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    Quote Originally Posted by otto View Post
    Thank you for finding that. That's exactly what I was referring to. Knox was also given an apartment for the duration of her work commitment. She simply decided to not go to work after one or two days, giving the excuse that she'd had a stomach flu before she started the job, but she stayed in the apartment for the entire work commitment time period. At the end of her diary entry about blowing off her job and upsetting her uncle, didn't she write "ciao sucker"?

    That happened a couple of weeks before she was arrested for the murder of Meredith. She appears to take everyone and everything for granted. It's like she thinks that she can walk all over people without consequence.

    BBM: Good point ... BUT her "luck" is running out ...

    The re-trial of the Appeals will be next month, IIRC ... so it is going to get very interesting ...

    JMO but she will fight extradition back to Italy -- but Sollecito will have to go back to Italy ...

    Again, JMO but if Sollecito goes back for the trial and Knox does not, I "think" he will "roll over" on Knox "big time" ... Raf is NOT going to go down alone ... NOT this time ! He is NOT going to do time if she is not ... afterall, Knox is the "link" between him and Meredith ...

    Ah, it will give a new meaning to Raf's "Honor Bound" ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    BBM: Good point ... BUT her "luck" is running out ...

    The re-trial of the Appeals will be next month, IIRC ... so it is going to get very interesting ...

    JMO but she will fight extradition back to Italy -- but Sollecito will have to go back to Italy ...

    Again, JMO but if Sollecito goes back for the trial and Knox does not, I "think" he will "roll over" on Knox "big time" ... Raf is NOT going to go down alone ... NOT this time ! He is NOT going to do time if she is not ... afterall, Knox is the "link" between him and Meredith ...

    Ah, it will give a new meaning to Raf's "Honor Bound" ...

    It will be interesting to see how it plays out. If neither of them shows up for the trial, it suggests to me that they're worried about a conviction ... and innocent people should be concerned with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otto View Post
    It will be interesting to see how it plays out. If neither of them shows up for the trial, it suggests to me that they're worried about a conviction ... and innocent people should be concerned with that.
    I'm not familiar with the specific laws - can Sollecito refuse to show up for the trial?

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    My local news says she never planned to attend the re-trial. If she doesn't have to, it doesn't seem like he should have to, either. I can't blame them for not wanting to return; I wouldn't, regardless of whether I was guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rashomon View Post
    I'm not familiar with the specific laws - can Sollecito refuse to show up for the trial?
    I don't know the law either, but I think that both of them can choose to not attend the trial. If the conviction is affirmed, I'm pretty sure that the current laws will require that they are extradited.

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    Just saw this on the MSN Homepage:

    Knox will not return to Italy for re-trial :

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...r-retrial?lite



    CNN covering story also :

    Family: Amanda Knox won't return to Italy for new trial

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/24/world/...html?hpt=hp_t2


    David Marriott said Knox had never agreed to attend, and there's "no requirement she be there." Still, there remains the possibility that Italy could request her extradition from the United States.


    David Marriott is NOT a lawyer -- he is her PR rep

    So ... if you are "innocent" why do you need a PR rep ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    So ... if you are "innocent" why do you need a PR rep ?

    Early in November 2007 the father of Amanda Knox called Gogerty Marriott to ask for assistance with the barrage of media calls the family was getting from around the world. His daughter, Amanda, had been arrested and imprisoned in Perugia, Italy for the murder of her British flat mate, Meredith Kercher.

    From that day forward, there has been continuous intense pressure from national and international media to talk with members of the family about their daughter. Gogerty Marriott has sought to relieve as much of the media pressure from the family’s shoulders as possible. At the same time we balanced the family’s need to have the truth told about their daughter’s innocence with that of the legal constraints of her trial and now her appeal. All the media accounts and leaks of inaccurate information occurred within the framework of a markedly different legal system than that in the United States. At the same time, we were helping the family get the truth out about their daughter, we also tried to help them maintain some sense of normalcy in their lives.

    http://www.gogertymarriott.com/showcase/amanda_knox/
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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    Just saw this on the MSN Homepage:

    Knox will not return to Italy for re-trial :

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...r-retrial?lite



    CNN covering story also :

    Family: Amanda Knox won't return to Italy for new trial

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/24/world/...html?hpt=hp_t2


    David Marriott said Knox had never agreed to attend, and there's "no requirement she be there." Still, there remains the possibility that Italy could request her extradition from the United States.


    David Marriott is NOT a lawyer -- he is her PR rep

    So ... if you are "innocent" why do you need a PR rep ?

    I think that anyone that has followed the case knows that the PR Machine was used for propaganda purposes. Marriott's job was to paint Knox as a victim of the Italian justice system and to slander Italian professionals for doing their jobs when doing their jobs resulted in evidence against Knox.

