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    IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #33

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    "Our hearts and prayers go out to the families and friends of those precious little girls. The Black Hawk County Sheriff's Office pledges vigilance in our pursuit of those responsible and will extend every resource to concluding this case so that justice may prevail."
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    http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/eva...9bb2963f4.html
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    IA-Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 *Media/Maps/TmLne* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikb View Post
    White vehicle, maybe?

    Not that we didn't hear about one before but this does seem somewhat new? It seems more definite to me now than it did before. IMO.
    It sounds like the a very specific white vehicle:

    "Smock said the SUV sightings are different from reports of a white vehicle tied to an attempted abduction in Cedar Rapids. In that case, the vehicle was described as a white van.

    “This is an SUV, a large SUV,” Smock said. “It has been described as an older model Chevy Suburban, — but we don’t know that for sure — boxy and definitely full sized.”

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    That sounds like a pretty specific description. Hopefully it jogs people's memories. Just wish it could have been reported earlier...maybe would have the opportunity for more leads if the vehicle was fresh in people's minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threecrazykids View Post
    That sounds like a pretty specific description. Hopefully it jogs people's memories. Just wish it could have been reported earlier...maybe would have the opportunity for more leads if the vehicle was fresh in people's minds.
    totally agree, why on earth this took almost a year to get to the public is beyond me...these vehicles are not sitting on every corner like a ford taurus.
    This would have "rang a bell with someone" last summer.

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    Wondering if details about a white van or suv are now released because new cctv video has been discovered or existing video has been sufficiently enhanced.

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    This vehicle has a large interior, one that would be useful for those who camp, hunt, fish or for a multitude of businesses, i.e. painter, window washer, steam cleaners, home renovations. The list is endless. This model of truck would also work well as a delivery truck, i.e. florist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roseofsharon View Post
    This vehicle has a large interior, one that would be useful for those who camp, hunt, fish or for a multitude of businesses, i.e. painter, window washer, steam cleaners, home renovations. The list is endless. This model of truck would also work well as a delivery truck, i.e. florist.
    Possibly useful for persons with wheelchair in back or garden companies.
    Thinking of the dry hot weather at the time of the abduction and large trucks that deliver watering services for gardens and public trees...

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    I don't think LE is bumbling per se. But they certainly do give the appearance of it at times. LE may have its reasons for just now releasing this info about the white SUV sightings and asking people if they remember seeing such a vehicle, but the appearance that LE has just now collated the sighting reports from last year doesn't do much to fight the impression that LE is in fact bumbling and grasping at straws.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukiyama View Post
    I don't think LE is bumbling per se. But they certainly do give the appearance of it at times. LE may have its reasons for just now releasing this info about the white SUV sightings and asking people if they remember seeing such a vehicle, but the appearance that LE has just now collated the sighting reports from last year doesn't do much to fight the impression that LE is in fact bumbling and grasping at straws.
    Cant be that many vans like that running around. Sort by type and make, run names, and see if somebody pops up with a record. Of course somebody has to spend the time doing that who has access to records. The modern equivalent of foot work. The FBI has the software to do searches like this if the State of Iowa doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roseofsharon View Post
    This vehicle has a large interior, one that would be useful for those who camp, hunt, fish or for a multitude of businesses, i.e. painter, window washer, steam cleaners, home renovations. The list is endless. This model of truck would also work well as a delivery truck, i.e. florist.
    hmmm... would a cabinet maker have such a vehicle?
    just trying to make sense out of all of this

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    Again, it may not be a matter of finding the van, our even knowing who the van belongs to. They might just be wanting to place a particular van at the scene. Suppose that MK or another yet unnamed suspect had such a van at the time, and its whereabouts now are unknown?

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    Could the white SUV type vechicle have been a "delivery" vechicle? Does anyone remember a scheduled delivery arriving late on July 13, 2012?

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    Lately, I have been paying attention to various white vans - they were owned/operated by personnel of schools/colleges, federal agencies, law enforcement, plumbers, and a carpet/flooring crew just to name a few. Then I realized that most of these professions and the likes I saw were models newer than the 90s.
    I then focused my attention to older ones on the road and have not seen any in the past week. An older van should stick out like a sore thumb and the Evansdale/Waterloo community needs to keep their eyes open and be diligent in their surroundings.
    just trying to make sense out of all of this

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