TrayvonMartin
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4m
    That testimony Nakasone prev gave was at a pretrial hearing.

    Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 6m
    Nakasone said it's not possible to determine who is screaming on the 911 call that recorded screams and the fatal shot.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5m
    State witness Hirotaka Nakasone called to stand. He is an FBI voice analyst. Attys at sidebar.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 11m
    We are back in session. #zimmermantrial

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says the cellphone distorts the human voice and the FBI won't analyze it for that reason. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says sceaming must be removed from voice sample and you need at least 30 seconds. Ten seconds is not enough. #Zimmermanon9

    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 49s
    Def used Nakasone's opinion that screamer couldn't be deter to help get state experts who said it was poss disallowed pretrial.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
    Def atty West as state asks judge to qualify Nakasone as expert: [asks if there are any objections to his qualifications] "Absolutely not. We encourage the court to."

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4m
    Juror B51, an unmarried woman in her 60s, assumes her normal posture leaned fwd in her chair. #zimmerman #trayvonmartin

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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 3m
    Jurors taking sporadic notes during first real scientific testimony of the trial. #zimmerman.

    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1m
    Nakasone is now telling jurors about analysis he did on 911 call in this case. 45 sec segment of call he listened to. Screams < 3 sec

    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says human listening can be another option. Both families are saying it was their loved one. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    The state wanted to call 2 other experts to testify it was not #Zimmermanon9's voice screaming for help but the judge ruled that 1/2

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Their methods were not scientifically sound. One looped the screaming to trick the machine. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says 2.53 seconds is not fit for voice comparison and says the distance from the phone and echo distorted it. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says there was only 2.53 seconds of isolated screaming that wasn't overlapped with other voices. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1m
    Nakasone: "Guessing age (on a recording) is a little complicated." #Zimmerman

    [Voice of person usually does not get established until about age 20]


    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says stress raises pitch for example pilots before a crash and people on rollercoasters. #Zimmermanon9


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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says age is very complicated to guess under the best of conditions. A 55-year-old can sound like a teenager. #Zimmermanon9


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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    He says puberty also affects pitch even without screaming. Usually the voice change is complete at the age of 20. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says sometimes you can recognize the voice just by listening either in person or recorded. #Zimmermanon9

    [familiar voice, such as mother, can usually recognize in 2 words]

    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says it would be difficult for him to compare two voices unfamiliar to him by listening. #Zimmermanon9

    Direct by Mantei over....cross by West begins

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    Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
    Mantei: Familiar-voice ID more reliable with audio in this case? Nakasone agrees. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
    Nakasone says being familiar with a person's voice helps to be better able to ID. Likely sets up #trayvonmartin mother saying its him.

    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1m
    Prosecutor hands off Nakasone for defense cross exam by Don West.

    In response to West question:
    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says even with familiar voices you have to know the voice under similar circumstances. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Defense is cross examining Dr. Nakasone. The defense called him as their witness in the hearing to prevent other 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    State experts from testifying. An unusual situation. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

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    Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
    FWIW: Twitter reporter/lawyer consensus seems to be state called Nakasone to preview/bolster upcoming testimony by #TrayvonMartin's mother.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 3m
    West hammers Nakasone's creds and that its his expert opinion that tech 4 deter ID from screams on a recording not yet possible

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    The jury is paying close attention as he talks about how complicated voice recognition is and is done by team. #Zimmermanon9
    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV

    Dr. Nakasone says listener bias can affect what the listeners believe they are hearing. Group sessions are not tolerated. #Zimmermanon9

    Wests asks him a question about bias, objection, sustained. West wants to make the doctor his witness, judges denies, same objection could be made.

    Bill S....West does not like that state called his witness and has made him a state witness....Dr. said the best voice ID can be made with someone who has known the person their whole life.

    West asks for sidebar, says he has a constitutional objection.


    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 3m
    Prosecution has objected twice to defense trying to ask questions it says are beyond his expertise. Attys at bench now.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5m
    Though they're not supposed to give atty objections any weight, these jurors always seem intrigued when one arises. #zimmerman

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    Dr. Nakasone testimony at Frye Hearing during which he said HE thought person on bottom, he says was GZ, was screaming 'Help'

    http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news...g_today_b.html

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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
    Sidebar over. Testimony continues. Objection was overruled.

    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone says he would tell law enforcement not to do that. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Dr. Nakasone told the jury a group session will increase the possibility of infecting the reliability of the identification. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    The judge is going to allow the defense to ask more questions. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Martin's father listened to the screaming two days after the shooting. The police report said he lowered his head and 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    Said it was not Martin screaming. He changed his mind during that highly unorthodox group session. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    The defense again is trying to turn a state witness into a defense witness. Judge is deciding at the bench. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    The jury heard the objections and the FBI expert's answers but the defense wants the jury to hear even more about this. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    The defense is working to dismantle the way the Martin family identified his voice as the one screaming for help. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    The defense asked another question about group listening and Dr.Nakasone said it's not recommended before the state objected. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    The state objected it was sustained and defense then wanted to call the FBI expert as its own witness on the spot. #Zimmermanon9

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    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    The city of Sanford had the Martin family listen to the 911 call without law enforcement as a group. #Zimmermanon9

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