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    If Knox's conviction is affirmed and the US does not honor treaties and extradite her, she should plan on a life within the borders of the US. The minute she steps into another country, she will be arrested - just like Joran van der Sloot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otto View Post
    I think that anyone that has followed the case knows that the PR Machine was used for propaganda purposes. Marriott's job was to paint Knox as a victim of the Italian justice system and to slander Italian professionals for doing their jobs when doing their jobs resulted in evidence against Knox.

    BBM: Exactly ! IF you are "innocent" you do NOT need a PR "machine" IMO...


    AND ... the latest news is that Knox's Italian defense attorneys -- Luciano Ghirga and Carlo Dalla Vedova -- went to Seattle to discuss the upcoming retrial of the Appeal with Knox.

    Of course, this is normal for your attorney to discuss any upcoming legal proceedings with you ... but it is interesting that they flew from Perugia, Italy to Seattle ...

    Hmmm ... IF Knox is innocent, why didn't she go to Italy and meet with her attorneys there ? Because she KNOWS what the outcome is going to be ...

    The link about the Perugian attorneys' visit to Seattle is in Italian but was translated by the good people at True Justice for Meredith Kercher [not sure if that site can be linked].

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    Quote Originally Posted by rashomon View Post
    From the round robin email written by Amanda Knox that she sent to family and friends on 4th Nov 2007:
    http://adeathinperugia.wordpress.com...-her-presence/
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    But in her book, AK says that the doors were closed (which would imply that Laura's door was closed, not open).
    Now one could argue that Knox may have mixed things up in the course of the time that has elapsed; that she is not expected to have a photographic memory etc.
    Counter argument:
    In Knox's story, it is a crucial issue whether the doors to the rooms were open or closed.
    Writing a book gives the writer ample time to thoroughly look up sources and (re)check past statements.
    Therefore Knox could easily have looked up what she had written in that Nov 7/2007 email.
    But she obviously did not do this. Why?
    Maybe at the time when she wrote her book, she thought it would not be necessary anymore because she had been acquitted ...?
    I think she just mistakenly wrote 'open' instead of 'closed' in the email because she goes on to say that Filomena's door was also closed, which implies that the previous person referred to (Laura) also had their door closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otto View Post
    If Knox's conviction is affirmed and the US does not honor treaties and extradite her, she should plan on a life within the borders of the US. The minute she steps into another country, she will be arrested - just like Joran van der Sloot.
    would it be common or expected that the U.S. would not extradite her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    BBM: Exactly ! IF you are "innocent" you do NOT need a PR "machine" IMO...


    AND ... the latest news is that Knox's Italian defense attorneys -- Luciano Ghirga and Carlo Dalla Vedova -- went to Seattle to discuss the upcoming retrial of the Appeal with Knox.

    Of course, this is normal for your attorney to discuss any upcoming legal proceedings with you ... but it is interesting that they flew from Perugia, Italy to Seattle ...

    Hmmm ... IF Knox is innocent, why didn't she go to Italy and meet with her attorneys there ? Because she KNOWS what the outcome is going to be ...

    The link about the Perugian attorneys' visit to Seattle is in Italian but was translated by the good people at True Justice for Meredith Kercher [not sure if that site can be linked].

    I just read a few of the articles and it seems that Knox does not understand law that permits the prosecution to appeal a verdict. Knox was found guilty, she appealed, that appeal set her free, that decision was appealed and now we're back to the stage where her conviction stands and she/Raffaele will again appeal the conviction.

    "Ghirga said that Knox was not trying to run away from anything but that she did not understand why a retrial was necessary."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...97N08W20130824

    If Knox were to drive approximately 100 miles North from Seattle, she would be in a country where the prosecution can appeal a verdict. It surprises me that she finds the laws 100 miles away so difficult to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyL View Post
    would it be common or expected that the U.S. would not extradite her?
    "Ms. Knox's own Italian lawyer has acknowledged that her appellate "acquittal" wouldn't constitute double jeopardy under Italian law since it wasn't a final judgment—it was subject to further appeal, which has now resulted in a reversal of the acquittal. This argument will probably carry considerable weight with U.S. authorities, likely yielding the conclusion that her extradition wouldn't violate the treaty. Still, a sympathetic U.S. State Department or judge might find that her appellate acquittal was final enough to preclude extradition on double-jeopardy grounds."

    Wall Street Journal

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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    IF you are "innocent" you do NOT need a PR "machine" IMO...
    as has been stated before, elizabeth smart, jaycee dugard, and michelle knight, amanda berry and gina de jesus have all/are using the services of PR firms to assist with various situations (interviews, public announcements, etc)... are you suggesting these woman are guilty of something criminal?
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