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  1. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Littleone48 View Post
    I just wanted to say thank you to those who are updating this thread~ This is the only one I follow for the trial. You guys are doing a great job!
    Ditto...many thanks to those providing updates since the trial started!

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    The Judge has excused the Jury while they do something in the courtroom. The Seal is up, so I don't know what is going on. 15 minute recess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.b.nora View Post
    There was a morning session but for some time there was no thread available and Reader who has been doing the reports is not reporting today, possibly due to a 14 hour trial day yesterday. The trial doings went until 10:00 PM edt yesterday.
    Thanks so much for your help today, i.b.nora!

    Yes, I did watch the entire session until the end last night and had some things to post but then there was no thread this morning, so I posted some articles about it. Then I had an internet interruption until recently.

    It was amazing...Don West was still talking after the judge had said it was after 10pm and she was calling a recess, and walked out.

    I'm hoping this thread will remain open for a while yet and I will try to post some of the most important tweets.

    Thanks everyone for your patience.
    Last edited by Reader; 07-10-2013 at 06:42 PM.


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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4h
    Judge is dismissing the jury for a lunch out somewhere she says.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4h
    Root: "I think you're not going to be involved in a conflictive this without it being dynamic." #zimmerman

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4h
    Back row of jurors again stand, this time for O'Mara demonstration with the dummy/mannequin

    Local 10 Zimmerman Local 10 Zimmerman ‏@WPLGZimmerman 4h
    Defense attorney Mar O'Mara asks witness Dennis Root if concrete could be used as weapon. Root: Ye
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4h
    Guy is done with cross. O'Mara up for redirect. Asks prosecution if he can use "doll" Guy used.

    bob kealing bob kealing ‏@bobkealing 4h
    Root: no weapon used on defendant. Contradicts defense position TM "armed himself with concrete."
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4h
    Attorneys at sidebar.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4h
    Root says there are things he would have done differently in #zimmerman situation. But says options are up to individual. #zimmerman

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4h
    Several jurors note that Root didn't get a post-sunset view of lighting conditions of shooting scene. #zimmerman

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5h
    Root acknowledges that #trayvonmartin may have been backing up off #zimmerman when he was shot. Root says various angles possible

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5h
    Back row of jurors stood to look for John Guy's demonstration of #trayvonmartin purported straddle of #zimmerman

    Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5h
    Root: Didn't ask if #GeorgeZimmerman got blood in eyes, or if tried to hit #TrayvonMartin. GZ didn't say what he was doing with his hands.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5h
    Root on his talks with #zimmerman: "I didn't spend a lot of time asking him a lot of things."

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5h
    Root on #zimmerman flashlight being an impact weapon potentially: "This most certainly could be used in that fashion." #zimmerman

    Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5h
    Root on #TrayvonMartin's phone: "I didn't see the weight that it had" in evaluating #GeorgeZimmerman's use of force. #ZimmermanTrial
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

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    BACK on Camera Discussion in Court 4:25 PM eat

    Judge, Mr Mantei

    Mantei: Calling this witness to impeach Mr Root.

    O'Mara: If its impeachment, it has to impeach something. Or effect the issue of bias.

    Judge: Pollock will not come back into the courtroom

    Judge: Who is next witness? What is the purpose of calling Mr Lee?

    Mantei: Judge, on balance, the State is not going to call Mr Lee.

    Mr Fleischmann your Honor. He is an agent with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco who arrested George. Purpose, the Defense has gone to great lengths to poo poo George's fighting.
    In this case, the agent testimony is that George tried to attack him.

    O'Mara: Telling Judge that there needs to be more known about the undercover agents in plainclothes who attacked George's underage friend, etc. George was arrested for battery on a police officer and the charge was dropped down. It went to pre-trial diversion. etc. No significant probative value because it is ancient in time.

    Judge: Mr O'Mara, Can you get to your point?

    O'Mara: My point is…

    Judge: I don't like these tit for tat arguments, if you do this, I am doing that.

    Mr Mantei you don't know if he is even available so if we need to we can take it up tomorrow.

    We will do our Jury Instructions tonight.

    I am going to tell our Jury we will do our closing arguments tomorrow.

    Both sides estimate: Three hours each.

    Are there going to be a lot a arguments in relation to our Jury Instructions? O'Mara has 3 main things he wants to argue to Judge. Maybe more after consultations with the other Defense team.

    Judge: Is basically trying to Decide when to get the case to the Jury. Trying for Thursday night or Friday morning.

    Let's bring the jury in and I will excuse them for the day and then we will do Donnelly. Go ahead, bring them in.

