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  1. #31
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    This is an interesting link regarding Norman's accomplice...

    http://web.kitsapsun.com/news/2000/march/0328a1b.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owutatangledweb View Post
    The following links are from a Spokane Washington case that occurred in 1978 when the perpetrator was about 22 years old. He ultimately faces serving 33 years or 402 months with good behavior credits that were earned. He was originally sentenced to death and there were several appeals that got him down to the 402 months. I also posted a link to his picture and a picture of the kit sap county deputy he killed. I have tried to find relatives as he indicted to the parole board that he still had family in the area that he could live with. I came up with nothing in the area under his last name. He also indicated that he could work because he had inherited a business from his father. It is indicated in appeals papers that he is a JR. Only older person I could find by that name was a man in TEXAS by that name. I am interested in finding out if he had a sister who may have gone to Texas with her father. The age range for her would be close depending on the age difference with the perp and depending on if FLEK was really older than she claimed on the false IDs. I've not been able to dig into Washington State records to determine if there are any relatives out there. Like I said, the people search of that name came up with the older man as the most interesting possible link. But there were a few others by that name, maybe California if I recall correctly.

    http://www.theolympian.com/2011/03/1...ap-county.html

    http://www.kitsapsun.com/photos/2011...#axzz2cESvmdOI

    http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-cr...#axzz2cETGZPmx
    According to ancestry.com there is a Nedley G. Norman, Sr. who died in 1989 in Kitsap county, Washington. He was 57 y/o.

    Also, Jr. married HMP in 1977 in Nevada. She was from California. Just wondering what happened to her, I haven't come up with anything.

    Something kind of strange, on the findagrave.com site, Norman Sr.'s grave was posted by the same woman that also posted the grave of the man (stockbroker) who committed suicide back in '87 in the Tacoma area, Robert A. King. She states in her profile that she is researching her family. Probably nothing, but I never expected to find that connection, though I'm not sure exactly what the connection is

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...GRid=57423599&

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...GRid=58527454&

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    Quote Originally Posted by neesaki View Post
    According to ancestry.com there is a Nedley G. Norman, Sr. who died in 1989 in Kitsap county, Washington. He was 57 y/o.

    Also, Jr. married HMP in 1977 in Nevada. She was from California. Just wondering what happened to her, I haven't come up with anything.

    Something kind of strange, on the findagrave.com site, Norman Sr.'s grave was posted by the same woman that also posted the grave of the man (stockbroker) who committed suicide back in '87 in the Tacoma area, Robert A. King. She states in her profile that she is researching her family. Probably nothing, but I never expected to find that connection, though I'm not sure exactly what the connection is

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...GRid=57423599&

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...GRid=58527454&
    This is very interesting. Could be coincidence, but if this woman is researching her family, are King and Norman related? Jr.'s wife's connections with Nevada and California are interesting and maybe worth following up on. The woman might be the right age if speculation that LEK was older than stated are correct. the relation to a stockbroker is also interesting. I don't know anything about ancestry.com so I can't do anything there. Can you pm me the wife's name so I can follow up? Good work Neesaki!

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    Neesaki, as I said, I don't know anything about ansestry.com, but I clicked on your link and then on the link to the poster's profile. There is a message tab in there and there is a message posted by a King family member who indicates King had a brother and that this King's father died when he was very young and their stepfather adopted them. So, I guess it's possible one brother used another name? So, could the two grave markers be the brothers?

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    Neesaki, apparently this research has been started before in the original thread. There was a half-brother in the King family. Don't know the name or relationships.


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    Re Robert A King of Tacoma

    In Ancestry family tree pages he's listed under fact: no children, never seen that before, but maybe never paid attention. It seems his father, Donald Edwin Broughton, died young, 1904-1935. Robert had a brother by same father, Donald (Broughton) King 1931 – 1967. Later half brother was born.

    According to Ancestry 1940 census, the 2 boys were born in Utah, lived in Oakland, CA in 1935 then Washington.
    Last edited by branwynbreeze; 07-12-2013 at 02:25 PM.

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    Also, like Norman, sr. This King' s father was in the Air Force. I believe at one point stationed in San Antonio.

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    There are a slew of Lori Broughtons. In peoplefinders, and this is just an LOL Moment, there is a Hal F Broughton that shows no information. "Hal F" Broughton. Is this an alias for the half brother. Just weird, LOL.

