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    TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #2

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    TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw Timeline and Media Links *NO DISCUSSION*
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    Just chiming in on the supervision thing. I am in no way suggesting anything about the parents or other adults being involved-I just don't know enough yet. Jmo, but I don't get any hinky vibe from the dad during his brief appearance on camera.

    That said, if the timeline is as wide open as it seems to be, that concerns me. Everybody parents differently, but six is pretty small to have run of the neighborhood. My kids are eight and a half and almost seven. We live in a very safe neighborhood, know most of our neighbors in a two block radius, and live across the street from the park. My six year old is allowed to play "on the block", but I am checking every ten or fifteen minutes to ensure she is still in site. Neither one of them are allowed to knock on a friends door or go into anyone's house without telling me their plan first--no matter how well we know that person.

    As a single mom, I struggle with supervision vs freedom. I have things to do-they want to play. If I want to get groceries put away or start dinner or stare at the wall for ten minutes, yes they can play. They have both learned the hard way that they absolutely need to be where we agreed. I don't let them go to the park across the street unsupervised-unless I'm working in the front yard where I can see them-I feel there's just too much going on there for them to be unsupervised at this age.

    My eight and a half year old was allowed to walk to the library four blocks away for the first time yesterday. He has to cross one busy street with the light. First run, I let him walk, stay for half and hour, then I picked him up. We're all still alive . Next run, he will get his books and walk home by himself. I allowed him this freedom because he has a good head on his shoulders and I feel I have taught him what he needs to know.

    Imo, kids have to have a certain amount of measured freedom--it's how their brain grows. But, if its true that this girl at five or six years old is allowed to be unsupervised for that many hours, that greatly concerns me.

    It's easy to think sometimes, after spending so much time on this site, that there is horror around every corner, but it's just not true. At the same time, an adequate amount of supervision for a child-measured in terms of their developmental capacity-is absolutely necessary.

    This poor child was dumped on the side of the road like a piece of garbage. It makes me want to scream. I hope they catch the monster who did this straight away.

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    Bringing this over from the other thread. Thank you, Wondergirl!
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    1st Presser - Wednesday, July 3, 2013 apx. 4:15 pm CST

    Public Information Officer for Saginaw Police (Damian )

    -This is a child homicide

    -He has some news to pass on, and is looking to get some assistance

    -2 Tip Lines have been established specifically to keep the communication lines open with tipsters, 24 hours a day/7 days a week:

    1-682-888-3682

    1-682-888-3684


    -LE has received very good leads pertaining to the red truck. They are looking for ANY information about the incident, NOT just about the red truck

    -Saginaw LE is getting assistance from the FBI, North Texas Major Case Investigative Team comprised of various specialists for cases like these (Metroplex)

    -Victim is officially identified as Alanna Gallagher; 6 years old of 641 Babbling Brook Drive

    - This is a disturbing case

    -LE will continue to work through the night as they have since the beginning

    -Handing out a photo of Alanna

    -A Reward of up to $10,000 has been issued by the FBI for info leading to the ID/Arrest/Conviction for Alanna's murderer

    -At this time LE sends prayers to the family, they are very distraught, getting counselling at the police station

    -Family has been at the police department talking to counselors

    -Family is not suspected at this time

    -ME is still doing their investigation which includes toxicology, just like any other case

    Q & A:

    Q: Did she fall or was she left at intersection?

    A: Don't know

    Q: ?

    A: LE is frustrated as they have to go through certain procedures, and they must do it right the first time, so that takes time

    Q: ?

    A: Being investigated as a homicide

    Q: Question about the 2nd man in the home

    A: (didn't really answer)

    Q: Alot of neighbours have commented about Alanna wandering around by herself for hours at a time. Will there be charges to the family for neglect?

    A: Starting at the first stage, it doesn't have any bearing on the child's death

    Q: ?

    A: You are perfectly safe in Saginaw, we don't have crimes like this very often, it's an isolated incident

    Q: What time was the child reported missing at?

    A: Around 9 pm

    Q: Who was the last family member to see the child?

    A: Don't know, still trying to ascertain that

    Q: What time did the family start looking for Alanna?

    A: (No comment on that)

    Q: A neighbour told us that Alanna's father knocked on his door at 9:15 pm. Alanna's father told him that he had been looking for Alanna since 5 pm.

    A: (no comment)

    Q: Is there any correlation to any other missing person cases?

    A: No correlation, isolated incident, we believe

    Q: Can we assume she was abducted?

    A: We don't know. We are trying to determine:

    1. COD

    2. Who seen Alanna last

    3. What happened

    We still have alot to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hejlena View Post
    Just chiming in on the supervision thing. I am in no way suggesting anything about the parents or other adults being involved-I just don't know enough yet. Jmo, but I don't get any hinky vibe from the dad during his brief appearance on camera.

    That said, if the timeline is as wide open as it seems to be, that concerns me. Everybody parents differently, but six is pretty small to have run of the neighborhood. My kids are eight and a half and almost seven. We live in a very safe neighborhood, know most of our neighbors in a two block radius, and live across the street from the park. My six year old is allowed to play "on the block", but I am checking every ten or fifteen minutes to ensure she is still in site. Neither one of them are allowed to knock on a friends door or go into anyone's house without telling me their plan first--no matter how well we know that person.