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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
    Jurors B51, E6 and E40 all made note to Root saying the main thing that matters in use of force case is perception of one using force.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
    Root testifies that taking into totality of incident he doesn't think #zimmerman had any other options than shooting #trayvonmartin

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
    Attorneys discussing objection at sidebar.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
    Prosecution objects as it seems O'Mara comes close to prohibition barring Root opinion on whether #zimmerman was justified on shooting

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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 26m
    Defense rests case in George #Zimmerman trial (from @AP) #trayvonmartin http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/con...tguid=MRtyqkM9

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 46m
    Judge sending the jury out while attys take up the issue further. Court is in recess for 15 min.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 53m
    Attys in long sidebar over defense objection to prosecution question to Pollock about marketing gym training he gave to #zimmerman

    Ron Vample Ron Vample ‏@rvample 1h
    Defense rests its case in George Zimmerman trial after calling 18 witnesses in less than a week. Zimmerman decided not to testify. (AP)
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
    State has called Adam Pollock, former #Zimmerman trainer as first rebuttal witness.

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    Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
    Judge Nelson just told jury they will be released until 10 a.m. tomorrow. Several nodded. Jury now out of courtroom.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 3m
    Jury sent home for night.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5m
    Judge about to release jury for the night. Then will take up hearing on possible sequestration rule violation by defense witness.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 6m
    Both sides estimating it will take three hours apiece to do closing arguments.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 8m
    State may or may not put on law enforcement agent involved in #Zimmerman 2005 arrest on Thursday.

    Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 14m
    Final state rebuttal witness is a state alcohol agent who in 2005 was confronted by #GeorgeZimmerman, who was arrested. Defense objects.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 16m
    State also says that it won't be calling its next rebuttal witness David Lee either. #Zimmerman

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 17m
    Judge rules that it is improper for state to call witness solely to impeach him. He will not be testifying anymore.

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    Donnelly ongoing now....

    bob kealing ‏@bobkealing 3m
    Mantei says witness Donnelly was in court for two days of testimony 6-25/26.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
    Mantei: Donnelly saw Surdyka say she thought Trayvon was screaming. Donnelly then went home and listened to 911 call and decided it was GZ
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
    State wants Donnelly testimony stricken from the record. Mantei also notes Olivia Bertalan watched at least one witness" testimony on TV

    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 6m
    State claims a discovery violation with Donnelly's testimony and would like his testimony stricken. #ZimmermanOn9

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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
    Mantei: "I think Mr. Donnelly's change in testimony is pretty radical and pretty evident."
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    Ryan Hughes - WFTV Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 1m
    State wants "severe sanction" because of witness mishap. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 2m
    Judge Debra Nelson listening attentively to Richard Mantei. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 5m
    Numerous family members from both families in the courtroom. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 8m
    NOW: @WFTV: State begins its motion to have John Donnelly's testimony thrown out. WATCH LIVE: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF . #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 10m
    NOW: Hearing about John Donnelly underway in courtroom. State wants his testimony thrown out. #ZIMMERMANon9.


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    Re: Donnelly

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 1m
    "Court is very concerned." - Judge Debra Nelson #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1m
    Prosecution is done. O'Mara is up to argue for the defense.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 1m
    Judge Nelson investigating potential violations involving 3 witnesses. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    OM listing the 3 witnesses that Donnelly heard when he was improperly in the courtroom. Claims he didn't hear anything of substance.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 5s
    Don West noticed John Donnelly in courtroom and asked him to leave, @Markomaralaw says. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    OM claims Donnelly did not change his testimony but added to it.
    What he heard did not have anything to do with what he eventually testified to.

    OM citing cases...

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    Stephanie Wash ‏@WashNews 2m
    O'Mara listing testimony of witnesses Donnelly was exposed to during his two days in courtroom. Says Donnelly left after AM break 2nd day.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    OM says the state has not cited any case law that states Donnelly's testimony should be removed.

    It was not defense knowledge or conspiring with Donnelly that this happened.

    Donnelly's testimony was limited. Don't think there has been any showing, cites cases, that his testimony should be excluded.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 2m
    Mark O'Mara says "no knowledge" John Donnelly was in courtroom. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    OM said he did not know Donnelly himself.


    Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
    O'Mara says defense later decided to call Donnelly, after finding out he had opinion on the 911 call screams. #ZimmermanTrial
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
    O'Mara says that Donnelly only was on courtroom to support Shellie Zimmerman. Defense atty Don West noticed his presence. He left.

    Judge making a remark about this to OM that you said Donnelly came to support Shelly. She's pointed out that he was seated in the GZ family row and had to be cleared by the defense to be there.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 1m
    "There's been no guilt shown, Mark O'Mara says. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    West up now saying how he recognized the man and told him he would have to leave. Donnelly apologized to West.

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    4:26 PM EDT

    Judge telling Jury she will have them come back at 10:00 AM Thursday morning.

    "With that, put your notepads down, follow Deputy Jarvis and have a good evening."


    Are we ready to proceed about motions for sanctions regarding Mr Donnelly?

    Yes, Your Honor.

    Mantei: Besides the change in his testimony, we discovered he was present in Court on two days, 25 and 26 of January sitting behind the Defendant's family.

    He heard in court Jane Sedyka testimony regarding her take on the screaming.

    He went home that weekend, and chose to listen to the tape.

    Other incidences:

    Also, regarding Mr Schumaker discussing with another witness and changing his work to fit Courtroom testimony. ( Schumaker is the maker of the animation that may be shown in Defense closing arguement. )

    Also, today Ms Bertalain having listened to some testimony on TV prior to her testimony in Court today.

