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    Canada - Sammy Yatim, 18, fatally shot by Toronto LE, 27 July 2013

    18 year old was shot dead aboard a streetcar in July.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...r-charged.html

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    I'm happy with the charge, Sammy didn't need to die, he needed help. If this cop is convicted, I'll be shocked.

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    Yatim, 18, was shot and killed in the early morning hours of July 27 during a standoff with police. Local surveillance video and cellphone images taken by passersby showed Yatim, who was holding a knife, pacing back and forth on the empty streetcar as police shout, “Drop the knife.” Then, over the course of 13 seconds, nine shots ring out. A Taser was also used during the incident.


    Read more:*http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/toronto...#ixzz2cQxfPyA1
    Last edited by tarabull; 08-19-2013 at 12:52 PM.

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    What happened in the words of a witness

    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013...witnesses.html

    (ETA: within one minute of police arriving Sammy was dead. Is this really the only thread on this story...???)

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    Tara..thanks so much for starting this thread! I was hoping someone would do it, as I don't know how. Also I agree with your saying of a world without dogs.

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    I'm glad to hear that murder charges have been laid. There was no need for a police officer to kill this young man.

    Q: How do you get a knife from a teenage male who is confined to a bus.

    A: Wait three hours. Offer fries and pepsi in exchange for the knife.

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    Officer charged in Sammy Yatim shooting to surrender today

    Const. James Forcillo, 30, to face 2nd-degree murder

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...der-court.html

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    I too am pleased with the outcome so far. Sammy needed help, one of our boys in Toronto needed HELP! Not killed. It saddens me greatly and I am even more saddened that our Police would do this to him. He was on a streetcar, pedestrians removed therefore he was not going to harm anyone. He freaked out. It happens.
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    Sammy Yatim streetcar shooting officer appears in court

    Lawyer says 2nd-degree murder charge against Const. James Forcillo 'a life-changing incident'

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...der-court.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarabull View Post
    Sammy Yatim streetcar shooting officer appears in court

    Lawyer says 2nd-degree murder charge against Const. James Forcillo 'a life-changing incident'

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...der-court.html
    "Life-changing incident???" It was the ultimate life-changing incident for Sammy, he has no life anymore.


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    I do think this is the right charge. I can't help but wonder what the police officer was thinking - why he did this.

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    8 out of 9 bullets entered his body.

    http://www.torontosun.com/2013/08/22...m-hit-the-teen

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    He was told to drop the knife and did not. He was told to stop moving forward (toward the door) and then moved forward. A person with a knife can move 21 feet forward in less than 2 sec and a knife will puncture a bullet proof vest easily. I don't think the officer was wrong to fear for his life and I don't think he was wrong to fire the first batch of shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airplanelamp View Post
    He was told to drop the knife and did not. He was told to stop moving forward (toward the door) and then moved forward. A person with a knife can move 21 feet forward in less than 2 sec and a knife will puncture a bullet proof vest easily. I don't think the officer was wrong to fear for his life and I don't think he was wrong to fire the first batch of shots.
    But what about the second batch of bullets? I am curious about what the officers around the scene thought about this.

    Mental health issues will, unfortunately, be dealt with in a life-threatening way on occasion. Sometimes it can't be avoided. I am having trouble believing that this is one of them. I am comfortable waiting for a proper review to find out all of the facts though.
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    I thought this was an interesting read; giving some reason as to why only one charge was laid, when the Crown generally includes less serious offences with the serious offence charge:

    Compromise verdicts are a reality of jury trials in Canada, where 12 people must come to a unanimous decision to find guilt of anything. In fact, both the Crown and the defence often pursue compromise verdicts.

    When it charges someone, the Crown often includes charges of less serious offences. It does this to guard against juries not being able to come to unanimous verdicts of guilt on charges with more serious penalties.


    http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/...fence_bar.html

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