    As a single mom, I struggle with supervision vs freedom. I have things to do-they want to play. If I want to get groceries put away or start dinner or stare at the wall for ten minutes, yes they can play. They have both learned the hard way that they absolutely need to be where we agreed. I don't let them go to the park across the street unsupervised-unless I'm working in the front yard where I can see them-I feel there's just too much going on there for them to be unsupervised at this age.

    My eight and a half year old was allowed to walk to the library four blocks away for the first time yesterday. He has to cross one busy street with the light. First run, I let him walk, stay for half and hour, then I picked him up. We're all still alive . Next run, he will get his books and walk home by himself. I allowed him this freedom because he has a good head on his shoulders and I feel I have taught him what he needs to know.

    Imo, kids have to have a certain amount of measured freedom--it's how their brain grows. But, if its true that this girl at five or six years old is allowed to be unsupervised for that many hours, that greatly concerns me.

    It's easy to think sometimes, after spending so much time on this site, that there is horror around every corner, but it's just not true. At the same time, an adequate amount of supervision for a child-measured in terms of their developmental capacity-is absolutely necessary.

    This poor child was dumped on the side of the road like a piece of garbage. It makes me want to scream. I hope they catch the monster who did this straight away.
    Supervision comes with heartfelt concern and common sense.

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    I don't think there has been any information released to ascertain how long she had been missing or exactly how long the parents had been looking for her, for me to make any assumptions.

    Where and who is the perp?

    I was thinking about the red tape and if the parents used red tape for any specific purpose in their activities. Could someone else associated with those activities be responsible?

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    Rest in Peace, pretty girl.


    Alanna Gallagher

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    Tarp
    Tape
    Mention of a belt by 911 caller
    Trash bag
    Walmart bag
    Bindings on hands and feet

    Let's hope there is enough forensic material on these items to catch a monster

    My heart goes out to this baby girl's family, her community, and to the children who will not be able to unsee what they saw when they found her.

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    Would LE bring in tracking dogs to track her movements that day?

    Also, is it common for LE to leave a search warrant receipt so visible in the car where anyone could read it like that? Seems like either a rookie mistake or a purposeful move on the part of LE.

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    Saginaw PD believe girl's murder is "isolated case"
    Wednesday afternoon, the Tarrant County Medical Examiner identified the girl as Alanna Gallagher, who was reported missing Monday evening. She turned six last month. Her cause of death has still not been made public.

    On Wednesday, an FBI receipt viewed by WFAA revealed investigators confiscated plastic bags, various colored tapes and tarp to help the probe into Gallagher's death.
    A partial list of items taken included:
    • Walmart plastic bags
    • Charmin Ultra Soft pack
    • Blue/Gray tarp
    • Red, White, Camouflage tape
    • Electrical tape
    • Citizens Academy card
    • Copy of Social Security card
    Update: Authorities offer $10K reward for information in murder of 6 year-old Saginaw girl
    by Scott Goldstein, Dallas News4:40 pm, July 3, 2013
    Update at 4:40 p.m.
    : Authorities have no suspects and are offering up to $10,000 for information in the slaying of a 6-year-old girl found bound and wrapped in tarp on a Saginaw street this week.
    Body of murdered Saginaw girl identified as 6-year-old Alanna Gallagher
    by Arezow Doost
    July 3, 2013, 4:16 pm
    Alanna’s body was found bound with red tape more than a mile from her home. FBI agents left the list of items taken from the family car clearly visible through the window.

    The girl was often seen playing unsupervised outside, according to neighbors. The superintendent of the Eagle Mountain-Saginaw ISD released a statement describing Alanna as bubbly and always happy. She was a kindergarten student at Willow Creek Elementary.
    Much more at the link with video of Karl Gallagher's statement.
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    Cool

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    I'm wondering why the FBI focused on just that car. (Or was it the only one the media happened to see the warrant for?)

    I'm wondering, in any case, if it was perhaps the one parked on the street, and if it was left unlocked. Could the perp have gotten items from the car? Doesn't seem likely in broad daylight. Maybe the night before? Maybe the perp had been watching her since she was known to play alone outside?
    “Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things.” -- Terry Pratchett

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    OT AE I love the quote in your signature. Very important words, plainly stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArianeEmory View Post
    I'm wondering why the FBI focused on just that car. (Or was it the only one the media happened to see the warrant for?)

    I'm wondering, in any case, if it was perhaps the one parked on the street, and if it was left unlocked. Could the perp have gotten items from the car? Doesn't seem likely in broad daylight. Maybe the night before? Maybe the perp had been watching her since she was known to play alone outside?
    Who lets their child play outside alone anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hejlena View Post
    OT AE I love the quote in your signature. Very important words, plainly stated.
    Thank you. I think it's important to approach these cases as dispassionately as possible if you really want to understand them--emotion clouds judgement, and these crimes push everyone's buttons in all kinds of ways. I myself am definitely over-involved in this one. :/
    “Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things.” -- Terry Pratchett

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donamena View Post
    Who lets their child play outside alone anymore?
    I'm not a parent, so I won't get involved in the referendum on good vs. bad parenting. I assume no one is suggesting the family deserved this to happen. I recall similar criticism about Jessica Ridgeway's mom letting her daughter walk alone to school.
    “Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things.” -- Terry Pratchett

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