    Mantei: Your Honor, we believe and renew our request as to witness Donnelly to order his testimony stricken.

    O'Mara is up and wants to add Shi Ping Bao to the list. (Tit for Tat)

    Judge: Court is very concerned over the defense witnesses who have violated the rule of sequestration. The Court is also investigating another possible witness and will tell name privately.

    Judge: This is relating to Mr Donnelly.

    O'Mara: Testimony Donnolley was exposed to on Day 1 was ?; Don O'Brien, HOA; 2 or 3 others. On Day 2, he was in courtroom for Ms Sydyka's testimony, West saw him in courtroom and told him to leave which he did at the break.
    O'Mara talking about case laws for his argument.
    Mr Donnelley was sitting in the row behind Shelley Zimmerman, she 'invited' him to sit there. Agrees there was a technical violation. Doesn't think any testimony he heard was molded into the testimony he himself gave in Court. Took it upon himself to listen to the tape.

    O'Mara - "Before you impose a sanction there needs to be a quantum of guilt."

    Judge - You said Ms Shelley Zimmerman wanted him to be in Court, but she was under the rules of sequestration also.
    To my right, 1st row buffer row, 2nd row Zimmerman family row, and rows after that are Media Rows.
    So, are you saying Mr Donnelley was seated in a Media Row?

    O'Mara: I don't know. I didn't even know at the time what he looked like. Mr West can say.

    Mr West: The issue that he was here, he was on Tuesday and part of Wednesday. I met him at the time of his deposition. When we were going out at morning recess, he spoke to me. I told him that he couldn't be here because of the rule of sequestration.
    No one with my office had specifically told him he couldn't be here. West is suggesting that the violation was inadvertent and the blame lies with myself or with my staff.
    Shelley Zimmerman had asked Mr Donnelley if he could be support for Mr Zimmerman.

    Mantei: It was known by the Defense that he had been here prior to what would be his changed testimony in Court.
    Points out Mr Crump was forced to be absent from the court and was never called.

    Judge: Reads Rule of Sequestration. Court is very very very very concerned. Can not making the finding that he had the knowledge. Can not make finding his testimony would have changed.
    Motion for sanctions is denied.

    Counsel please approach.

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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
    Judge asked how Shellie Zimmerman requested Donnelly presence when she was under sequestration by that time as well.

    [They can't get anything by the judge!]

    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 3m
    O'Mara says Shellie asked Donnelly stay to support #GeorgeZimmerman

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 3m
    RT @KBelichWFTV: Nelson questioning #ZimmermanOn9's wife (Shellie) presence in court since she was also under the same sequestration rule.

    Mantei back up...cites case, it was known that he was here, it was known that he had to leave, it was known that he added to his testimony; cites another case....with everything we've heard here from defense, it would certainly be within the court's prevue to take action to sanction.


    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
    O'Mara tells Judge Nelson that Donnelly was sitting in the second row. #ZimmermanOn9
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    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 4m
    "I didn't tell Mr. Donnelly...he could not be here." - Don West #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 1m
    NOW: Judge Debra Nelson: "The court is very, very, very, very concerned. And for those who want to know that's 4 verys." #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 1m
    NOW: "I cannot make the finding he had the knowledge." Motion denied. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Judge says she cannot make a finding that the witness was told and knew he could not be present. Also, she cannot make a finding that his testimony should be sanctioned. Motion by state is denied. Asks lawyers to approach.

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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5m
    Judge says she can't find Donnelly had knowledge or that his testimony would have changed. So she denies state's sanction motion.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 8m
    NOW: #GeorgeZimmerman's family members watch @SybrinaFulton as she stands up and leaves courtroom. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Sidebar is over,.....judge says next order of business is going over the jury instructions. It there are questions/changes needed we can take that up tomorrow.

    Instructions mentioned:

    For 2nd degree murder

    Possession of a firearm

    Manslaughter

    Aggravated assault

    Use of a firearm causing injury/death

    Plea of not guilty

    Plea of self defense...judge said remember there have been recent supreme court changes she has to consider

    Weighing the evidence

    Expert witnesses

    Defendent's statements

    State has made a motion for additional instruction and we will get into that tomorrow..

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 51s
    State Attorney Angela Corey and prosecution team available for interviews after verdict. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 2m
    Defense doesn't want lesser charges included. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 3m
    NOW: Lesser charges to be included: manslaughter and aggravated assult. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Judge we'll begin at 9:00am in the morning to go over these instructions.

    Closings will begin tomorrow afternoon with state. Jury will be called in at 1:00pm.

    Defense closing will be on Friday AM.

    Boy, she flew through that...at least not another long night.


    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 1m
    Court in recess until 9a Thursday. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV 2m
    BREAKING: Closing arguments to begin at 1p Thursday. #ZIMMERMANon9.

    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 38s
    Court recess until 9am. Will finish jury instruct. State will close for 2 hrs @ 1 Then def for 3hrs Fri. Folo by state 1hr rebuttal.
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