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    interstate 20

    List of highways numbered 402 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    In Georgia, Interstate 20 runs from the Alabama border to the Savannah River, which the Georgia-South Carolina border straddles. It passes through the heavily congested Atlanta metropolitan area and exits the state at Augusta. The highway allows Georgians and various cargo to travel to various locations, including Columbia, South Carolina; Birmingham, Alabama; Jackson, Mississippi and Dallas, Texas. I-20 has the unsigned state highway designation of State Route 402.

    from Wikipedia:Interstate 20 in Georgia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    also for those thinking she could be from Canada:
    http://www.thekingshighway.ca/Highway402.htm
    Last edited by KateB; 04-03-2015 at 12:25 AM. Reason: repair url tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerStory View Post
    This is an interesting link regarding Norman's accomplice...

    http://web.kitsapsun.com/news/2000/march/0328a1b.html
    Wow, the accomplice had an IDAHO Driver's License with an assumed name???

    I know that we all want to see a pattern, desperately want to see a pattern, but that's intriguing. Wonder what the street address was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owutatangledweb View Post
    Neesaki, apparently this research has been started before in the original thread. There was a half-brother in the King family. Don't know the name or relationships.


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    Re Robert A King of Tacoma

    In Ancestry family tree pages he's listed under fact: no children, never seen that before, but maybe never paid attention. It seems his father, Donald Edwin Broughton, died young, 1904-1935. Robert had a brother by same father, Donald (Broughton) King 1931 1967. Later half brother was born.

    According to Ancestry 1940 census, the 2 boys were born in Utah, lived in Oakland, CA in 1935 then Washington.
    Last edited by branwynbreeze; 07-12-2013 at 02:25 PM.
    2 screen caps from Ancestry page. Not sure how accurate it is, but the odd thing says Robert had no children, but then shows no spouse, but looks like he had a female child:
    Attached Images Attached Images


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    New to WS.

    It hasn't been mentioned but the hatch marks under the 402 indicate to me that she counted how many times 40 was divisible by 12 (12 months/year). She indicates 3 times then a period. So I do believe the number 402 is a number of months, although whether it is 402 or 40 2 is not clear. The 2 does look like her other 2's written below. However, has anyone noticed she used a symbol that looks very similar directly after "Southwestern Bell of Greater Dallas". Is it possible she used this symbol for and "&" or "+" as well as a "2"?

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    Just an FYI regarding Find A Grave mentioned ^^

    Probably chalk that up to coincidence.

    It is a fairly organized group of people that do this on a volunteer basis. May start with their family, then catch the genealogy volunteer bug, and get involved on a larger scale.

    An example would be, ie someone who documented a grave in cemetery X for their family, then later catalogs the rest of that cemetery. Some really dedicated folks will work on many cemeteries in their geo location.

    They have a forum
    http://www.findagraveforums.com/ubbthreads.php

    HTH
    just speculating.......

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    My first thought on the number 402 was to divide it by 12 months. I know this has been done to some extent. Next I googled 33.5 year sentence which gave me 8,750,000 returns. Maybe if a group of us looked through these returns we could find some more clues.
    There is no statute of limitation on murder.

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    402 Fire 425 Suspicious Circumstances
    402A Arson 425A Suspicious Persons
    402Z Attempt Arson 425B Suspicious Vehicle

    http://www.bearcat1.com/radionv.htm
    Media thread for Abby and Libby.


    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...5#post13163455

    WebSleuths Lingo thread.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...bsleuths-Lingo

    Unless I provide a link, every one of my posts are to be considered rumor, Speculation, or simply MY OWN OPINION.

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    For most of my life - I'm 53 - the police used 10 codes - only in the last few years have they moved toward the other style. For instance, my screen name is actually 10 code for I'm 10-96 - which is a mental subject. The fact that I have a mental illness has little impact on my life as long as I regularly take my meds an see the doc once a month.z

    In Texas the code 402 means failure to yield right-of-way to pedestrian in crosswalk.
    In California the code is lengthy and can be read here http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/1/10/s402
    In Nevada 402 is a fire.

    Other states have other meanings and can be found here

    https://www.google.com/search?q=poli...+code&safe=off

    I hope my links work correctly~
    There is no statute of limitation on murder.

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