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    I just checked the California Corporations site and found that Visages has been called Visages since at least 1981 - December 1981 is when it was incorporated under the name Visages RPS Inc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyssey View Post
    I just checked the California Corporations site and found that Visages has been called Visages since at least 1981 - December 1981 is when it was incorporated under the name Visages RPS Inc.
    i have talked with the owner of Visages, shes on FB. She has already been interviewed by law enforcement, and doesn't remember FLEK

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    New here - please be gentle

    Just a thought: I'm of the opinion that the notes page is part of a scratch pad and little if anything there is relevant to solving the mystery... But if she were taking notes on the phone couldn't the word "visages" if pronounced as in French, "vee-zaj" be easily mistaken for "these eyes?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom2fourDs View Post
    New here - please be gentle

    Just a thought: I'm of the opinion that the notes page is part of a scratch pad and little if anything there is relevant to solving the mystery... But if she were taking notes on the phone couldn't the word "visages" if pronounced as in French, "vee-zaj" be easily mistaken for "these eyes?"
    Yes, that was already discussed. So much was discussed about the note pad that it's hard to remember or re-read all the posts. But yes... that was already talked about.

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    that made me think of that movie with the saved by the bell actress's character in the Showgirls ..she was pronouncing a designer's name wrong the whole time, and it was kind of comical...“Thanks, I bought it at Ver-sayce” when complimented on her Versace dress. wonder if she was trying to remember the correct way to pronounce the word so she wouldn't appear backwards. LA is a harsh place, probably hard to be there in the 80s!

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    Yes (I'm French) Marysa Maslansky who owned Visages was raised in France so probably she pronounced it the French way, Lori might have received the appointment for the shoot by phone and mistook it for "These Eyes".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meyahna View Post
    Yes (I'm French) Marysa Maslansky who owned Visages was raised in France so probably she pronounced it the French way, Lori might have received the appointment for the shoot by phone and mistook it for "These Eyes".
    Just clued into what you are referencing. I live in a French-Bilingual country, we don't pronounce the anglophone word Visage as 'vizij'. Makes sense what you're saying.

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    My first post and apologies if repeating previous thoughts.

    Two things stand out to me about "These Eyes". Firstly, it is a very specific phrase and not one which would ordinarily be used except where it has a clear meaning. I am afraid I do not support ideas that it could be a mistranscription/hearing of something like Visage. That seems too different and Occams Razor says go for the simple explanation - that it is written as intended. Secondly, as noted elsewhere, the writing is very different (especially the 'e's) to the other notes - although the s seems similar. This suggests to me that it is either written at a different time (probably years different) or by another hand. I prefer the former.

    The timeline for the notes page is very unclear. It seems certain that it dates to the 80s due to the history of Ben Perkins. I fail to see how the Jennifer Perkins reference can be before '87 given her history. Finally, I note the repeated suggestions that LEK was older than claimed and had a history of dancing in clubs.

    Putting this together the simplest explanation I can see for the 'These Eyes' note is that it refers to a booking, most probably for a video or photo shoot related to a recording of the song of that name. The only possibility that this identifies immediately dates to 1981, when the song was released as a single by Natalie Cole. I do not know whether a video was made, but there was certainly a recorded performance (with backing dancers) on the Solid Gold syndicated TV show that year. Of course, there may have been other, less well known cover versions in the 80's which also had shoots. And the contact lens campaign is also possible.

    I do not see where this leads but perhaps it will spark thoughts in others.

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    I'm very confused by this thread. I think I might be missing something. Could someone please explain the connection to FLEK? Was there something in her belongings related to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by j123 View Post
    I'm very confused by this thread. I think I might be missing something. Could someone please explain the connection to FLEK? Was there something in her belongings related to this?
    Yes J123,
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...NO-DISCUSSION*

    "These Eyes" along with a couple more info was written on one of the pages of paper that was discovered in FLEK's lock box after her death. People are wondering what the significance of this info is, if it's significant at all.

    "These Eyes" is written at the top of a ruled sheet of paper (so it appears) and then it seems as if the sheet of paper was written on from the bottom up to the top of the paper. Who does that? Seems odd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alb1on View Post
    My first post and apologies if repeating previous thoughts.

    Two things stand out to me about "These Eyes". Firstly, it is a very specific phrase and not one which would ordinarily be used except where it has a clear meaning. I am afraid I do not support ideas that it could be a mistranscription/hearing of something like Visage. That seems too different and Occams Razor says go for the simple explanation - that it is written as intended. Secondly, as noted elsewhere, the writing is very different (especially the 'e's) to the other notes - although the s seems similar. This suggests to me that it is either written at a different time (probably years different) or by another hand. I prefer the former.

    The timeline for the notes page is very unclear. It seems certain that it dates to the 80s due to the history of Ben Perkins. I fail to see how the Jennifer Perkins reference can be before '87 given her history. Finally, I note the repeated suggestions that LEK was older than claimed and had a history of dancing in clubs.

    Putting this together the simplest explanation I can see for the 'These Eyes' note is that it refers to a booking, most probably for a video or photo shoot related to a recording of the song of that name. The only possibility that this identifies immediately dates to 1981, when the song was released as a single by Natalie Cole. I do not know whether a video was made, but there was certainly a recorded performance (with backing dancers) on the Solid Gold syndicated TV show that year. Of course, there may have been other, less well known cover versions in the 80's which also had shoots. And the contact lens campaign is also possible.

    I do not see where this leads but perhaps it will spark thoughts in others.
    I think you are correct about 'These Eyes' possibly being for a video booking and having been written at a different time period from the rest of some of the info on the sheet of paper. That would also makes sense with the other info if the notes beside it were about attending a make-up session for whatever reason.
    However, if FLEK were in "hiding", I don't think she would be in any of the photographs, videos, or t.v. shows; perhaps she was interested in being behind the scenes as her resume suggests. Her resume (depending on how much truth is there) states that she does photography. Again, we have no paper trail or proof of her work and photography. I find this strange because all photography maintain a portfolio, this is the proof of their work and a secondary type of resume.

    These Eyes is listed in the 'Who's Who in (music) video production'. (I can provide a link if necessary). It's on google.

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    I made a side-by-side comparison of FLEK and the model from the ad

    flek.jpg

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    Okay, so I did a little research about Natalie Cole's "These Eyes." Forgive me if this is going a bit out there, but I just wanted to share what I learned in case anyone else is, like me, prone to these sorts of flights of fancy

    The song was released as a single, which came with its own artwork

    nataliecole-theseeyes.jpg

    The album it came from is called Happy Love. This is its artwork

    115407824.jpg

    As you can see, the same outfit is worn in both of them, and so I think it's reasonable to assume that both photographs are from the same photoshoot.

    Discogs has the album credits listed here: http://www.discogs.com/Natalie-Cole-...elease/5363558

    Art Direction, Photography By – Glen Christensen
    So, on the off chance that this is actually the "These Eyes" FLEK wrote about, perhaps she worked for/with Glen Christensen?

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    Actually the contact lens model has some similar features of FLEK. Possible the pic was " flipped?"


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    flek2.jpg
    flek3.jpg
    flek4.jpg

    I do see a resemblance, but the more I look, the less and less likely it seems that there's any possibility these are the same woman.

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